Hero shooters, and hero-based games are the worst trend in gaming.

DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site 10mo ago #5868096

@tempest @JohnnyBOO @Evilmon @AndreaDoria

Hero Shooters are MOBA Shooters.

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GayWhiteFagLord they/them 10mo ago #5866278

Not gonna elaborate?

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Wolverine We/Wuz I'm the Best there is at what I do, but what I do best isn't very nice GayWhiteFagLord 10mo ago #5866309

i hate magenta

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SpookyFartMan69 shart/pants shart/pants 10mo ago #5865879

I hate the microtransactions more than anything tbh

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Wolverine We/Wuz I'm the Best there is at what I do, but what I do best isn't very nice SpookyFartMan69 10mo ago #5866302

not all mt games are hero shooters, but all hero shooters are mt games

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I deserve s*x SpookyFartMan69 10mo ago #5866071

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ManBearHumbug O/I Subject Expert: Mayo Nonsense/Moderator 10mo ago #5865722

The frick is a hero shooter

:platy#old:

:chad!black2: :marseybear: :marseyrefrigerator:

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ManBearHumbug 10mo ago #5866426

Liek Overwatch n shiet :donkeykongclimbing:

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K9 she/it :marseycia:

If I pull that off, will you die? :marseybane:

10mo ago #5865682

Agreed. They all sprung from League of Legends. Curse of death the moment a former Riot Game Design Lead joins your kino shooter

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site 10mo ago #5865662

@tempest @JohnnyBOO @Evilmon @AndreaDoria

There is fundamental difference you people don't seem to understand about hero shooters and something like TF2. TF is 12v12, HeroShooters are almost always 5v5. This means that in TF2 it will always be a fight of skill between the teams, given they have an somewhat equal spread of all characters, whereas most hero shooters are more reliant on which line up of character you have in play, not a test of skill, but a test of the wallet.

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tempest me/me DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5867472

Now you're saying the difference between a Hero Shooter and Class Shooter is team size.

Come on bro you're just r-slurred, pretend you were drunk and move on.

whereas most hero shooters are more reliant on which line up of character you have in play

In OW you can switch your hero whenever you die. You even get to keep some of your ult charge now. The game is literally designed around people swapping up heroes as needed during the game.

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site tempest 10mo ago #5868095

Yes Tempest, that's what I said, it's not focused around being good but rather switching characters to counter the opponents.

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Wolverine We/Wuz I'm the Best there is at what I do, but what I do best isn't very nice DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5868125

which isn't a factor in TF2 at all :marseyhesfluffyyouknow:

don't die on this hill. look at this pooners breasts again instead https://rdrama.net/post/242615/pooner-regrets-chopping-off-her-massive

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XD VAX/MAXXED I think you are cool sometimes Wolverine 9mo ago #5873030

Not in casual play no, I can top frag with anything but medic pretty consistently :marseyboomer:

Comp was also pretty static when I played. Occasionally peopled swap to a sniper but it was the same team comp for most of the game. Not really rock paper scissors

:#marsey:

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site Wolverine 10mo ago #5868155

OK, I'll stop. :marseyblush:

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Wolverine We/Wuz I'm the Best there is at what I do, but what I do best isn't very nice DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5866259

bro...

:marseydisagree:

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site Wolverine 10mo ago #5868088

:marseywave3:

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BasicallyADoxxer he/ham Rehab Platinum Elite status DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5866154

what is it with TF2cels and having the biggest superiority complex in all of gaming

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site BasicallyADoxxer 10mo ago #5868085

I am a CScel....

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BasicallyADoxxer he/ham Rehab Platinum Elite status DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5870562

maybe now but you talk like a TF2 strag

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DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865769

So 6v6 competitive tf2 is a p2w no skill hero shooter but pubs aren't, good to know :marseythumbsup:

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Zizo we/wuz male feminist of God AndreaDoria 10mo ago #5871074

It is kind of funny how the situation's reversed with tf2

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stoploggingmeoutuwu him/she Dudeweedlmao DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865718

but a test of the wallet

Aren't cosmetics all you can buy in :marseyitsover: watch?

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tempest me/me stoploggingmeoutuwu 10mo ago #5867671

Yes.

Strictly speaking, there's one (new) hero most seasons that you technically have to "unlock" (takes like 40 hours total playtime, just playing any game), or you can pay $10 to play them immediately. So there's a fairly soft P2W. But at the end of the season, you get the new hero regardless, so there's only ever one that you can be "locked out of".

