is nixed as an army, but some believe GW is in the right. Scuffles ensue
TL;DR: Beastmen players get fukt again, 3 decades of suffering.
GW has just announced that a slew of models are getting nixed for AOS 4th ed. The three notable groups getting dropped is a wizard Stormcast thing (IDGAF about sigmarines, look it up yourself), savage orcs, and Beasts of Chaos. BoC getting dropped like this is particularly brutal, as this army has been the whipping boy for 30+ years both in fluff and in the rules. The writing has been on the wall for a while as despite 3rd edition being about the age of the beast, they got next to nothing.
Most are decrying the removal of several factions from the game as obviously scummy, but there are those who disagree. Using such arguments as "Guys, it's hard to write rules for an army so they had no choice" 
, "GW didn't make any new models, there was nothing else they could do" 
, and "LMAO beastcucks go play The Old World" 
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Needless to say, plenty of bickering in the warhammer subreddits. Some foolishly believe they can convince GW this is an r-slured move and are encouraging redditors to email GW about how disappointed they are. I encourage all BoC players to get started on rebasing. Should have done that already considering ToW and Fantasy (any edition) are better games. Probably shouldn't have even left square bases to begin with.
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They aren't getting removed.
Your models will still have rules for years.
You don't have to start over. Those models don't disappear or stop working.
The only thing to be disappointed about is that there's not going to be anything new for them in terms of Age of Sigmar.
They're doing the right thing by telling you now that they won't be fully supported after 2025
They aren't getting removed.
They literally are getting removed as a faction.
Your models will still have rules for years.
You mean year.
You don't have to start over. Those models don't disappear or stop working.
You do if BoC is your only or main faction.
The only thing to be disappointed about is that there's not going to be anything new for them in terms of Age of Sigmar.
No. This is disingenuous. New PDF rules tend to be watered down and not as exciting. The army is as good as dead for fourth unless you want to play a bare-bones faction that probably won't be any fun.
They're doing the right thing by telling you now that they won't be fully supported after 2025
They are only doing the right thing in the context that they are squatting the army anyway. They aren't doing the right thing by squatting the army in the first place.
Side note: if you're argument is "well they are still used in Old World blah blah blah" this is an AoS and that's not relevant to most of the player base here.
I lost 3/4 of my army, but if it make the game better I'm good with it. Stop crying.
They are going to have legends rules for the time being.
Friendly games can still have them .... I dont get the backlash , maybe its cause i have very few units ( that i dont even play ) affected
oh boo-fricking-hoo to all you Stormcast, you've still almost twice as many options in just Footlords alone. so what you get a well deserved culling of your overbloated roster, you got plenty of other shiny golden butt Einherjar lookalikes that no one can tell apart from each other anyway, it's nothing compared to the Beast Players losing their ENTIRE GODDARN CODEX!
Everyone is acting like those armies are forbidden from being played now. They are supported through legends, rules that are allowed everywhere but competitive tournaments. With the stats from a little while ago, that not even 10% of the playerbase attend any tournament through their hobby lifetime, let alone one that ban legends content this all seems like a crazy overreaction.
So if the community could just stop being babies about all this and put out actually interesting posts, I would really appreciate it.
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I prefer fantasy to scifi and really wanted to get into AoS over 40k, but barely anyone near me plays AoS (while having 40k tourneys every week)
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I'm still not sure how 40k continues to dominate tables, game sucks to play. Granted, I'm bitter due to being an admech player.
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Admech players are literally the vegans of tabletop games.
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Yeah, I know. I'm not even mad we suck, they are just boring to play. It's a bit frustrating when Mechanicum in 30k is really mechanically interesting
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Mech in 30k is one of the most pointlessly stupid books GW has ever written.
There are like 5 appendices for submechanics that only apply to units you're never going to use and don't do anything even if you dig into them.
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No clue what you're on about, book works well as long as your list has a central focus your tech priests can specialize themselves around. From my games I've found nearly every unit is usable and interesting in their own right (the vultarax being the notable exception, frickin thing sucks).
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The only unit in the entire list that can actually kill its own points back is massed Myrmidons. Everything else just trades down or gets vaporized by massed Lascannons and Culverins.
Automata are just worse than Dreads body for body and worse than HSS point for point.
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That's an issue with the game, not the mechanicoom specifically. Everything dies to culverin and lascannon HSS
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Cool minis, thats it. People don't want to play a better board tabletop with boring minis. Probably also brand recognition like how everyone plays D&D despite the fact they'd almost certainly be happier playing one built around actual roleplaying instead of dungeoncrawling.
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D&D 5e isn't even built around dungeoncrawling, it's built around nothing.
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People in DnD unironically get mad that dungeoncrawling has traps and shit.
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IT'S FRICKING ASTONISHING HOW FOID BRAINED THE AVERAGE DND CHUD IS "HEH ALL MAKE A SUPER POWERFUL CHARACTER AND COMPLAIN IF COMBAT ISN'T HAPPENING EVERY 5 MINUYES BUT I'LL SIMULTANEOUSLY AVOID COMBAT AT ALL COST." christ...
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So many min-maxed combat-oriented PCs just get their buttholes reamed in any dungeon worth a darn by all the saves and skillchecks they need to do.
If you truly get bored, you can just send one of the many ghosts with the ability to possess said PC after a DC13 wisdom save that they can't possibly pass because its a dumpstat for them to PK the player party or have the party PK the minmaxer.
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THAT HAPPENED IN ONE OF THE BEST GAMES OF 5E I PLAYED, SHAME HALF OF THE CHUDS DIDN'T LEARN FROM THAT experience...
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It's pure inertia from being the first. Same as D&D.
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It wasn't the first cute twink
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At one point it was a decent game, and 10th isn't too bad. It's not the dark age of 7th on anymore.
The lore is also good and gets people.
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DAWN OF WAR AND SPACE MARINES ALL THE VIDYA ASSOCIATED WITH THE BRAND IS WHY IT'S AS POPULAR AS IT is...
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Big crypto-fascist.
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It just has that aura around it.
I do think the lore/universe helps massively as well, no other table top game has me nearly as invested in the lore as 40k does
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Play 7th Edition WHFB coward
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