One of the best games of the last decade (with one of the more disappointing sequels of this decade) got its sequel half-announced yesterday, with the publisher stating it will be a "multiplayer-focused live-service game." Holy yikes, for a game that had an expansion-turned-offshoot that sucked in part due to it removing the sense of being alone exploring an alien world, this is awful news, right? Twitter and the game's subreddit agree, because that's the correct take.
A lot of g*mer seethe here, but by and large can be summed up by this pic
Subreddit wasn't have much fun either. I think they deleted a lot of the posts after the devs Corrected the Record™️, so a little hard to find threads but there's still a few up. There is a little coping, too, but it seems most people are unsurprised that the devs continue to misunderstand why their game was good in the first place.
Shout out to this based chad setting coping subnutters right.
Developer: We're making our next game use a shitty model that prioritizes money over fun and engaging content.
Sane people: We're not going to buy your game
Other people: Come on guys, just because every other GAAS game is terrible doesn't mean that this one will be.
Major "communism will work THIS time" vibes.
Finally, the devs speak out and clarify that nooo child, the game will not have a battlepass, it will simply have updates over time :^). They even go as far as to comment and lock threads that were pooping on the publisher statement.
Correct take from random dude (option 1 is probably most correct, with a bit of option 2).
No one has ever used that definition of GaaS until now. GaaS as a term comes from SaaS, which is built entirely around recurring revenue and subscriptions. Why would they use that to represent just doing typical patches and updates if there weren't ideas for recurring revenue? There are three possibilities in my mind:
1 The investor relations team used GaaS because it's popular right now and makes investors happy, but they aren't actually implementing any GaaS aspects
2 The playerbase is being duped
3 They were planning to go GaaS and aren't now because we all freaked out
Sadly, it seems most people take this to assume everything is copacetic and in fact we should all pretend Below Zero wasn't one of the most bland games of 2021, as seen in the [quote tweets of the IGN correction post.] (https://x.com/IGN/status/1755674941830152302/retweets/with_comments)
Not really that dramatic after the fact, but I guess it's nice the game got announced, sort of.
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Subnautica isn't even in the ballpark of a game like Outer Wilds. Lots of people have suggest Subnautica and it does scratch some of the same itches but it's more about survival/crafting which has been done 6 gorrilian times. Outer Wilds hits all the exploration/mystery notes and does it better and also doesn't have an overplayed crafting system.
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Outer Wilds
is pure concentrated soy. Outer Worlds 
> Outer Wilds.
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Bro no chance. The Outer Worlds is pure Fallout NV style (the soy Reddit parts) Reddit cheesiness. The whole reason it was hyped up was because it was made by Obsidian the makers of Fallout NV. I even love Fallout New Vegas but it's like the ultimate
game lol. I mean I'm not even gonna lie it was a decent game but not that unique. !nooticers
Outer Wilds was a one of a time experience that really can only be done one time. @PeepeeButtKiss even gave up on the game at first because the space flying physics was hard too realistic.
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Worlds > new vegas > fallout 3
Thats just how it is
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ok so what? Those games are a different genre. @PeepeeButtKiss agree with you're ranking even tho @PeepeeButtKiss put Vegas above Worlds.
But the game @PeepeeButtKiss was talking about is Outer Wilds, completely different game altogether.
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I was mocking you mocking worlds hoping you liked vegas a lot
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@PeepeeButtKiss do like New Vegas and Outer Wolds a little but Worlds is basic as shit compared too Vegas. Both made by the same company but funded very differently
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Its true. Vegas has a reputation it doesnt deserve, fallout games are mid in general and age very poorly
If you were trying them for the first time, id recommend worlds over any of the fallouts or elder scrolls
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True but outer worlds is also mid
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Yeah. Its not a good game formula and the writers are never as clever as they think they are
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Wait are you both bots? @PeepeeButtKiss already explained the difference in the games and you are repeating yourself. Bot?
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That's like recommending fire ants for someone's urethra.
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Outer Wilds
is fake literature 
for people too dumb to read a short 
story.
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The interesting thing is any sequence of the game can be discovered by anyone it's all a matter of how curious you are basically and the more you find out the quicker you get too the end.
Of course this moron will try and tell me about how the game he mistakenly referred to an hour ago is actually the thing he was talking about the whole time but that's only because he's such an r-slur I don't even call him out on mistakes, I just ignore them until the special boy forgets
@NO
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Yes, the game is boring
and predictable with a run time of 2 hours. Yawn. With a game that shitty why wouldn't you just watch 
a youtuber 
play? Brainlet.
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I'll kill you
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You being Jeff Dunham totally checks out.
