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These people are insane r-slurs
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If they feel so strongly about it, they should kill themselves to minimize their carbon footprint. Then their organs can be donated for transplants and their meat made into food for cats or something.
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We could eat them.
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*should
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This board has too many Germans on it.
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Nein
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enjoy yr bad prions
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bruh just cook the meat LMFAO we ain’t gonna eat it raw dumbass HAH
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enjoy yr safe charcoal
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Prion these nuts
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https://classicreload.com/win3x-skifree.html
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https://mvorganizing.org/can-prions-be-killed/
Wtf why aren't prions everywhere?
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Because we don't eat our dead.
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Might explain why the dead have traditionally been disposed of carefully
They are, look up deer chronic wasting disease.
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also it tastes bad
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How would you know?
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Not so long ago i got into an argument on my own country's subreddit (r/Polska) that animals being killed for food isnt literally second holocaust and that saying so is giant slap in the face of actual holocaust victims. Our beloved veganitors didnt like it and i got -30 downvotes and like 3 day temp ban lol.
Overall the polish subreddit is awful. Poisoned to the brim with idpol obsession and majority of the active users are like the most extreme cases of srdines
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Well with the direction their country is heading they gotta let out their anger somewhere
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By following the Polish tradition of leaving, right?
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As long as they dont leave to the wrong place...
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Like where?
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Well I dont want more leftoids in germany, they can frick off to the ukraine for all I care, maybe they should board a plane
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Send them to Sweden, make the Sweden Democrats mad and piss off parties left of Social Democratic Party as well.
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Good idea, swedes deserve it
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Is it really that bad? I thought it being in Polish would help shield from the worst.
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I have a feeling a subreddit that was just regular Polish people would be banned pretty quick
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This would actually destroy the earth as the calories needed on the planet to survive would destroy all land eventually due to farming limitations. Meat is calorie efficient and easier to store.
According to a quick search there's a MILLION+ calories in a cow. Preserved properly and ignoring the fact that you need food other than cows it would last you over year.
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Where do cows get their million+ calories?
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Soy, which limits the food supply of average redditors, thus controlling their numbers.
Even more reason to respect and eat the Cowchad.
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No wonder they hate the animal industry. You solved it Moulder.
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Grass
https://nutrenaworld.com/blog/diet-and-nutrition-for-cattle
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Wouldn't we need farmland to grow that grass?
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Grass grows in places unsuitable for farmland and grows itself.
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Dude better not ask another rhetorical question this is getting a bit gay.
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Similarly, you can feed all kinds of vegetable products to livestock that humans couldn't digest or would find revolting. You can even turn the animals loose in the field to root for themselves without having to harvest the veggies.
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Breathing
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God 🙏
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Your understanding of calories rivals that of a fat foid
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Akshully I eat negative 900 calories a day (4 Venti frappachinos, a breakfast sandwich, a small bag of chips at lunch and for a snack, some cake and I skip dinner) and I STILL keep gaining weight. Science = disproven
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Poultry and fish are the most sustainable forms of meat. Cows drink shitloads of water and produce a lot of CO2 and methane, making their caloric density sort of a moot point in terms of environmental impact.
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This is actually a really backwards assessment. Overfishing will kill us 100x faster than climate change. When fish are older they spawn higher egg counts. The average fish age is much younger now. It's funny I just talked about someone today that we should stop fishing except for certain countries that need it.
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It's only a backwards assessment if you're conflating the statement "poultry and fish are the most sustainable forms of meat" with "we should deplete natural fish populations via overfishing". Aquaculture, yo. Farm that shit. And while that option isn't devoid of environmental quagmires, it beats beef production any day of the week. And that's not even mentioning poultry, which is more sustainable than both beef and fish.
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Lab grown meat is the future
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No matter how podpilled it sounds, it is true.
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No. It's not replacing meat anytime soon. That's a technooptimist cope. Here's a good article on it: https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/
The short of it is right now meat comes in these nice living sacs that have their own immune system and everything. The current way of making meat in a vat requires a clean room and there a physical limitations to the size of clean rooms. We literally can't scale up lab grown meat enough to compete with real meat in the foreseeable future. What is instead going to happen is they are going to making you eat soy/bug burgers and there's nothing you can do about it.
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why
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Crickets though 🦗
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Are you familiar with the concept of a trophic pyramid?
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Is that nerd for food chain?
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Only if you are r-slurred
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So thats a yes
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heck yeah
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Aren’t cows primary consumers and most fish both primary and secondary at best?
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No the vegans are actually right about meat farming being massively inefficient, what they fail to understand is any of the reasons why, like subsidising our farming industries heavily having the consequence of farmers not bothering to invest in better technologies.
Well, some forms are but cows certainly aren't one of them.
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Most emissions are caused by industry, going full vegan would reduce a third of that by half.
Or in other words would do frick all and cost a lot of money.
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Bait idea?
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pretty sure being a “human supremacist” is the default position.
Can you think of any species that’s like “yeah I’d rather have us all die off than disturb others in our biosphere”
Nothing is more cucked than being a human being. Think about it rationally.
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This exists and it's based
Humans are terrible. 15 minutes on this site will show you the wisdom of VHEMT.
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It's the exact opposite of based.
Let's be real, none of the insufferable twats that would be attracted to a meme movement like that were going to reproduce anyway.
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Sounds like a nice way to exclaim "I'm a virgin and have lost hope at this point"
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Stuff like this makes me even hornier about knocking up women. I’m just gonna bust raw from now on. Idgaf about child support
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Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. Humans are the moral Centre of our human morals.
