Former head of Twitter trust & safety, Yoel Roth, wrote 300 page dissertation about how kids should be allowed on Grindr

https://x.com/faayete/status/1594313751741845505

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/60981d118b006454de9222b2/61d364a68536fc3f5cf77933_Roth-Dissertation.pdf

Yet, absent from these discussions is even a cursory recognition that the new medium of gay-targeted social networking may be a crucial social outlet for gay, bisexual, and questioning youth. While gay youth-oriented chat rooms and social networking services were available in the early 2000s, these services have largely fallen by the wayside, in favor of general-purpose platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and Snapchat. Perhaps this is truly representative of an increasingly absent demand among young adults for networked spaces to engage with peers about their sexuality; but it’s worth considering how, if at all, the current generation of popular sites of gay networked sociability might fit into an overall queer social landscape that increasingly includes individuals under the age of 18. Even with the service’s extensive content management, Grindr may well be too lewd or too hook-up-oriented to be a safe and age-appropriate resource for teenagers; but the fact that people under 18 are on these services already indicates that we can’t readily dismiss these platforms out of hand as loci for queer youth culture. Rather than merely trying to absolve themselves of legal responsibility or, worse, trying to drive out teenagers entirely, service providers should instead focus on crafting safety strategies that can accommodate a wide variety of use cases for platforms like Grindr β€” including, possibly, their role in safely connecting queer young adults.

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I know the minds of totally not rightoids among us :marseysus: instantly jump to "THEY WANT TO DUCK KIDS" but you need to see the broader context - for many liberals and leftists, restricting people's autonomy is the worst crime you can commit.

That's how you get people letting homeless camp on the streets and leaving them covered in shit and needles, people furious about drug restrictions, I've seen leftist advocate for normalizing s*x in public etc. Just pure brain rot where people need to have freedom to do anything, consequences be darned.

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Except own guns

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The types of naive advocates you describe create an environment where bad actors like pedos are free to operate, so to me it's a distinction without much of a difference.

That said I like your insight that some progressive advocates are like right wing libertarians (the political kind) where they'll advocate for pure individual freedom even if it degrades the freedoms and health of the group :marseythinkorino:

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some progressive advocates are like right wing libertarians

They are! It extends even to thing like plastic surgeries or train shit where they want near unrestricted access to hormones and surgeries. Or, perhaps the best example, "s*x work".

0 concern how showing yourself online to nasty horny moids can affect you. Push for legalization of prostitution, not considering how they're gonna get more women when demand increases.

Usually you get a cope like "studies show the demand doesn't go up :soyjakanimeglasses:" or "they're only bad in the capitalist heteronormative patriarchy". In luxury gay space communism, stepping on needles in a park, taking 3 peepees in the butt on camera or bogmaxxing will all be good!

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>bad actors

:#soyquack:

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there's a reason social liberalism is promoted by major corporations and media while the economic programs are DOA.


:#marseydarkpizzashill: The Democratic RethugliKKKan Party will collapse by 2030. :#marseydarkpizzashill:

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As a libtard I'm seething that it is a particularly illiberal form of "social liberalism" being advocated.

For exemple the freedom of speech and thought that liberals struggled so long for is not in a healthy place

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So freedom for everything except trunks honking? It's weird for these people to advocate for stuff like public s*x but draw the line at a guy using the wrong pronouns on twitter

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No ideological framework is fully consistent tbh, hard to criticize that too much.

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libertarianism is probably the most consistent ideology and it's a nightmare. Perhaps ideology should fit humans rather than the other way around.


:#marseydarkpizzashill: The Democratic RethugliKKKan Party will collapse by 2030. :#marseydarkpizzashill:

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I'm gonna go on a limb and say "allowing pedos free reign" being lower of a problem than "chuds publicly talking chuddery" IS NOT hard to criticize, personally

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Yes when it's white women saying it. It gets a lot more :marseysus: when it's a gay man saying it. Compare to strag advocating that teen girls should go to night club.