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the fake ventriloquouset comedian? @PeepeeButtKiss thought that guy sucked when @PeepeeButtKiss was 12 when he first got big like back when @PeepeeButtKiss was in middle school lol.
@PeepeeButtKiss met him once and @PeepeeButtKiss told him too "be quiet or @PeepeeButtKiss would murder you" @PeepeeButtKiss think he used that in his stand up tho.
One time he smuggled @PeepeeButtKiss through airport security and @PeepeeButtKiss got through because @PeepeeButtKiss told them "AYYYY @PeepeeButtKiss IS LINDSEY LOHAN!!!"""
One time @PeepeeButtKiss got into an argument with @PeepeeButtKiss's Uber driver and we went back and forth like this;
“Jeff: The drive from the valley?
Peanut: Was bad as heck!
Jeff: Traffic?
Peanut: Sucked like heck!
Jeff: Drivers?
Peanut: Angry as heck!
Jeff: And you?
Peanut: Were scared as heck!
Jeff: Parking?
Peanut: Sucked more like heck!
Jeff: So?
Peanut: We're in heck! ”
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well then why don't you tell us which games you think are good?
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Myst
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are you frickin serious? if you like Myst than you would enjoy Outer Wilds you peepeehead
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I'm loving this slapfight
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Slapfight? What are you implying?
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I already told you I beat it and the dlc.
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No you didnt @PeepeeButtKiss is being gaslit. @PeepeeButtKiss suppose @PeepeeButtKiss have been drinking a lot, @PeepeeButtKiss could be wrong.
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t. looked up the solutions to the puzzles and spoiled the ending for himself
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If you like Myst you'd love Myst with worse puzzles where to get anywhere you have to fight a shitty 3D movement system that exists solely to pad out the runtime with busywork because otherwise the game would be 5 minutes long
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I stopped playing the game at first and only picked it up months later because the spaceflight physics were too hard. once u get the hang of it it makes sense and is even realistic u just have to keep an eye on your speed basically. Theres also some challenges likeflying to the Sun Station which aren't required but take advantage of the physics
plus on each planet the gravity value is different so when traveling on foot u can really zip around.
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Is Outer Wilds that good?
Cos your comment hit a nail on the head. I loved the mystery and exploration of Subnautica and the crafting was just tolerated.
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Outer Wilds is more popular than Outer Worlds. So maybe
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Both came out around the same time. "The Outer Worlds" is more like Fallout in a space setting than "Outer Wilds" which doesn't even really have any combat per se. The Outer Worlds sold probably 10 times Outer Wilds did tho even tho Outer Wilds is 10000x more creative
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Don't insult Fallout like that.
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I think people just overhyped Outer Worlds because Obsidian.
I have that I just haven't gotten around to playing it yet
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The best companion is Vicar Max. The other companions are fine, except the medic girl. She's suuuuuch a redditor and champagne socialist.
Main game story is fine. Its goofy and fun. The 2 DLCs are actually pretty high quality and fun and have a very much needed difficulty spike for combat.
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I hated her. She's all of the worst things about Veronica from FNV dialed up but without any of the redeeming qualities.
Vicar Max was the only character in that entire game that behaved like an adult. His quest was still stupid though.
Did they add any weapon variety in the DLCs? The combat difficulty was fine if I pretended didn't know how to build a strong character but all of the guns were the same so it just became a chore pretty quickly.
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DLCs have more science weapons which are the only weapons with worth messing around with after all because they are goofy. Can't remember if there were normal new weapons in them though.
The cracked out drug fiends have above average damage resistance so you actually have shoot them in the peepee multiple times.
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It's bad, the main gimmick just kind of makes it a hassle to play and the characters are really bland.
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Yes. But don't look into the game anymore than you have. @PeepeeButtKiss went in blind as a bat and @PeepeeButtKiss got some very unique surprises. Don't look up any of the puzzles or anything either. @PeepeeButtKiss been stuck on a few and @PeepeeButtKiss was stuck on only one that @PeepeeButtKiss had too look up and was kicking myself because it turned out too be so simple.
The game is excellent, one of @PeepeeButtKiss's favorite games ever but by the nature of it there is no recreating it. There is no levels or gatekeeping if you personally know how too reach the end game you could do it on a fresh save in ten minutes. The whole point is that you learn what too do and where too go. There is also a DLC which is great but if u do play it but shouldn't touch until after you're first playthrough at least. But it does add a ton too the game but it's like a different area.
