Every few months I start obsessively reading Vampire: the Masquerade sourcebooks. Now you get to partake in my autism!
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If you want more info on any given clan I am more than happy to about them.
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Every few months I start obsessively reading Vampire: the Masquerade sourcebooks. Now you get to partake in my autism!
Are you?
If you want more info on any given clan I am more than happy to about them.
!poll_voters answer please
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This conversation is making me feel like a massive dork.
That said, if you have Vicissitude, you aren't a real Tzimisce. You're just a diseased blood bag.
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SO TRUE
Ignore the fact that our founder uses it.
Those Sabbat neonates are ruining our reputation! Now if you'll excuse me, I need to sacrifice 10 more virgins to Kupala to meet my daily quota.
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Tzimisce was diseased too. Why else did it wind up in the New York sewers?
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Samiel put him down there after his butt-kicking of epic proportions.
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You can't trust anything a Salubri infernalist says.
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You know what's funny? The Salubri go on and on about how evil the Tremere are and how their genocide was a terrible thing. In the appendix of V20 Dark Ages, there's a few pages on the "what-if" scenario if the Salubri managed to maintain considerable numbers into the modern day. The end result? The Salubri lead the Sabbat, and the Malkavians defect from the Camarilla to join them.
I found this very surprising, not because the Salubri lead the Sabbat, but because the Malkavians leave the Camarilla. I personally believe that were the Ventrue to fall or defect, the Malkavians would take leadership of the Camarilla.
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I haven't read very much of the v20 stuff but that sounds reasonably plausible. They never were much into hiding what they were before the killings and then the inquisition. And they'd definitely see themselves as righteous. I'd need to hear the justification for the Malkavians leaving though. They're pretty big heat magnets with regards to hunters and unless the Sabbat is dominant, it doesn't make a lot of sense for them. Maybe the Gangrel but not the Malkavians.
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I think it's just because the Malkavians and Salubri are friends, and the Malkavians still hate the Ventrue for ditching them after Rome fell. My headcanon is that the Malkavians are in the Camarilla specifically so that they can steal it from the Ventrue once they get a chance.
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I really know very little about the Malkavians in comparison to the other clans. I've been playing for years and I have never once had a good idea for a Malkavian. Every time I've tried the character ends up as another clan instead.
Personally, I don't think that it ever even gets to the Ventrue losing control of the Camarilla. The Final Nights stuff at the end of 3rd edition ensures that both sects will start to crumble because every member of the Camarilla and the Sabbat will know that they have both been lied to the entire time. The Sabbat crumbles faster because a big portion of their identity is tied up in the idea that the elders were going to rise up and eat them all and then one was killed and basically nothing happened. But the Camarilla crumbles too as they discover that the elders and therefore, Caine is real and that all the Camarilla elders knew the whole time. And no matter how hard they try, they can't cover up the death of Ravnos. It will definitely get out eventually.
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