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Original Fallout co-creator Tim Cain says 'Critique of capitalism was never the point' of the games and if anything they're about how 'war is inevitable given basic human nature'. https://t.co/HMqJaDBX6z
— PC Gamer (@pcgamer) August 22, 2024
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The original concept was "let's make an RPG out of Mad Max", not "let's make an RPG out of Das Kapital".
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Let's remake Wasteland
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It's been awhile since I heard the interview, but iirc they said it was just wanting to directly do Mad Max. But I can't imagine they didn't at least think of Wasteland a lot.
Kind of like Civilization. Sid Meier insists that none of it at all is based on the board game Advanced Civilization, and I mostly believe him. It obviously owes a heck of a lot to Empire and he's mentioned Sim City as an inspiration. The rules of it have very little in common with the board game. But it must have been rattling around in the back of his mind. (Also there was litigation over the name of it, so he couldn't admit it if he wanted to.)
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Fallout was only ever an improvement of Wasteland (not really an improvement, more like a slight update) so really Bethesda could always take the concept of Wasteland, throw it in blender, add a coat of paint and call it theirs
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I tried to play Wasteland but it's got the one layer of obsolescence I can't take: There wasn't enough space on the disk to store text so they printed it out in a book and you have to look up a certain page. I still play stuff like MULE, Seven Cities of Gold, Lords of Conquest, but that's too much even for me.
Oh yeah, I need to get around to this.
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You are one of us oldstrags. How the frick does the game not know how to print those pages to the disk, even with the text on screen, wtf? How old was this game when it came out?
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It was 1988. I remember seeing that iconic picture on the front of the box going into the PC game store.
The one time I tried to play it, it was 10+ years ago. I pirated it from HomeOfTheUnderdogs (hardcore !boomers remember the ultimate abandonware site of the golden age) so I had to keep alt-tabbing to the manual constantly. Totally ruined it for me. If "remastered" means I don't have to do that I'll play. (And I really don't play party-based RPGs other than Darklands but please don't tell anyone that.)
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We always knew.
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Darklands is hardcore enough, isn't it? It has a party. I'm sorry if I'm not Wizardrymaxxing, I tried once but...
I gotta go back there and face up to my sins.
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Oh boy I'm starting to feel like a boomer myself. What was it like, I can't even remember. You remember the feeling of being a kid, playing a game and feeling like you were just there. Youd click right, click left and then you'd see the game and feel amazed by something so advanced.
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Neighbor you're literally 1 year old
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I joined rdrama the day I was born. This site is all I have.
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