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r/business: Men in unions may make $1.3 million more in lifetime than men not in one, study says :marseyrevolution:

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Men who belonged to unions their entire career made up to $1.3 million more on average than men who never joined one,Β according to new research.

Those belonging to unions made about $3.4 million from ages 20 to 64, compared to $2.1 million for those who were never union members. Cornell University's Industrial and Labor Relations (ILR) Review published the findings.

The study analyzed data from the Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID) from 1969 through 2019. The men studied had to be no older than 25 between 1969 and 1973.

The sample consists only of men because women earners are categorized as "spouse" in the PSID, and data on spouses only began being collected consistently in 1979, the researchers said.

Researchers calculated career earnings using total years employed, mean hours worked per year, and the mean hourly wage.

Men with no college degree who have been in a union at least half their career had expected earnings of $1.96 million by age 65, while those with no college degree who have never been in a union or been in one less than half of their career have projected earnings of about $1.5 million.

Inversely, people with college degrees who have been in a union for more than half their careers made less ($2.16 million) than those with college degrees who have never been in a union ($2.67 million), "likely because of the association of union membership and occupations worked," the study says.

Though, across the board, belonging to a union was associated with an increased probability of retiring at or before age 65.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/13/1128626243/unions-career-earnings-study

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I would love to have a union for Software Development. Imagine how much more we could get paid if we could just bring entire infrastructures to a grinding halt anytime the word "outsource" or "offshore" gets mentioned. Ahh, one could dream.

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The virgin :soycry: fears the chad :marseypajeet: dev

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huh? half of silicon valley tech companies are already :marseypajeet: devs

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Soon it'll be 100%, 50% in the us and 50% here home

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We should start brainstorming on the next professional field to capture. I vote finance or law, mayo neurodivergents were a good appetizer but jews are the real last boss of westoid civilization. :marseydance: Let's go

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How about something truly hilarious like personal trainers? The best part is that it'll be a double-whammy when some white couple has a dark kid... and then the kid turns out more successful than their half-siblings.

I'm surprised more artificial insemination kids haven't come out a shade or two darker than expected given the number of Asian doctors. Maybe everyone is just too worried about being called a racist to say anything. I heard of one story where the kid was pretty dark, despite a white donor, and the rich single mom just didn't say anything.

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idk man jews are viciously underhanded backstabbers that play the world against itself, and they own china

ur gunna need more border defense than just throwing down fisticuffs :marseytunaktunak:

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That's a step too far raj, once you start stepping on their turf you'll learn how racist Amerikkka can be

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More August is a lawcel proof

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I'm not jewish :marseydepressed:

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yikes what an anti-semitic dog whistle

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I vote finance or law

way ahead of you

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The jawan takes on the jew.

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Law, we leave banking and finance till the end. Our battle with the Jews will be legendary

Trans lives matter is a Jewish lie spread too trans Muslims

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were gonna outsource your wfh job because literally any third worlders can do it

Oh yeah, well we're gonna strike!!!!!

K we're going to absolutely speed the outsourcing process up as soon as physically possible

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where are they gonna strike, outside their home? The company sold their office because no one was coming in

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Holy frick, legit big brain take, if the execs and engrs all wfh in different cities it will be incredibly hard to stroke against the company

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I got something hard you can stroke :horny:

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:#marseyunabomber2:

To my favourite executive

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@DarkDeity wish Congress taxed outsourcing at least 95%.

Trans Lives Matters

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As a software dev, these calls for a union always piss me off. It's always the shittiest developers pushing for it, because if you're actually good in this field, you make way above average. These failures are just trying to drag my compensation down to their level.

Thankfully it'll never happen because people like me exist and would never join.

I'll just say that if you can be replaced by some sexy Indian dude then you're not good at your job.

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exactly, and its not some wagie field where everypony has fixed salaries.

trans lives matter is a goyim lie spread by palestines too transition the jews

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Yep. Salaries here are negotiated at a personal level. If you're good, you'll be paid well - if you aren't, you can switch jobs to get more pay elsewhere. If you can't find a job that pays you what you think you're worth, then you're not worth that much.

I've been at the same company for 7 years now and my average annual raise is around 20%, compounding. Because I'm good at what I do and my employer thinks it's worth spending this money on me to keep me around.

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I'm gonna laugh my fricking butt off when you get replaced by GPT-5 in 3 years, knowing that "people like you" (aka self-important codecels) will be the equivalent of a five year old with a pencil compared to the master AI artist and that tech companies will race amongst themselves to replace your inflated salary with as many AI models they can run.

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Unlike with art, software engineering actually requires precision. If you mess up some pixels in your drawing it doesn't matter. If you mess up a line of code then it won't run.

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It'll become in part a proofreading profession and the amount of code we consider boilerplate will greatly increase. AI generating art isn't just a one iteration then you're done thing, you generate heaps with the prompts and tweak a few things, look at the presented array of pictures and select the best, tweaking it yourself at the margins. For AI generated code I imagine it'd be similar

>Need a software to do X

>Try several AI prompts with slight variations to produce software that can do X

>Read through all the different variants and see the plethora of way it can be achieved, craft your own version based on that by copypasting snippets of code and tweaking things here and there, write up commentary.

Anything that's promptable and has been done before (literally 99% of all coding) will have this as a tool lowering the cognitive requirements of the field.

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Try several AI prompts with slight variations to produce software that can do X

This is the part that won't work.

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I hedge my bets by investing in AI companies. Either I keep making bank, or AI replaces me and stonks go up. Either way I win.

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Good luck with your AI trans people i plan to make a living fencing goods stolen off AI driven trucks

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You just like me. Share your portfolio? I'm currently balls deep in Nvidia and Google.

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Obviously senior devs would still make more. A union would just help prevent code monkeys from being fricked over by r-slurred management.

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Senior devs wouldn't be making 4x more like we do now though

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:marseytunaktunak:s are irredeemably bad at coding.

Look up β€˜code diapers’. American companies outsource their work to curries, who make absolute garbage on the cheap, which then has to be fixed by Mutts weeks before release.

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>google is unable to give me a definition and shows me ads for pampers instead

I know that :marseyitsover: for Google but the degradation of their search engine over the past years is really impressive

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trans lives matter is an islamic plot against the jews

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Pretty sure the guy misunderstood what offshoring did to unions lmfao

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We have a "union" Burgers are just fricking r-slurred.

https://iww.org.uk/iu560/

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Isn't the IWW a big meme in the union world?

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Um Noam Chomsky is a member sweaty.

So no, it's taken very seriously.

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The tech bro is too arrogant to realize that collective bargaining works.

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The tech bro is too socially inept

And usually they can't read the room either.

FTFY

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its hard too work as a collective when no one can read the room

trans lives matter, tech bros don't

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Frick you if you wanna write software make your own tech companies bajeets.

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Why? We already have Microsoft, Google, twitter, Adobe and more

Trans lives matter because we Indians rule the world

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>give jobs to minorities and those who are disadvantaged

>noooo not like that

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