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Apparently the uber soys working on DA4 deliberately avoided the use of spiders as enemies, in order to avoid offending the sensibilities of those with arachnophobia.
The news of this going along the grapevine is just many tiny titbits of news, making even the most braindead slopconsuming DA fans hesitant about being excited regarding the upcoming Dragon Age 4 in less than a month - especially since 3 months ago, Bioware had released a trailer which garnered a large amount of dislikes from people for a myriad of reasons.
The reason for the backlash or dislike or lack of positive feedback are many, including the great fracturing of the fanbase - but most of it was also to due with the context within which the DA4 trailer was released. For the past 2 years gaming has seen spectacular mega-blockbuster game failures from AAA developers and publishers, stuff like Redfall and GOllum, Forspoken and Suicide Squad and Skull and Bones, Saits Row 2022 reboot and so on.
ALL of these uber AAA games had immediate uncertainty and pushback upon their trailers, Saints Row 2022 reboot's trailers back in 2020 & 2021, had immediate backlash from the core Saints Row fanbase, whom had gotten used to the dark humor and morally abhorrent but likeable protagonists of the series.
The student soyboys protagonists of the reboot, left many with uncertainty as to the quality of the rest of the game, if the developers could seemingly miss the previous tone of the series so badly to SUCH an extent. Even Saints Row 4, the batshit insane matrix alien invasion parody title, held the dark humor and moral abhorrence of the protagonists to old standard, even if Saints Row 2 fans hated the zany story.
Instead it gave the fanbase a fear that the developers of the Saints Row 2022 Reboot legitimately hadn't actually played the games, or legitimately didn't comprehend them and their themes.
In the ensuing months past its release in 2022, the /r/saintsrow sub was a perpetual battleground, where shitlibs wokes and soys tried to gaslamp everyone into believing the game was good or even of acceptable quality - yet this time, the spectacular critical and financial failure vindicated the detractors of the Reboot, in that their fears all the way back in 2020 were well founded - in that if the developers could not even hold the same writing tone of the previous titles, whether through incompetence or agenda pushing, then there was very little chance that the other aspects of the game would be up to par.
A similar phenomenon had occurred in the trailers, and pre-release period of many uber high profile failures. Forspoken to Gollum, to Redfall. And although a bad trailer is never a guarantee of a predictor of the quality of a game, these specific high profile failures, each so close to each other, each vindicating detractors from teh moment the trailers dropped, demonstrated that much could be inferred by veteran gaymers or even normies ESPECIALLY negatively if the writing tone of specific series was different, if woke girlboss or woke seeming modern contemporary politics were present within the trailer, like a canary in the coalmine,
or just corpospeak and obvious trendchasing. The now infamous Concord failure was another such prediction by detractors as much as 2 years ago, since many Hero Shooter genre corposhit trendchaser soulless games have already lost millions for their demented out-of-touch CEOs. In fact Concord WILDLY exceeded even the worst predictions of failure as we now in the present know with hindsight.
I had an exchange with @Losercel 3 months back (can't remember the comments) where he exclaimed it was foolish for dramatards and other detractors to already be so negative with regards to a game still 4 months away, and I espoused that in isolation this might be true, but within the context of so many high profile failures, the negativity was warrented.
ON SPECIFICALLY THE PUSHBACK ON THE DA4 BIOWARE TRAILER:
Again many reasons for the negativity, but basically 3 months ago, the pushback could be boiled down to 2 main factors.
Many peeps immediately despised the artstyle of the trailer, declaring it too be "too cartoony", and appearing to be targeting the zoomer or Fortnite or Hero Shooter fandom.
With an additional 15 years worth of build up disdain for Marvelesque dialogue and writing
Additionally peeps decried the tone for being waaaaaay offbeat, too similar to Disney/Marvel or too light hearted, in comparison to the previous entries of the series having been relatively grimdark in tone type Dark Fantasy, with certain portions of of ALL 3 games having had sections which were borderline horror in tone and theme. (The Broodmother quests in Origins, the female Frankenstein quests in DA2, and the MINDRAPE quest or Fade in Inquisition) Even inquisition could have many dark moments despite its more colourful palette compared to its progenitors
"This is what Tevinter Magisters saw in Golden City."
Anyways it's just a whole comment section meming and lamenting the fear that the feel of the game was too different from its predecessors.
Additionally since 2019-2024, another phenomena had occurred, a relative mainstreamification of chudtubers and anti-woke media critics on Youtube, for example the most infamous currently being guys like the Critical Drinker.
