Lemmygrad discusses

Watch angry exchange between Trump and Zelensky at White House

Libs are super mad but I have seen 2 bit western journ*lists disrespect Asian and African leaders this way a bunch of times and libs celebrate it as clapping back.

I personally think it's great that everyone gets to see under the covers about what the empire thinks of you. Let's be clear, the dems lost on purpose so the right could do this and get applause from its audience. And then in 4 years we may flip over and the theater will play a different movie for the lib fans. But it's just theater at the end of the day.

One thing that pops out quite strongly to me is that when Trump tells Zelensky that they aren't winning the war, Zelensky responds with

We are staying in our country. We are staying strong

Zelensky can't even say in public that they are winning, or have a chance of winning. Only that the fighting will continue. He wants to continue bleeding Ukrainian lives no matter what. He has no rebuke to Trump's statement that they are wasting life, or gambling with WW3. It's a testament of how delusional you have to be that Trump is coming across as the reasonable voice of peace when dealing with you!

That's what I thought seeing that, Trump should never be the one making a reasonable statement in any room.

I think to the average dumbass American that exchange made Trump look amazing. Which sucks. He gets to look like the defender of America against meanie ukrainians who want all its guns while simultaneously sending israel everything it wants and continuing the genocide.

Everyone is pissing on the floor and demanding you respect how strong their piss streams are

really? idk to me both vance and trump look like wimps, zelensky being allowed to yap like that and not instantly being shut down in place makes them look weak. ive seen people have more authority in daily life tbh.

wouldn't be lemmygrad without a "a strong leader should silence the weak" type opinion

You gotta remember your a lot more educated on this tho. Most Americans are gonna see like a few second clip that the media cuts to make zelensky look extra mean and theyll use the "your playing with WW3" line from Trump to make him look like this big peace defender. Then theyll say he kicked zelensky out of the WH for being rude, and the average american will eat it up.

Lol, they fricking kicked him out of the White House

And of course Sheepdog Sanders has to come out and show how much of a neocon agenda loyalist he is now:

Such a disappointment of a man.

It's also just stupid, even in terms of purely cynical political gain. Three years ago it was certainly politically advantageous to virtue signal support for Ukraine. But we can see which way the wind is blowing now. The US wants to ditch project Ukraine and they are currently in the process of unwinding the heroization propaganda surrounding Zelensky. This public humiliation ritual was just the latest part of that image tarnishing.

And the veil that has hidden the ugly reality of what has been going on in Ukraine for these past years will be slowly lifted by the media so that the US can say "it's not our fault the war was lost, look how corrupt they turned out to be". And many of the European leaders, as well as the Democrats and "progressives" in the US, who insist on tying their political credibility to the sinking ship that is Zelensky may well be dragged down along with him.

If you're going to be a rat at least be a smart one. Know when it's time to jump ship.

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