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History-cels despair as their faculty numbers plummet:marseyfeynman::marseynietzsche::marseypharaohcat:

https://twitter.com/BretDevereaux/status/1603885980154531840

As you'd expect, of course someone brings up domination of leftoid/radlib ideologues as the reason for pushing people away.

It was evident two decades ago that academic historians were hollowing out their profession by elevating ideology & fads over the needs of students, public & long-term interests of univ & discipline. These figures are sad but reflect a generation of professional irresponsibility.

And it predictably it casues seethe from a lot of totally not leftist History-cels including a POC historian who says it's due to lack of funding.

This is a completely incorrect account of why the discipline declined in the academy. Historyโ€™s demise reflects the financialization of higher education & the decline of public/private support for humanities research. It has nothing to do with โ€œideology.โ€

Yeah "financialization". History in the past was a field where some talented polymath did all the research as a hobby. There's a very good reason why most people aren't interested in funding mediocre ideologues and their rants.

Goes on a long screed about how it's "finance capitalisms" fault while simultaneously arguing about how they should've convinced more billionaires to donate for their """"""research"""""".

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Some dude suggests offering more military history courses which would be cooler and that doesn't go well.

The popularity of history podcasts show this is self-inflicted. Why don't more colleges, for example, offer military history?

Terrible take. Podcasts are entertainment that might be informative on the side.

And you get +++ military history when studying a specific region/era.

But one teacher canโ€™t cover โ€œevery cool battle in all of historyโ€ with anything like depth or intellectual integrity.

Anyway. Lots of copium in there as they witness the slow decline of their field.

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>noooo we need to preserve western culture and history :naziseethe::!naziseethe:

>Haha the humanities? Frick that. :!chudsey:

The duality of chud

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Humanities could be based, if they weren't entirely saturated by leftoid parasites who turned them in to pseudosciences. It's unsalvageable.

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There are tons of conservative/centrist historians it's just that most focus on writing actual academic works not posting hot takes on twitter.

Funnily enough in actual academic spaces things like Marxist historiography have actually fallen out of style pretty thoroughly and it's actually a methodology probably more represented on twitter then anywhere else.

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Marxist historiography have actually fallen out of style

Come to brazil (any thirdie country really) and youll see thats not true

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Should have specified Anglophone academic spaces. :marseyqueen::marseyira::marseyaustralian::marseyflagnewzealand::marseypatriot::marseyflagcanada:

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Thats not Marxist historiography though, thats just being a leftoid

The last time Marxist historiography was popular in the west was like 1992 and the sole area where they did any good work was in studying enclosures and peasant revolts in early modern England

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Monthly review is like the gold standard of Marxist thought in the west. These are the people who do research on peasant revolts and enclosures and such.

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I didnt mean the publication, I meant that particular article. I just skimmed it but it looks like its just boring econ history mixed with leftoid sneed. Doesnt even have buzzwords smh

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Arenโ€™t Brazillian historians mostly coke heads who spent most of their time nailing their big-bootied students?

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Not true, some are weedheads

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Can you blame them?

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Anywhere that copes and sneeds in the world will still believe in dependency theory, the academic equivalent of the tribesman thinking the guy with more yams used black magic trickery to take them from his garden.

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Structuralism and CEPAL as a whole are like malignant tumor on Latin American economics

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What's wrong with structuralism?

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Oh, you're talking about the nonsense that led to import substitution policy. Yeah, frick that noise.

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They exist but they have to tiptoe around leftoid hegemony. Take the word primitive for example. It was a good term for all pre civ people but now its been effectively outlawed. Use it and someone will call you problematic

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Itโ€™s primitive basically saying ape like? Like a primate? Very problematic sweetie, pls do better

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:marseybrasileiro:

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Marxist historiography

Marx has almost nothing to do with the modern left. Rightoids stop fighting the last war challenge (impossible).

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Imagine not celebrating your ancestors being based as frick and destroying their enemies, taking land, etc

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I think itโ€™s cool my ancestors ruled the world for a few hundred years (and still today) but obviously keep that to myself. Itโ€™s like my grandad was a frickin marvel super villain

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There's a reason that happened and only woketarded yuppies get a monopoly on culture now.

Also a lot of rightoid arguments feel hollow and disingenous when every other one is trying to get into a tech job in the same globohomo megacorps they whine so much about.

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Not entirely. Rightoids were the ones who populated the place hence the avtistic studies on some tribe somewhere by an Anglo on a picnic. And the digging up of history, literally

At some point post WW2 we decided to let whiny arabian and curry postcolonialcels. Burger lolberts cashed in true.

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at some point last century everyone kinda convinced themselves that nothing but engineering was worth pursuing anymore and that smart people only study stem, we are witnessing the results of decades of decay and brain drain in culture coming from that mentality.

Sillicon Valley is the worst from both worlds, neurodivergent stemcels trying to do social engineering and drugged out morons pushing their r-slurred theories from decades of internal rot in academia.

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The thing that birthed STEM worship was the US was falling behind the Soviet Union in space. And the recent resurgence is because of 2008, when a frickton of humanities majors realized their degree was useless because they werenโ€™t born multimillionaires.

The problem with anything these days isnโ€™t normal/smart people doing STEM, itโ€™s that the super smart people realized you could make a lot of money in finance and business. So Americaโ€™s Julius Caesars run stock simulations instead of governments.

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STEM should just be called TE because there's just too many broke Biology and Chemistry graduates now. Everyone gives the arts shit for trying to latch on with STEAM, but Science has been freeriding for a long time.

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Too generous to engineercels. If you want to make money T is the only letter that matters.

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Someone doesn't know what a quant is (or many engineering jobs for that matter)

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Why you dissing math bro we ainโ€™t even do anything :marseysob:

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Sounds like the focus on becoming extremely rich is the problem. Too bad that's considered the ultimate virtue in this country

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The private sector in America has completely destroyed our public capabilities. No point working for the government when Blackrock pays 25x what they do

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I loves researching history in college. I did an entire paper on Sgt. Stubby and then, when I ran out of information on him, covered other war hero animals.

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This is what history in universities could have been like :marseydepressed:

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Old Abe The Eagle was the greatest American Eagle.

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@TED_SIMP is this true?

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idk

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Bird โ€œexpertโ€ smdh

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GODDAMMIT that bird was a national icon. That bird had a rendezvous with destiny. It's amazing that you're this insensitive during the Christmas/Siege of Bastogne Season.

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sorry

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Itโ€™s because academics humanities are more focused on having s*x with modernity vs having s*x with the past. Everyone just getting so hyped up on the cutting edge, invented yesterday pseudosciences and so they donโ€™t really care about anything else. If more people cared about the beauty/mystery of the past it would be different

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Learning about the past is fricking gay

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And being gay is based so :marseyhomofascist:

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I do find how people at the past think of science and nature extremely interesting. Or maybe weapons too. But not war.

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๐Ÿšจ Straggot alert ๐Ÿšจ

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What would you rather learn about? Hype modernity is not making many people that much more happy or enlightened

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I'd rather learn about history, I was just shitposting

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You're implying current humanities actually "preserve" history instead of inserting their own postmodern shit take on it.

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postmodernism is exactly what happens if you let only the biggest r-slurs have complete control of the humanities for over 50 years

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Postmodernism has allowed for a ton of r-slurs to become rich and famous but its development was basically unavoidable and complaining about it is an r-slur trap.

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Whatโ€™s the difference?:marseyhmmm:

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If you think modern humanities preserve any part of western culture and aren't just post-modernism bug camp, I have a bridge to sell you.

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