Born from many chuds, to eventually even normies having had no outlet to voice their discontent of modern Hollyweird woke slop from both Disney and Hollywood greater, in which race-bending of white european characters from traditional medieval periods, to disliked girlboss chars, to the perception that modern contemporary politics had found its way into escapism fiction.
These anti-woke critics/youtubers still wouldn't sway any liberally minded peeps, and their reach was still only a fraction of normies, but even IRL in my real world experiences, around the office water cooler, or worksites or between trusted friends or family, I have noticed explicit anti-woke sentiment or talking points espoused by peeps i would consider super normie and apolitical, with regards to modern Hollywood media
Even Hollywood writers have actively written that detractor fandoms have started to have an actual word-of-mouth effects upon their bottom lines! With many blame being laid upon the feet of the myriad of anti-woke or chudtubers which had sprung up.
This exchange between @SpookNarca and @eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee best sums it up.
https://rdrama.net/h/vidya/post/307335/sweet-baby-inc-purged-its-client/7151111#context
https://rdrama.net/h/vidya/post/307335/sweet-baby-inc-purged-its-client/7151188#context
NO SPIDERS!
Back to the no Arachnophobia thing
Basically in the past 3 days Biowarefans have been slapping about how this is totally a non issue maaaaaaaaaaan, to this is another straw on the camel's back in terms of redflags
"On it's own, the lack of spiders is not an issue. The problem is quickly becoming all these small things that wouldn't really be an issue "on their own", they add up. No more spiders, only 3 choices (this is an issue on its own), only 2 companions, can't control your companions etc etc etc... DAV is quickly becoming unrecognizable."
"It's a sign that this game is going to have no teeth to it; it's going to be modern Marvel levels of Slop"
"Exactly, people like this would piss and shit themselves if Sten was a companion, or other character like Javik or Regill"
"I'm scared of spiders like most people but this is weird. This reminds me of a mod that replaced spiders with mabari. But they still spawned in by coming down from a web which is way FRICKING scarier than a spider doing that lmao"
<insert eyerolls="" here=""> </insert>
"I'm afraid of water. REMOVE THE OCEANS!!"
"To me this sort of thing raises concerns. These sort of changes feel more like "what we can do to appease the audience" whereas I don't think anyone who is creating a very good story would be worried about that because they know the game/story itself is enough that people will be a part of it and enjoy it regardless. Or it's just one less piece of art they have to design which would be in line with the Keep changes and scaling back scope."
This is especially noticable as ingame characters have joked at the amount of ingame spider enemies killed!
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yes! !coomers
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All true fans of Tolkein know that this is Shelobs true form.
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A REAL SEXY B-WORD !ringbearers
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Would
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Arachnophobic bitches want me
@Spiderman
!friendsofspiderman
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Secretly?
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how hot is the spider?
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!furries Hmm...what do you have to say about this?
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I didn't think it was true until I figured out it applied to most of the local furphobes
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Can they remove all the straggy shit too accomodate those of us with homophobia next time?
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You WILL frick the bear, chud
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Safer than chosing the woman tbh.
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The Bear is the top. This Chud is the one getting fricked.
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Don't make me chud you strag
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Is the arachnophobe lobby truly this powerful?
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DA long had the highest percentage of w*man players among RPGs, so there could actually have been quite a few.
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My best story about being a girl ever: In the Philippines they got these lizards that climb up onto your ceiling. And that's exactly when they're trying too hard and their suction power fails and they fall right into your tits and you get a little bit startled. White girls will never understand.
!pinoypride
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Spiderbros... Time for the SDL...
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It's a false flag by big spider.
###They### want you to see them as oppressed.
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The new WoW expansion has an entire zone of spiders and they included an arachnophobia mode
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!grillers !g*mers !kino
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R-slur alert !downmarseyrs
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!r-slurs
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You are a God among what ever species Brazilians are.
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Wrong,
They kill everything
And it's a good thing
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What if they made BBC porn woke
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It already is, 2024 "mainstream" Amerimutt porn is basically the porn equivalent of Concord and Dustborn, hence why I prefer the pre-2010 vintage Europoor stuff !coomers
https://www.newsweek.com/black-porn-actor-suing-director-after-white-female-co-star-called-him-n-word-932689
YOU CAN DO EVERY SINGLE BODY-DAMAGING SEXUAL ACT YOU CAN THINK OF AS LONG AS IT'S CONSENSUAL, BUUUUT, YOU JUST CAN'T BE HECKIN RACIST IN YOUR DEGRADING FETISH PORN BECAUSE.... BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T OK?, IT'S HECKIN DEHUMANIZING AND PROBLEMATIC!
