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EFFORTPOST [The Forge] Why the hate? | Tabletop Roleplaying Open | RPGnet Forums. Or "911roofer what the frick is the Forge and why are you telling me about this?"

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads%2Fthe-forge-why-the-hate.130949%2F

The forge was an influential rpg forum run by a weirdo pervert named Ron Edwards. He was a pretentious twat who said that vampire the masquarade caused brain damage.

https://lumpley.com/index.php/anyway/marginalia/3777

Originally it was started in 1999 as Hephaestus's forge.

https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ppmt00/tabletop_rpgs_the_fall_of_the_forge_how_a/

They discussed the design and making of tabletop rpgs and developed the gns theory or big model theory .

It's outlined here

https://www.indie-rpgs.com/_articles/system_does_matter.html

Forgeworld produced some great games like Apocalypse world and Dogs in the Vineyard which is Mormons fighting :!marseytrain: demons who want to molest children

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/binarydoubts/dogs-in-the-vineyard/

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/professorprof/dogs-in-the-vineyard/

but also bullshit like Bliss Stage which was made for :!marseytrain: demons who want to molest children

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/purplexvi/bliss-stage/

https://systemmasterypodcast.com/2019/04/08/bliss-stage-system-mastery-145/

It was essentially Neon Genesis Evangelion but not the Neon Genesis Evangelion of the anime or manga adaptions but the Neon Genesis Evangelion of the pornographic doujins found at every Japanese con.

https://old.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/353js6/bliss_stage/

That is not a link for those. Look up your own "Shinji chad " or "Shinji cuck" porn ya sick frick.

The Forge defined all players as wanting one of three things: narrativist, which wanted story, simulationist, who wanted realism, and gamist, who wanted to have fun and play the game. They hated the latter two and worshipped narrativism as the one true god.

Certain g*mers compared it to an evil cancer or a cult

https://verbus.livejournal.com/1649.html

The Forge was controversial even when it was still going

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads%2Ftell-me-about-the-forge.355613%2F

Here is the Forge in all its glory

https://www.indie-rpgs.com/articles/20/

Osr or "old school roleplaying" is another weird rpf cult that is either diametrically opposed or partially overlapping with the Forge

https://livingmythrpg.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/rpg-theory-living-myth-vs-forge-theory/

Ron Edwards compared gms running railroady games to child abuse.

https://www.indie-rpgs.com/archive/index.php?topic=18707.0

The forge closed in 2010

https://stargazersworld.com/2010/11/03/the-end-of-the-forge/

Reaction was mixed

https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-is-the-forge.159851/

Ron Edwards claimed it had fulfilled its purpose.

https://indie-rpgs.com/archive/index.php?topic=25257.msg244501#msg244501

He was coping

Many fans and detractors still exist and still hate it

https://www.wizardthieffighter.com/2019/a-bad-turn-of-words-fantasy-heartbreaker/

https://refereeingandreflection.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/remembering-the-forge/

My own thoughts on their theory is that it's far too narrow. Every player has his own agenda that might include aspects of all three and other motives. It's a radical simplification of a hopelessly complicated muddle. Most of the forge alumni agree.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200118080825/http://www.story-games.com/forums/discussion/20273/the-big-model-rip

Also while Ron Edwards is an butt he's not a male feminist and didn't make a game for male feminists about playing a male feminist . Unlike Black Hat Matt Mcfarland and Beast the primordial. How can you hate Ron Edwards or Byron Hall, the author of fatal the worst rpg ever made,

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/315746/fatal-and-kiwifarms-a-match-made

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/169760/review-of-fatal-rpgnet-rpg-game

when neither of them are actual male feminists?

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/314992/beast-the-primordial-good-lord-above

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/273950/beast-the-primordial-is-the-game

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/272482/reddit-dive-into-beast-the-primordial

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/271029/what-did-people-actually-want-from

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/223552/beast-the-primordial-is-a-bad

https://rdrama.net/post/109832/fresh-beast-the-primordial-on-tg

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/200508/beast-the-primordial-or-trans-lives

https://rdrama.net/post/32502/4chan-daicusses-beast-the-primordial-the

The best link in this post is these two:

https://rdrama.net/post/23466/beast-the-primordial-is-terrible-or

https://rdrama.net/h/traditionalgames/post/255495/fatal-friends-review-btp-books-whitewolfrpg

Live by social justice die by social justice

https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/lugcr3/tabletop_rpg_the_tragic_ballad_of_adam_koebel_the/

A forge alumni learned this lesson far too late.

Let that be a lesson to you all: be a chud.

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:marseyspit: Bliss Stage :marseyspotlight: is so freaking insane. The only people that would :marseymid: play something :marseysmugface: like that are legitimate maniacs


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One of the first non-mainstream boardgames I ever played was a Bliss Stage card game. I didn't pick up the libertarianphilia themes in it, but the guy who was play testing it has been banned from most gamestores and is homeless now, so I can believe it.

Can someone redpill me about what's so gross about it?

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Read that first :marseywinner: link after 911roofer first :marseywinner: mentions it in his post. It's a write :marseychingchongnotes: up of someone playing it and reviewing it. It is truly deranged :marseybang: and not in a funny :marseycarlos: or wacky way


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I'll check it out, but no way am I clicking the second link and subjecting myself to an episode of System Mastery

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It's about teenagers fricking and having kids because they grant you the power to fight dreamland monsters.

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I think that the game I played was more focused on the characters and their mechs, none of the s*x stuff came up. I was under the impression that it was an anime. I was mostly bored while playing it and didn't retain much information.

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Or perverts

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