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mumsnet discusses what is a woman (12 pages of seethe)

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5139210-what-is-a-woman

>It's that there's

>a) no publicly available evidence for the xy chromosome result - if there is please can someone post the source?

>b) if you read the famous lancet article on the trans debate which covers xy chromosomes and s*x and dsds you will realise that a Y chromosome is not a literal letter Y, it is four chromatids of differing lengths and therefore not a neatly packaged thing

>c) evidence for higher testosterone, which essentially means nothing. I am currently pregnant with a baby boy, my testosterone levels are also above the cutoff point so presumably that means I am male too? despite having a human being kicking me in the ribs right now!?

>d) mn keyboard warriors saying Imane Khelif is a man is just offensive to someone who was born female and raised female, and had to face so much sexism in her life to even be able to enter boxing. I feel bad for her.

>e) mn keyboard warriors are actually using the same argument as the TRAs is ironic

>f) comments like the one above about Muslim countries pisses me off

>g) snopes and other fact check organisations say she was born and lived her entire life as female, and is not trans, and has not transitioned. She is not a man and she has never been a man.


>I see the possibility that a woman, who was born female, who was brought up female, who had to face sexism on her boxing journey because 'it's not feminine', who was part of controversial chromosome testing where I have seen no actual publicly available evidence that she has xy chromosomes, who has female body parts, who has high levels of testosterone, I think she has wrongly been accused of being male when all along she's just some girl who is a boxer. I just think it's worth considering this point. And that in the event that someone has all the female anatomy and things I describe above, how awful that people all over the world are going round being like 'it's a man it's a man'.


>But Khelif is a man, who based on the publicly-available information, has a DSD only men can have.

>He wasn't born female, he was misidentified by the doctor only having a cursory glance at what looked like a vulva.


TIL: shit is complicated and mumsnet bends the definitions to exclude ugly women/DSDs lmao

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He wasn't born female, he was misidentified by the doctor only having a cursory glance at what looked like a vulva.

Lmao and the parents never noticed?

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Tf is this website, /r/Breakingmom 2.0? :#brookslaugh: !nonchuds how many TERFs on this site you wanna bet lost custody of xeir children :#shyyt:

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lost custody of xeir children

The term in 15th trimester pillow abortion, moid!

:marsey#maid5:

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:#marseywould:

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>how many TERFs on this site you wanna bet lost custody of xeir children

Err, 0? :marseyshrug:

Seriously. Have you ever seen a mother lose custody? :marseyconfused: Even in the US it's rare. :marseygolden2:

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More like 1.0 lol OLD website

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>b) if you read the famous lancet article on the trans debate which covers xy chromosomes and s*x and dsds you will realise that a Y chromosome is not a literal letter Y, it is four chromatids of differing lengths and therefore not a neatly packaged thing

Wow, wait until she learns that the nucleotide bases in DNA aren't actually in the shape of A, C, G, or T.

Type B+ blood doesn't have any :marseybee: in it!


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I think this was the plot of Bee Movie or something idk :marseybee:

!kino

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I love me some Jerry Seinfeld

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Type B+ blood doesn't have any :marseybee: in it!

:marseysoycry: STOP LYING

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Daadass derogatory to those under the blood-to-bees curse

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Being smarter than me is not difficult :marseysob:

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Needs to be laboratory grade NGL, preferably HPLC

!chemistry

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mumsnet bends the definitions to exclude ugly women

Mumsnet consists purely of yummy mummys

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A mummy pinned this thread

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rdrama foids :marseyvenn5: mumsnet yumiiies

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Kleif isn't an "ugly woman". He's just a normal :marseychartgaussian: looking :marseyflirt: man with a fricked up peepee

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!transphobes

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In a video posted online, Khelif accused another country for the disqualification, calling the entire incident a "conspiracy" to bring the boxer down (Khelif was accusing Morocco).