!moidmoment
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I was a fan, but I eventually grew out of most series I liked because I'm a functional adult
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Wait not even Star Trek?
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I guess someone in the dev team also has boobphobia, or bigassphobia, considering how flat all the women are.
Shameful!
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Must be from all the mastectomies
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Which Madame Tussauds is this at
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Unfortunately it's a real woman.
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I was too busy looking at her tits
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I now understand why foot-binding started in Asia
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Somebody do something, she's not getting enough circulation in those shoes!
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I recently replayed Inquisition, and though I don't think it's a terrible game, I do think it's a long slog. It just doesn't hook you like Origins.
So even if Veilguard's writing won't be shit, and it will, I'm sure it'll be even more bland than Inquisition was. BioWare still had some competent people back then.
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It was so boring. By the time you're in like the third area, most players most players where probably bee-lining the plot to finish the game
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I had the same reaction to Inquisition. It seemed fun for a while, but it was so repetitive that I just stopped bothering to play it anymore at some point.
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Felt like a single player mmorpg.
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I hear this a lot and it always baffles me, most MMOs are que rushes to end game content. Inquisition is just like ubislop.
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The open world only hinders it really.
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Inquisition was good IMO. The thing is there is a TON of side content that feels like a fricking chore.
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They turned it into Borderlands: Dragon Age and should be shot for it.
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Is it so fricking hard to JUST NOT...
Play a game
Watch a Movie
Listen a Song
When anyone involved is:
LGBT
BROWN
LEFTOID
Kindly, shut the frick up.
Thank you, kindly.
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This shit is gonna tank so bad lmao
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It's hilarious because American corpos gave themselves business presentations about how woke will make you rich and reach the incomprehensible new "modern audiences," 2019-2022. This and HR lady taboos got even the dull-witted bean-counter management types totally onboard, no alternative. You can see poor dumbshit company like "Saint's Row" reboot totally banked the entire farm on this dubious, balless horseshit, and lost it all. "Angry Republican Nintendo Nerds" on Youtube can get tiresome, but these companies badly need that "Scared Straight" program. The business presentations were straight-up fraud--"a story people wanted to hear," like they wanted to hear pretty blonde lady with blood company was new Steve Jobs genius.
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I want hedge funds to start suing CEOs over this but I know they'll just point to the bullshit "studies" and claim they were making informed decisions.
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The biggest problem with the game is that they admitted a week ago that there would essentially be no carryover from your previous saves in the other games
To me this was pretty much the only thing that made bioware RPGs unique. That every run you did was YOUR run.
Now it's just generic slop where every choice you made in the previous games will be reconned into not effecting the world at all.
Like what's the point...
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They let you carry over your romance option and that's 90% of what the coomers and woman who are playing dragon age want.
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Struth
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oh wow, is this really why dragon age is still popular? 15 years ago i played the first one and i thought it was pretty good, but the romance simulator stuff annoyed me so much that i mentally checked out and never even looked at a dragon age game again
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Yeah, really put a damper on my inquisition playthrough. I guess i should of saw it coming with how some trespasser end slides contradicted each other.
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In the ME remaster, they let you pick choices you mad if you skip ME1. Do they not have something similar here?
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No, they'll that have for Veilguard. What I mean is that choices you made in previous games will just not have reactivity.
Like lets say you drank from that well (well of eternity? dont remember), conscripted the mages and made Cassandra the Divine in Inquisition. Even if you port that save, none of these choices will change anything that happens or be mentioned at all. If you did literally the opposite of all these choices, nothing will change
Instead, all you choose is this:
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I tried inquisition and couldn't reallly get into it, but this studio is just garbage now lol. I honestly hope they do not attempt another ME game
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They are allegedly making another masseffect game
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Early bird gets the worm in his butt
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But will it have active pause?
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Does Mass Effect's timestop wheel count?
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Is that yes or no?
Many people laughed at you for this but I actually liked that in DA:O, less in sequels that made combat less tactical. And nowadays I largely play total war and paradoxcel games, where you use pause a lot in single player.
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The combat isn't anything like origins now. It's an action RPG were you can pause, but it's solely for using your companions active abilities.
It's just like mass effect, things your party and build don't matter
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Technically, but is basically God of War so...