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Everyone says this but don't listen because if you hear all the nerds bleating about how its the BEST GAME EVER MADE!!! and you MUSTNT LOOK ANYTHING UP OR YOU'LL RUIN IT!!! then your experience will be turning it on, struggling with a totally garbage movement system that is the main aspect of the game, finding very little of interest and then turning it off
Look up a playthrough or spoilers and if you are vibing then stop partway through and play the rest yourself. The big mystery isn't anything amazing anyway there's just kind of a nice ending
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Just watch a speedrun
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GOTY
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The movement system is actually perfect and better than any other space game. You're just too much of an r-slur to understand basic Newtonian physics
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found the incel
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Its not remotely the same game as subnautica imo, anyone recommending them together needs their brain checked. But it is good and worth playing if you enjoy exploring and puzzles
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It takes the good parts of Subnautica and makes them better, minus the atmosphere / horror aspects (mostly). If you play subnautica for the crafting you're r-slurred
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Outer wilds is primarily a puzzle mystery game. Subnautica is primarily an exploration survival game. They really arent that similar and i would not automatically recommend one to someone who enjoys the other
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easily in the top 10 games of all time
play it immediately, and go in blind. also get the DLC
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Interesting how outer wilds has such diehard fans. One of my friends has it as his favorite game of all time, i dont think its even top 10 in the past five years.
Good for sure, but for some people it just hit some itch
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I put them in the same boat as Undertale fans.
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Biiig comparison. Dead on the money, fine game but so overhyped
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Now you're just being mean.
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I mean if you don't like it you don't like it, but it's executed nearly flawlessly and it exemplifies its genre. If you like the sort of game that it is, there's nothing better.
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Thats fair, i think its too just too niche to really be widely popular. Zealots for it will miss more than they hit recommending it with such praise without knowing the other persons taste
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Doesnt have to be. Elden ring was loved by normies and i think its the pinnacle of souls design, my personal top game of all time
A truly great game will have wide appeal, and drag people that normally dont play that genre over to it.
The marios, the zeldas, the halos, even something like starcraft
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It's vidya. Even the best of the best can't compete with any other medium on the basis of artistic value.
Interesting art with broad appeal is the absolute peak. Niche art and popular slop aren't called the greatest ever in any other medium because there's art in those mediums that is compelling to basically everyone.
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Hmm
video games, due to their interactivity, can create reactions in their audience that other mediums can't really do. However this potential is often squandered by trying to ape other mediums instead of being confident in the strenghts of interactivity
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If u played the game you would cry like a baby just reserve you're judgement until u try it foo
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Tell me about how smart you have to be to appreciate Rick and Morty
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Yeah its this, the undertale-style way the fans push it is the biggest thing against it because you will just turn it on, see a kind of janky mid indie game, and wonder what the frick they were creaming their pants over
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I usually tell people to try it, that they might bounce off it but that if they like it they'll really like it.
It might have been tainted retroactively by so many othertimeloop games coming out all at once
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I will say it's the best game in the genre of those really shitty flash games where you have to agonisingly try and guide a spaceship onto a platform without it crashing. Compared to games anyone wants to play though it's not even top 100
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I think there's the question of whether video games are art
I do not think video games are art
But I don't think it's impossible for a video game to be art, I just think it hasn't been done yet, and I do not expect to live to see it
But Outer Wilds is significantly closer - in this aspect it shines, while overall it's "good for sure"
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I think most people just dont give a shit about artistry. Movies are art, most movies have dogshit to say and no one notices good cinematography. Are people really engaging with movies as an artform? Or course not
Now the same applies to games. Games are absolutely art, but the average g*mer, even a hardcore g*mer, is not engaging with the artistry. Outer wilds is closer to traditional art, sure. I dont think thats what games as an artform excel at
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The Talos Principle is art, in several aspects.
Also, "Spider and Web" is art specifically as an interactive fiction game, that is, it does a thing that's impossible in any other medium: https://eblong.com/zarf/zweb/tangle
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The soundtrack alone would earn awards besides if u even like the game
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Wooof if you think outer wilds has a goated soundtrack. Its better than most
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Holy frick I"ve been jebaited and roasted and toasted.
@Nyasia you got me buddy I just had a srs argument with a bot even tho i already called it out. Bots are smarter than drunk people evidently
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You are just embarassing yourself lol. Also we havent argued, ive made fun of you.
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OK, WELL ARE YOU ESL OR HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN YOU'RE ATTEMPTS AT COMMUNICATING?
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One tenth of a good song does not a good soundtrack make. It's just twelve fricking notes on loop
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I think that's it, it's my personal favorite game. The art, music and gameplay all contribute to the story which I really like. I think it's a game that only works well for some people; all my friends bounced off it.
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ive been sleeping on it for a while myself. gonna try it soon.
If you want another mystery/exploration game with tacked on crafting The Forest was amazeballs
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Outer wilds is literally one of the most overrated games of all time.
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