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johnnypoop Sein/Feld MasterBaiter stoploggingmeoutuwu 10mo ago #5865720

I know in paladins, which is free to play, you can buy heros rhat aren't free to play, since ya know, the game is free. They need a revenue model :marseylaying:

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stoploggingmeoutuwu him/she Dudeweedlmao johnnypoop 10mo ago #5866123

paladins

Looks like a shit(ier) overwatch ripoff for third-worlders :marseynails:

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johnnypoop Sein/Feld MasterBaiter stoploggingmeoutuwu 10mo ago #5866137

Overwatch literally :marseyme: stole :marseymimic: everything from paladins

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johnnypoop Sein/Feld MasterBaiter DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865695

Making these weird :marseytongue: arbitrary declarations doesn't make you right. You've literally :marseyme: gone through every cope possible and are grasping at straws

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George_Washington First/Pres 10mo ago #5865140

Heroes ruined :marseygraze: Total War

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Bum they/them George_Washington 9mo ago #5885157

It was all right when it was like a general's bodyguard unit who could give some morale boost to nearby units or whatever.

Warhammer is what ruined it for real

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PowerfoolMan them/them "Are you neurodivergent? Normal people aren't like this." 10mo ago #5865007

None of them ever do anything interesting. Suicide squad is a great example. They all have guns? ???

The biggest difference between them is their movement abilities. Why is the big shark man not melee focused?

Even games like overwatch where everyone is a "superhero" involve 90% of the cast shooting each other.

Please do something genuinely interesting. I always thought something like R6 siege but the heroes are genuine heroes might be interesting. Each team would have a limited number of points to spend on hero select each round and you could just round robin the picking order so everyone gets a chance to pick someone expensive and frick the team over.

Like Iron Man for 8 points and leave the other team members sharing 12 points between each other. Make heroes like Punisher or Daredevil for 1 point. Give them a regular cop with a gun for 0 idk figure it out.

Then if a hero is unbalanced you could bump its point cost up. If a team is down 4-0 then dynamically unlock pity heroes like Ghost Rider who are OP for their cost.

Idk what the game mode would be but it would need a secondary objective beyond killing people.

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Zizo we/wuz male feminist of God PowerfoolMan 10mo ago #5871083

I don't get why they got the actors from the movie in the game but then made king shark smart and able to use guns. I thought the entire point of inhuman characters is that they have completely different playstyles?

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Cream_a_da_crop ching/chong Unironic Tankie and CPC shill PowerfoolMan 10mo ago #5866601

Daredevil

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PowerfoolMan 10mo ago #5865008

No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.

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Brony UNDER/TALE Cream Ponut Factory 10mo ago #5864901

Correction:

ASSCUTE TWINKS (Remember when you could say that on reddit? Lol. :troll: ) and esports in general is the greater scope worst trend in gaming.

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site Brony 10mo ago #5864942

Esports are great, just git gud scrub :marseysmug6:

Not wrong about ASSCUTE TWINKS though :marseyxd:

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s_a_n_t_b who/whom Computer User 10mo ago #5864852

Team Fortress 2 was good for a few years before they fricked it up

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site s_a_n_t_b 10mo ago #5864860

Not a hero shooter.

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tempest me/me DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5864897

how not???

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site tempest 10mo ago #5864964

It's a class shooter, only 9 playable characters that have distinct differences and don't directly counter eachother too much. A hero shooter is something like Overwatch or Siege, which is essentially just advanced rock-paper-scissors, using heroes that have hyper-specific abilities, but they have like 30-50 of them. Or Valorant, where they release a new hero every few months, OP as frick, and then a new hero after that who directly counters the previous hero. Plain r-sluration. Class shooters are based on weapons, hero shooters on characters.

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DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865435

>overwatch has a slow, fat guy with a bunch of HP who heals himself and gets hard countered by a fragile, skinny sniper

:chudtantrum: eewww disgusting hero shooter literally ruined muh vidya gaymes forever

>tf2 has a slow, fat guy with a bunch of HP who heals himself and gets hard countered by a fragile, skinny sniper

:marseysoyhype: RETVRN to le keyed class shooter that's totally different

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site AndreaDoria 10mo ago #5865464

:marseyshrug: Atleast you can bhop in tf2, can't do shit in OW

Also this is just super Ignant, Heavy can equip so much different shit that completely changes his timings like the Shotgun, GRU, FoS or KGB.