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We are going to remove everything scary to appease people with every phobia.
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Just gonna leave this here;spiders aren't all bad. !coomers !weebs !anime
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THE WORMS
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???
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I dont remember this from any of the games
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Seriously what the frick is with this shit.
It's like they look for the most r-slurred thing to virtue signal about - we don't have le spiders or you can turn off the spiders because muh arachnophobia. Or we have "disability check" so you can now have vitiligo on your characters. Or we don't have Male/Female but rather Bodytype A/B.
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Bioware needed shutdown years ago
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Inshallah this game will be what makes it happen
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how is a spider on a screen so scary you need a mode to turn it off/just not have it in games
how
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Just like with the mastectomy scars, it has nothing to do with anything meaningful, they're just virtue signaling in the hopes of attracting a wider audience, not realizing this does the opposite.
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if a spider on a screen is that scary I would honestly agree with reddit's default answer: Go to therapy.
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Trigger warning age. Rather than ever be exposed to an unpleasant emotion, they would rather build the thing they dislike up into a bigger and bigger boogieman until they've debilitated themselves completely. Which is more victim points!
Plus of course it's crybullying. Don't exclude me by including things I don't want or you're evil, what you want is irrelevant.
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Im afraid of dragons.
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wimp
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Satisfactory just hit 1.0 and its spiders are amazing, seems like an easy choice.
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The big green ones are so tanky.
I really need to build a factory for those nuke nobelisks lol
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Satisfactory also has an arachnophobia mode
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having a default-off toggle option that turns all the spiders into cat jpegs that meow when you shoot them is a way better design choice than not using spiders
plus satisfactory spiders are actually creepy unlike 99% of video game spiders so I can honestly see some people wanting it. They're like 28-days-later zombies when most games go Romero zombies
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@Losercel If I catch you saying anything good about Dragon Age, we're going to have a conversation. Don't think it's okay just because you're away from home.
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I've never said anything good about Dragon Age in my entire life. I just don't understand why people are so worried that the series will be ruined with the new game as it was never good.
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Have you said enough bad about it tho?
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DAO was like a 6-7/10.
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It was pretty soundly in a 'has potential' zone but then nothing from that point onwards really realized said potential
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@IanMurderdock
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It's going to break records
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I dont really do well with spiders myself, but its a fricking video game lmao
These BIPOCs should play bloodborne if they want to see how spooky spiders can be
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literally unplayable
For real though, if you are so afraid of spiders that you can't play a fantasy RPG, you should just keep yourself safe. The fantasy spider aesthetic is kino.
inb4 they bring back Morrigan, but she's a zany obese back woman who shape shifts into a bear.
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Arachnofile misia.
Gaming is yet to delivere in the fantasy spider s*x department.
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got you fam https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2438-estrus-chaurus-spider-addon-%E2%95%B2-%E2%80%A2%CC%80-%CF%89-%E2%80%A2%CC%81-%E2%95%B1/
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If the skeleton supports node scaling the breasts will enlarge during that time. MCM will auto-configure Estrus Chaurus based on your skeleton and it will be available if the skeleton and body mesh supports it. If this is available, you can set how large the breasts will grow.
You can set how long the impregnation will last.
You can turn on / off impregnation by enabling / disabling the pregnancy option. The tentacle attack will still happen but no impregnation.
You can turn on / off the chaurus eggs hatching by enabling / disabling the Chaurus Infestation option. An impregnated NPC will still lay chaurus eggs. They just will not hatch.
You can choose to have some residual breast growth. Breast size is not returned fully to the original size.
You can remove all impregnation effects from NPCs, Companions & the Player by enabling "Prepare for uninstall" ( this can take a few min. to run).
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Never forget what they took from you.
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Oh so forsen can feel emotions, huh...
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This is the gayest thing thats gotten traction as of late
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Snapshots:
:ghostarchive.org
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https://www.eurog*mer.net/dragon-age-the-veilguard-wont-have-an-arachnophobia-mode-because-it-doesnt-have-a-single-spider:
ghostarchive.org
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/r/saintsrow:
undelete.pullpush.io
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https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/star-wars-lord-of-the-rings-bridgerton-toxic-fans-hollywood-response-1236166736/:
ghostarchive.org
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Kill someone with a sword:
Spiders exist:
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Spiders in computer games is like exposure therapy, with the added bonus of killing them.
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DAO was shit. I hope every character in the new game is trans and from the congo.
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