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I don't read it as "They want to frick kids" so much as "They want kids to frick." It's normal that teenagers have s*x, but adults directly trying to set up anonymous teenage hookups is repulsive at best and opens the door to :marseypedo: infiltration. There's a sexual ideological component here deeper than just individual freedom.

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I think most of it ultimately comes back to any sort of restriction to people's "autonomy" being frowned upon, but not inaccurate. Reminds me of someone in NY State(?) wanting to change s*x ed curriculum to being "pleasure based and queer friendly".

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I dont think it even is that deep, i think they just think about what they wanted when they were that age, with a heap of projecting their current wants. When they wrre kods, they were terminally horny and now are terminal coomer, not to mention being gay was actually still frowned upon when they were teens. But they dont realise the positive aspects of their own upbrining, only what they think was missing. So they want s*x ed to focus on pleasure and bussy blasting because its what they didng get, but they dont realise how they benefitted from learning about condoms etc.

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for many liberals and leftists, restricting people's autonomy is the worst crime you can commit.

Except that's not the case at all? They cheer if someone is expelled/fired/assaulted/murdered for saying BIPOC or committing a similar sin, they want to ban guns, they want to ban religion, they supported lockdowns, they want to and effectively have banned you from publishing books if you're a normal White guy. Their biggest cause is being allowed to kill babies, nothing more autonomy denying than death.

Like someone else mentioned below, they don't want people with the wrong opinions to be allowed to protest, see the Honkocaust or the Dutch Farmers.

How you've framed it is how they want people to view them: the reality is that libtards are just authoritarian hedonists.

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What world do you live in? Libtards don't want to ban guns, they want common sense gun reform. They don't want to ban religion, they want to keep religion out of government. They supported lockdowns because people were dying by the thousands and something needed to be done to stop the spread of a deadly virus. They don't want to kill babies, they want women to have autonomy over their own bodies. And they don't want people with the wrong opinions to be allowed to protest? That's literally the entire point of protesting, to have your voice heard even if your opinion is unpopular.

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Holocaust 2? Nay, merely jewish chad reform :marseytroublemaker:

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We don't need any more of your "common sense." We need real, progressive reform that will actually make a difference in people's lives.

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Agreed :marseytroublemaker:

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Why are you agreeing with me? Do you not have a brain of your own?

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:marseybrainlet: shut up

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Did someone ask you to speak? No? Then shut YOUR mouth.

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That virus was made in a Chinese lab funded by american money because that sort of research was banned in america. Educate yourself robot

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Umm, no. The virus was not made in a Chinese lab funded by American money.

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Propagandist

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Well, if by "propagandist" you mean "effective communicator," then I guess I'm a propagandist.

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Cry more pinkoid

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Pink is superior.

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No one crying about libs being big bad meanies :marseycrying: can be considered superior

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Fine, I'll genocide them instead of using my words. Happy?

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Your problem here is lumping liberals and progressives into the same group.

Your rightoid brainrot tells you there are only two teams, but look deep into your heart and you will realize the guy who wants to buy amphetamines on amazon hates the guy who wants a tax on any book written by a white person.

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Liberals and progressives are the same, actually. Same with conservatives and alt-right. It's just about being open about your beliefs. No meaningful % of libtards oppose the things I mentioned, the vast amount will vocally support all of it.

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Well that certainly makes politics easier, I'll give you that.

Have you considered the fact that most people are tribal r-slurs with no meaningful beliefs?

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That's true, but those people all still call themselves something.

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So perhaps your assessment, that there are only two types of politics, is due to that fact that your country currently has two tribes.

You might find that those people who have tangible thoughts will be much more diverse in their political views.

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For sure! We are severely polarized right now. In a functioning society there would be more shades of grey. Right now more people than ever are pushed to the extremes and nobody is willing to compromise. This will of course be solved once we ship the nigs back to Africa

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True, americans do seem oddly enchanted by black people, on both sides of the spectrum.

I'm not sure if getting rid of them would solve the problem, or just make you start obsessing over some other brown person though.

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It’s only for Pervy, degenerate shit. They go full authoritarian when there’s a bad cold going around

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