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DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865514

I mean yeah OW is a shit game but not because there's magically some difference between the genre classifications or w/e ur coping about, it's just shit execution of the same concept that tf2 did a decade before it.

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site AndreaDoria 10mo ago #5865534

:marseyshrug: It is a fundamentally different philosophy though, don't understand what's wrong with saying that. A class based shooter focuses on archetypes, a hero shooter focuses on specific kit at a time. This often leads to shit games, like valorant. Literally just Rock-Paper-Scissors with whatever new flavor of the month hero.

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tempest me/me DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865047

Found 30 Coins!

A hero shooter is something like Overwatch

Class shooters are keyed on weapons, hero shooters on characters.

you complete and utter r-slur, the different OW heroes have entirely different guns like just like different TF2 classes, and Maybe youre trying to say that Valorant is a hero shooter and not a class shooter because your agent doesnt determine what gun you use??? Oh wait your r-slurred butt called it a hero shooter as well

seems like a completely meaningless distinction you pulled from your butt

omg! it sounds like your definition is games i like are class shooters but games i dont like are hero shooters because there is literally NO distinction between the two in your description

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site tempest 10mo ago #5865176

What are you even saying? None of the characters in tf2 have specific abilities, they have a selection of guns to select. In OW there is no variation within a hero, they must be played in one single specific way, blizz literally removed skill based things because noobs couldn't do it.

Agents in valorant, do actually determine what utility you get, you fricking mong.

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tempest me/me DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865610

you're terminally r-slurred lmao

>no you see this game has two classes that have sniper-like weapons and not just one!! that means it's totally different!!

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site tempest 10mo ago #5865613

It does though when only one of them have access to a specific kit... u are fricking r-slurred man :marseyxd:

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tempest me/me DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865626

Every TF2 hero only had access to a specific kit.

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Evilmon they/them DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865474

Scout can double jump, spy can disguise, engi buildings, medic literally has an ultimate.

TF2 didn't have weapon selection for years. If OW gave people the ability to switch between two slightly different guns for each character would that suddenly make it a class-based shooter?

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DestoryerCarbine sae/less Only real g*mer on this entire site Evilmon 10mo ago #5865498

No because the game of OW is based around making new characters :marseyfacepalm: That's why it's a HERO-shooter.

Compared to OW TF2 shit is mild, but it's all semantics. I do like CS or Quake more than TF in some respects. This is a dumb thing to get caught up on.

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johnnypoop Sein/Feld MasterBaiter DestoryerCarbine 10mo ago #5865541

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johnnypoop Sein/Feld MasterBaiter tempest 10mo ago #5865057

It's because it is. Even borderlands is a hero shooter :marseydeterminedgun:

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tempest me/me johnnypoop 10mo ago #5865103

:marseyagree:

sometimes the vidya-related takes on rdrama are seriously more r-slurred than the ones on reddit, and thats a really low bar

reminds me of another argument someone started about real time with pause games where a game that is in real time except you pause with spacebar wasnt a real time with pause game because... uhh... reasons!!! but its whatever

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johnnypoop Sein/Feld MasterBaiter tempest 10mo ago #5865216

Yeah these BIPOCs have the worst video :marseyzeldagerudolink: game takes I've ever seen and I don't even play games :marseygamer:

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tempest me/me johnnypoop 10mo ago #5865584

It's simply incredible.

>nooooo it's not a hero-based shooter because The Sniper... can choose from two different sniper rifles!!

:soycrytalking: @TranstoyerCarbine

It's especially funny because when TF2 just came out - aka the time it was at its best - each class only had a single set of weapons. Like you couldn't change them. All pyros used the same flamethrower, all medics had the same heal gun, it was literally just like OW except fewer heroes, and each hero had a much smaller set of abilities/guns to play with. I mean the balance wasn't nearly as atrocious as OW and it was certainly far more fun to play, but claiming it's not a hero shooter is really something else.

My only guess is he's an r-slured zoomer and has only played the game recently, after they added lootboxes and hats and other r-slurred shit to it to ruin it. But it's so fundamentally a hero shooter at its core, IIRC each gun is still locked to a SINGLE class, ie. a medic can't equip the pyro's flamethrower.