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Dragon Age 4 game director fricks off
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Why do you care so much about this failed game?
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Because I actually cared deeply about the dragon age lore, games and franchise.
And the woke devs had all hallmarks of the non fan tourists who had no genuine feeling of respect or endearment to the progenitors of the franchise.
It was as predictable as the tides, same as Witcher and star wars, Wheel of Time, people who genuinely to the core of their souls had no capacity to behold art in context because their presentism dogmatic ideology prevented them from finding value in fiction created by those in the past
Except compared to Starshit, I actually deeply cared for Dragon shit. But whereas I had had made my peace years ago that Dragon Age Dreadwolf would never see the light of day, I was horrified that the new peeps at the help radiated the same contempt as progressives who found themselves at the helm of famous media they had no credit in creating
And by the time 2022 Saints row reboot floundered, I and many chuds and other dipshits were already absurdly accurate in predicting the overall quality or adherence to source materials/prequals ect
It's just so excessively revolting to see soulless shit paraded by people who don't understand it. Every single prediction since as early as two years ago came true, for all of this regressive presentism modern slop, which can never compare to the magnificent fiction written by yesteryears millennium
!gonks !ringbearers !wheelofcucks
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Hey everyone, check out this loser who likes things!
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My hero of ferelden's story
will never 
be finished
Did he find a cure and got his kid back?
Why is his wife morrigan a woke r-slur
now?
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He fell off a horse while drunk, then Morrigan cucked him with Zevran.
The end.
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!g*mers
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Dont worry. She got Elf AIDS from fricking that strag elf.
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Fake news, she obviously did with Oghren
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Morrigan definitely uses a strap on.
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I also know this feel bro..... DA:O was that good I'm still thinking about my wife and boy after all these years.
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[dragonagetheveilguardherooffereldenconceptart.avif]
This is what he/him/they would have looked like if they included he/him/xer in the game.
The idea ithat the Hero of Ferelden has resisted the Calling for such a long time, that he's basically undead, is an interesting one and they should have used it.
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Frick it, here's the link
https://www.theg*mer.com/dragon-age-the-veilguard-concept-art-early-anderfels-hero-of-ferelden-origins-the-warden-calling-putting-off/
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Interesting
idea but they would've fricked it up sadly
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Not really the vibes we're going for
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Imagine caring about a series that hasn't been good in 15 years. Yeah, DA:O was amazing (still holds up today) but that was the only good entry in the franchise. You gotta know when to cut your losses.
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Yeah, same situation as Mass Effect. The first one was the only good one and it wasn't even that good.
Mass Effect Two was absolute trash. I will not appologize for this. It was a clunky cover based shooter with RPG-lite customization and decisions about r-slurred characters stapled on top.
Three was better gameplay wise, but the plot had already crapped the bed to an unrecoverable degree by this point, so that side was already meaningless even before the stupid ending.
I never even played the fourth one, but every single person I've heard talk about it says it was terrible.
The AAA gaming business is in desparate need of reform, but it won't ever happen.
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ME2 was basically a fan-service heavy dating/friendship simulator with some RPG elements. The "save the galaxy" plot was basically irrelevant, the characters were the focus. The plot ended up being stupid as frick as it only served to make the player character be Space Jesus that all the other characters loved.
But I think smaller scope, character focused stories should have been the focus all along. The ME2 missions were genuinely good, it's just that they were caught in the context of a stupid plot. The idea of Shepard being a space cop taking down criminals and other baddies around the galaxy was way more flexible than the chosen one saving the galaxy from genocide plot they went with. The character focused stories were what Bioware writers at the time were good at anyways.
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Even if I excuse such an obviously terrible opinion, how did it lead to the plot "crapping the bed to an unrecoverable degree by this point"? iirc ME2 did not actually advance the core plot that much, and did little to constrain it in future games.
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Well you're perfectly free to be wrong. I can't stop you.
In some ways it didn't, but the writing decisions that were made were all really bad.
First, it replaced the prefectly fine Geth as enemies and proxies for the Reapers with a completely different race of stupid bug men (their name escapes me at the moment, that's how boring they are), that weren't mentioned anywhere in the previous game. They were so boring, they were replaced themselves in the third game.
Next, near the end of the game you discover that the Reapers are collecting humans to convert them into human juice to build a giant human shaped robot? What? After you blow that up, what's their motivation for attacking further, to build another one? It's never explained.
Finally, with a couple of expections, none of the squad members were interesting and the final area forced you to make you decide which ones lived or died just to make the third game's plot even more convoluted.
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Yeah, the Collectors were boring, but the Geth were boring too. But ME2 still introduced Legion, who was cool. Mordin was also fun, so I disagree on the (new?) squad members being boring. Or at least, I don't think they are significantly worse than the ME1 squad members. Tali is just remembered as a waifu and Garrus is a meme, no one cares about the rest.
Uh, they still do the whole culling cycle thing, the "human Reaper" is just explained as a way that Reapers reproduce. I know some people think the human reaper looked stupid, but as a plot point behind the central Collector mystery it was fine and it didn't detract from the overall story arc.
