https://old.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/17kqk6m/bidens_gaza_stance_spurs_stunning_drop_in_arab
Wrong link because I'm an idiot. Right link here
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/17ktpzb/st_pauli_fans_banner_responding_to_international
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I would have sympathy if they hadn't been told this by everyone
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I was never super pro Israel or Zionist but they won me over to the argument that anti Zionism (anti Israel) is antisemitism.
Israel was devised as a containment/preserve for the Jews
the Jews aren't safe in pretty much any country anymore because those countries did really bad shit to them
(for no reason, if you're a nonchud)
Israelis are facing resistance and cracking down on it
they've actually been pretty tame and restrained compared to every other country in Europe, North America, Asia, etc
So to deny the existence of Israel you are
invalidating the one territorial claim the Jews can be secure living in
holding Israelis to a standard much higher than literally any other country that has ever existed
All to appease a group of rabidly antisemite Arabs who have rejected every deal offered to them, responded to every peace with violence, and could live in any of the surrounding countries and be mostly fine, just like the Kurds.
And if your argument is “but they were there first” then give me my white fricking Europe you nazi and give NA back to the heyahoyas while you're at it.
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The same people that advocate abolishing Israel also want Ukraine to sacrifice territory for peace to Russia(ethnic Russians only live in those areas due to settler colonialism) because a total Ukrainian victory is unfeasible.
They're also the same people that call the Iraq War the worst decision of the 21st century despite Saddam Hussein starting two wars which killed a million people, genociding the kurds, and using chemical weapons.
Why give Palestine the exception that you refuse Ukraine and why is Israel a more intolerable state to preserve than Saddam Hussein's Iraq because abolishing Israel is clearly not materially feasible except to fevered minds.
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Not necessarily, the far left is split over Ukraine just as the far right is as well.
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You had me until the ukraine thing. I think wingcucks are much more split on this one
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The most moderate form of anti-zionism wants to make Israel a binational state, which isn't necessarily antisemitic, though dangerously naive.
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