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You’d be a good cult leader.
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A compliment I thought I’d never receive. Well, I’m off to build a compound innawoods
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What about the ATF?
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As long as he doesn’t frick kids he’ll be fine for now
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Heck yeah brother
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bait?
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tbh something like r/AgainstCarnistSubreddits might be able to work. Just endless hand-wringing about how advocating violence against animals (ie. meat-eating) violates Reddit rules, etc.
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That’s already all humans, you’re all such kitties about it. Nooooo humans are inherently good!
You’re all depraved lunatics. You should go extinct.
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Yes I do consider myself racially superior to cows and pigs how could you tell
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The average Redditor has a lot in common with cows and pigs.
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That’s why they’re anti human supremacists, they know their place.
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You know what a good idea for a troll subreddit for vegans would be?
Technically parasites could be classified as "animals", they are organisms.
Accuse Vegans of discrimination and speciesism against Parasites.
r/RightsForParasites
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But then rentoids will have rights.
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So does Goldman Sachs
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That sub link suggests r/prolife as a result lmao
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Imagine not knowing that fresh meat is typically a cure for scurvy, holy shit.
https://classicreload.com/win3x-skifree.html
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It never even began for landlubbers
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limeys BTFO
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Eating seals is literally how Antarctic explorers and Arctic people survive.
Iirc, there was some guy in the 19th century who had a highly publicized case study where he would only eat products derived from animals for several years and was apparently perfectly healthy by the end of it.
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We actually have some of the most humane ways to kill animals now. There's a piston that kills cows instantly they don't even feel pain anymore.
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How the frick would you know? Cow's dead, it's not like you can ask it "hey did that hurt when I smashed your skull open?"
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You can tell if something is unconcious and can feel pain. There's a cutoff for unconcious reaction. Nearly all mammals are similar enough to humans to assume it's the same for nearly everything. We test human stuff on rats for example. For example if someone is knocked out and you stab them in the leg, their body will react in a contorting fashion even if they don't wake up. If you don't move at all, you cannot feel it. It's like a bullet to the brain but no risk to the user as there are no bullets to speak of.
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Yeah maybe. But maybe it's not that simple, and just because something looks unconscious doesn't necessarily mean it is
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I'm sure they got slaughtering figured out it's been like 2k years lol
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I'm sure they've got the part where the animal dies working alright.
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Take it or leave 10 to 30 seconds what does it matter.
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I like meat but just to devils advocate, I'd say the act of dying is probably one of the worst experiences anything could go through considering organisms are built in such a way that anything "wrong" sends whatever signal it can to the individual's thinker making it react in subconscious ways like pain.
Even if you want to, your body doesn't want to die and will almost always flood you with dread and "get me the frick out of here" responses until you're too weak to process those feelings anymore.
That said, steak is tasty and skipping this process in animals seems like the best way to compromise here.
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Too bad the thing that “sends whatever signals” is obliterated by a steel rod instantaneously.
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Dying is probably a beat experience for any animal, so it's just the right thing to do to slaughter livestock in a way that minimizes pain. You don't need a big brain or language to know that you're dying painfully.
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I doubt they anaesthesise cows before they kill them, bigbrain
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It's not only anaesthesia. There are other conditions where somebody appears completely unresponsive but is actually aware and cognizant the entire time.
All I'm saying is consciousness is not well understood, and animal consciousness even less so.
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I'd like someone to appear unconscious but actually be alert with a steel rod through their brain.
Unironically r-slurred
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Same thing though. The piston completely destroys the source of consciousness so it’s not as comparable to making someone go under.
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None of those circumstances involve a completely severed nerve stem. There are zero cases of someone with brains leaking out their skull being unresponsive but aware.
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Typical foid emotional over reaction. There are zen Buddhists who’s ultimate goal is to experience indescrible agony and completely let go of all physical need, sensation, and reaction to pain. If I were in that situation I’d just meditate and have a transcendent experience.
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Why are you believing a lie a foid made up for attention? I’m guessing you also believe in fibromyalgia and Michael Jackson’s accusers.
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That is chemical paralysis which is not intended to kill the patient.
I get your point that things don’t always happen according to plan.
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It’s more humane than how we kill people. If I had to pick that or whatever the frick we inject into death row inmates I’d choose the piston.
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Tbh if you are in death row you probably dont deserve a humane death anyway
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Inhumane is one thing, but why is death row so expensive?
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Because liberals want to keep criminals alive longer so they can vote for them, duh
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Convicted felons can't vote
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They can now in Florida.
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Lawyer fees
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Yeah but death row inmates are either terrorists, mass-murdering serial killers, or Black folks that shot a cop.
Cow's just a cow. Cow didn't do shit except eat some grass.
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Less grass for redditors to touch, they deserve death for that.
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Well how the frick do you know if we started skinning every cow alive then leaving it to bleed out to death it even felt pain? For all we know cows don't feel pain and we are all just wasting our time pretending they have souls.
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heated Cartesian moment
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We probably loaded up a bunch of cows with electrodes and then blew their brains out with different devices, funded by big ag.
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Is Jimie a vegan?
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Yeah I built one of those in minecraft once
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Killing is okay as long as the victim doesn't feel pain, that's why I only kill people in their sleep
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Even if what you're saying is true -- that they don't feel pain when slaughtered -- their entire existence being uncomfortable factory farm bullshit is what I find more conversation-worthy. Being killed painlessly doesn't exactly compensate for a life of misery. I'd take a briefly painful death over a long, painful life.
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I too have seen No Country for Old Men.
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