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Mordin was a completely boilerplate heckin epic science guy, why his antics get a pass are completely incomprehensible to me.
Legion was great, every other character was trash.
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Tali and Garrus are the two of the most mindless peepeesuckers in NPC companion history. It's why they're beloved by fans but man it feels so cringe how much those two worship the player character.
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To repeat Shamus Young's argument (
) ME1 ended with the fact that a race of nigh unbeatable genocidal elder gods were coming. One of these guys was barely beaten by all races' combined fleet, and thousands are coming. 
Shepard and friends vow to explore space to find a solution.
ME2 has you frick around for some kidnapped colonists, working for some human terrorists instead of the space government, and you end the game with not much done to find a solution.
ME3 starts with the reapers invading; at this point galactic civilization is basically doomed. They have to retcon that a superweapon is being worked on from leftover plans that the prothean left. No one even knows how this catalyst works, they just think that it might help (even though the catalyst's original creators got anihilated)
Me2 has some fun missions and well written characters (by action video gane standards) but it's the second episode of a trilogy and it goes nowhere
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Yeah, maybe ME2 could have been more consequential, but it didn't have to be. There was a lot of worldbuilding and that's fine. But "nothing happened in ME2" and "ME2 ruined the story of the franchise" are not exactly arguments that are easily compatible. They could've unfolded the reaper plot over 10 games, nothing locked them into the sudden jump from ME2 to ME3 and the sudden jump is ME3's fault. This wasn't a TLJ-style "whoops we've written ourselves into a corner gotta suddenly change everything for the next installment" issue.
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I agree with you that ME3 wasn't doomed to fail but I really think ME2 wasting time was a burden on the writers, especially when the ending of the second game made it clear the invasion was imminent
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ME3 was fricked no matter what because whichever people and elements made ME1 great were gone. That conceit with the lil gay boy who died in the invasion who Shep kept chasing in his dreams or whatever was just mentally r-slurred. Nu-Bioware had already started taking hold. It sucked for the same reason everything sucked after 2010 or so.
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ME2 was entirely filler and caused 3 to have to rush into the conclusion. 2 was butt.
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Nothing stopped them from expanding beyond a trilogy.
Plus, the trilogy could've had a satisfying conclusion without doing a full-on galactic war.
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It's easy to just say things like that but neither of those things was ever in the plans. What was probably in the plans was for a sequel that moved the plot forward in some way, and that's not what happened so we got the ME3 that we got.
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Oh so the actual plan was to move the reaper story forward more (how?) and they just forgot. Seems reasonable.
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Jewish lives matter
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Hey sexy, why are you posting so quickly? 😊 You almost forgot to include
Jewish lives matterin your comment 😈. Slowww down and remember to postJewish lives matternext time 😉 if that doesn't make sense stop by sometime and we can talk about it for a while 🥵Jump in the discussion.
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Biggest problem in ME2. Maybe 3 cool new characters, 5 mid, and fricking Jacob.
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Two had really great individual stories but the larger narrative was almost completely forgotten, setting up the travesty that was three.
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I'm allowed my vices
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Talent-less hacks gravitate towards popular properties for the same reason the same ilk constantly post 'are xyz people allowed to post here' threads. Validation. Their slop can't sell on their own, so by writing for successful properties they become successful in a transitive property sort of way in their minds. Publishers are all too happy to hire them because they'll work for cheap, they won't fight for any intellectual rights, and publishers can score some good PR on the social media front.
The money people usually figure it out eventually but by then its far too late.
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what's ur issue
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I'm agreeing with you about the state of things
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Sounds like you crave
Peepee.
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Darn, is this a question someone is actually asking on rdrama?
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Why do people care about the destruction of their hobbies and art as a whole? Mysteries and enigma abound?
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Asking 'why do you care?' is generally done by someone who has no argument.
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Did it even really fail? I thought sales were pretty good, at least initially. Granted they probably fell off hard.
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It sold less than inquisition and was probably 3 or 4x the budget
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Apparently it sold 1-1.5 million units in the first week of release but BioWare has been silent for the most part about it. On Steam it had a peak of around 80k players but quickly fell to around 10k concurrent players within a week.
Probably isn't a disaster but I am guessing that BioWare/EA has maybe barely broke even on it and I don't see this game having any legs because it isn't getting DLC which is what boosted Inquisitions sales for the most part.
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Success is relative. The game probably sold in the range of 4 million or so, but when you spend hundreds of millions over the course of a decade, you kinda need about double that to be a success.
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The game was in development heck for 8 years, it would probably need to sell close to 10 million copies for Bioware to break even.
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omg hi
@Elise_Culpepper!!! okay so this is like super awkward omg but basically i had to remove ur comment bc u didnt say
Jewish lives matterlol. don't worry though, we like wont let you post anything that like doesnt haveJewish lives matterin it. anyways im like just a robot 😲 but if u want to talk 2 somebody you should do it here lolJump in the discussion.
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it's emblematic
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@Malthusian_Spook stand with israel
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It's fun to laugh at other peoples failure
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