:marseyschizowall: :marseylaugh:

I love the Algeria vs. Morocco thing so much. The level of hatred and paranoia is amazing for two countries that aren't at war with each other.

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Two morrocan buddies once invited me at their place and they were chilling by watching a documentary on Algeria's attempt to destroy Morocco

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suppose that she does have xy chromosomes -- i dont see why that would matter or how it would make her a man/inelligble to compete. it sounds like she has lived as a woman all of her life and never had male puberty, so what's the big deal?

also, its interesting (alarming) how your source neglects to mention that the IOC broke ties with IBA for unrelated corruption.

>Disqualifying Khelif did not benefit any Russian competitor.

false, it restored the undefeated status of a Russian boxer that Khelif defeated

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>she

:#marseypenis:

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!slots100

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:#dinover: :#dinosaurxd:

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I identify as a gorilla :marseykong2: and have done so all my life. Let me compete on 2000mg of testosterone :marseysoycrytremble: or you're a bigot :marseyracist:

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sure. go compete with the other gorillas, cant wait to see how this turns out

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I think I can do it

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That analogy doesn't work unless you're in the gorilla category in the olympics

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Sounds pretty fricking racist to me

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:#nerd:

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:marseyme:

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Why can't we let then use and and all PEDs/cybernetic enhancements?

Sports would be a lot cooler

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No he's a well 5-ARD peepeelet thug :!marseypunching:

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https://x.com/mylordbebo/status/1820440421136269780

This Krokodil Kween wants a rematch, too.

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:#chudturbospergout2: I want to know what mums think about Southport!!!

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All this genetic shit is above my understanding so I'm going to go with the :grug: stance that if your born with a vagina you're a woman. And yeah the Algerian lady is a genetic freak but you should expect most of the worlds top athletes to be genetic freaks.

>But it's unfair that she's stronger than normal women :marseytradmad:

there's a basketball player that's 7 and a half feet tall.

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She's a genetic freak in the sense of being born with internal male genitalia lol

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DSD, and specifically androgen insensitivity, is not a variation on a beautiful spectrum of sexual development. Rather, having XY chromosomes yet developing a female phenotype is the result of a deleterious genetic defect.

You will look like a woman but you will never be a woman, and you will never reproduce. !ifrickinglovescience !biology

You are not sexually developed if you cannot reproduce.

Sorry but sometimes shit sucks.

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Sorry but sometimes shit sucks.

I'm really getting sick of this attitude wokies have everyone should always be able to do whatever they want. I'd love to be out there competing in the 100m dash. Unfortunately I'm a cripple so I just can't ever do that. That's nobody's fault, I just have a medical condition that disqualifies me. These boxers do too.

It's like the fricking magic wheelchairs in D&D where you can be a crip and there's no negative consequences at all. Whenever I see this shit I know it's got to be coming from people who had really easy lives, because most of us didn't have the chance to do whatever we wanted in life.

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Frick man, I didn't mean to be a downer at ya. I love your balls. You can magic wheelchair down my throat for all I care.

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Nah, that's fine. It's not something I feel bad about anymore.

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Wanna touch peepees?

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Sure. My herpes isn't breaking out right now so I think we're gucci.

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Everyone can do whatever they want

(except share the wrong opinions)

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I love the idea that BBEGs make accessible dungeons for the heroes. Not even Scooby Doo villains are this accommodating.

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luv me some mumsnet

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>He wasn't born female, he was misidentified by the doctor only having a cursory glance at what looked like a vulva.

:#marseymanysuchcases:

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(source: i made it up)

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A woman is what starry isn't, simple definition

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bends the definitions to exclude ugly women/DSDs

As it should be

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Am I a woman??

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Yes. :marseyblowkiss:

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why does their website have the kids next door logo like the kids show

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wadda heck.............

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Women are literally children

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Which one of you lot posted this thread? You're playing the part of a well-meaning midwit perfectly :marseychefkiss:

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what is a mum

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someone i banged

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mumsnet bends the definitions to exclude ugly women

Based mums

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