Background
With the start of the upcoming thirteenth season of Riot's classic MOBA game League of Legends tomorrow the community is split upon the argument if Riot is even actively developing new content for the game or rather dragging the game over the line relying on the success of their other popular games namely Valorant and Wild Rift or on the fantastic animated series Arcane. As recent developments in League's history featured a trite pre-season, a new provider for the very important SEA region and the departure of a beloved host (not sjokz so doesn't matter) of the LCS coupled with switching the schedule of the aforementioned professional league to a completely inaccessible time slot in the afternoon, people are concerned about the future of the game in the west. It's hard to gauge actual facts as Riot doesn't release their numbers but from the eye test alone you'd immediately come to the conclusion that League of Legends is heading south. While many people (casual and professional g*mers) have said this for a long time now, the recent developments have made things much worse and I'll tell you why:
Not officially announcing the start of the season until a couple days prior
While this tweet offers a timetable of the season start for each major and minor region you'd think it's kinda weird for a game of this size to not have a concise and clear answer until 2 days before the season start. Players had to figure out the exact date for the start of the season for weeks prior relying on vague he-said-she-said information on twitter or other inherently unreliable sources.
The fact that we have to find out like this after deducing the fricking SEASON START like Hercule fricking Poirot is utterly ridiculous
again we have to look for it on twitter, nothing in the client etc. its so fking disgusting
Is the new events tab we got for no reason (that is entirely more clunky than the event rewards page being in your rewards tab) not enough for you? You think they could somehow manage fixing the client and adding useless shit no one asked for at the same time lol? Nah, they only had the manpower to shift the events page to its own clunky tab that you can barely see more than 2 rows worth of cosmetics in.
Just be thankful that useless new events page didn’t end up breaking the client further, we could have lost the entire runes page as a result of adding that new tab.
And the official insta has a countdown with 12h in their story, some say the new ranked season already started in Korea. I just don't know anymore...
For some reason Riot already started the season and Korea and had to reset all already played games (see here for example).
Not following up on their promises
This headline is intentionally chosen to be opaque mainly due to the fact that I am incapable of finding all broken promises but here are some prime examples of Riot failing to deliver:
Removing Smurf Queue: SmurfQ was a method Riot used in the previous season to combat the menace of smurfs (stronger players playing on new/stolen/friends' accounts against weaker players) in ranked games although they failed to figure out how to remove previously inactive account from this queue meaning if you were a returning player (or any other player with a high discrepancy between your MMR and your rank) you'd end up in full smurf lobbies which was an absolutely miserable experience over and over again. Some people claim it took them tens if not hundreds of games to finally be out of smurf queue and play against people on their skill level. As this was obviously not fun for either the returning players or the plethora of next Fakers in smurf queue Riot decided to just remove the system making smurfs appear in regular ranked matches again. See here or here for further discussion.
Failing to release the new VGU: As League of Legends is quite old now a lot of the older heroes are not capable of keeping up with the power creep of the latest releases making them obsolete and quite frankly incredibly unfun. Riot combats this by updating older heroes to new standards either via a visual or a gameplay update; sometimes even combining both of them for a visual and gameplay update. As a token of goodwill Riot offered players the choice of which hero gets this desired upgrade and the community voted for Skarner who is as one-dimensional as Salvador sperging out about the Ukranian-Russia war. I think he won the poll about a year ago but nothing has been done and the community is quite sceptical about Riot failing to deliver yet again here
From the sound of it they still haven't decided what visual design road to take him in, which sounds really odd at this point.
But we don't know when this was recorded so maybe something changed since then?
I legit think they didn't expect him to win so they didn't even have any plans made.
Honestly I feel like they have no idea how to tackle him which iirc that’s why they didn’t rework him before either
This article talks about an update for this long-awaited VGU that's planned for Skarner but it's still mind-boggling how Riot is simply incapable of doing this in an acceptable time frame.
Other hero updates: Some announcements of older heroes receiving 'ASU', 'midscope' or other minor updates to make them more accessible received mixed reactions and I'm frankly too lackadaisical to write about that here but if you're interested Jax, Rell and Ahri are some of these.
Balance issues: Insert some g*mer seethe abour role/champion/item/team/region being too strong/too weak/too unfun/too fun/too hard/too easy see here: Recently people have come to the adc subreddit and demanded evidence and facts, and with Phreaks tweet., here: Riot Phroxzon follow up comments from the videos (includes ADC satisfaction, healing outliers and more) or here: Isn't the amount of damage riot lets tanks do a bit excessive?
ARAM changes; All Random All Mid is a fun mode in all MOBAs in which players are assigned random heroes to battle it out in a straightforward lane without any depth or strategy. Basically the mode for casuals or people who just want to relax. However Riot updated the mode to make it incredibly unfun and players are NOT happy at all:
The update didn’t ruin ARAMS, you just forgot what the gamemode is all about. [600 comments]
The current state of ARAM balance is an absolute mess. [680 comments]
ARAM Champion specific buffs are borderline insane [600 comments]
ARAM is dead to me [1500 comments]
The game most just feels so awful now. The aram balance adjustments feel awful and the new tower falling/death times feel terrible as well. One of my favorite champions, ashe, is forced to not go adc, while Leblanc gets broken modifiers because iron players suck at her. No aram adjustment should go past 5% in my opinion. Yes some champs will be better than others but at least I don't have to scroll down a list every pre game to see what champs are currently neutered. I can't believe we didn't get nexus blitz so they could further ruin this abomination of a game mode. Goodbye aram I'd rather play weakside top lane then waste another minute wallowing in the filth that is ARAM.
ARAM seems less "for fun" with the recent changes [800 comments]
The failure of the 2023 cinematic
The absolute bomb Riot dropped was the travesty of the newly released cinematic. Despite releasing a couple of hours prior to this post it has already gathered more dislikes and negative comments than all other cinematics combined:
On Youtube:
Alexcx: the cinematic perfectly depicts the state of game: uneventful and below expectations [+15100]
Maple: I can't help but to feel sad about this, honestly. Cinematics were the only thing that NEVER disappointed from riot, yet here we are... [+2000]
Tren Status: After the 2022 cinematic, I can't even begin to explain how DISAPPOINTING this year's is [+6500]
On Twitter: (a lot of people working in the league bubble are disappointed)
https://x.com/LeagueOfLegends/status/1612736707220369408
https://x.com/viennavtuber/status/1612738189206376448: Darn :/ after last years "The Call" which was the certified banger of all bangers I really feel like yall gave up on League 😞
https://x.com/Nanal0l/status/1612769755429015553: I thought this was the riot mmo trailer 😞 dont feel the league hype energy from this
https://x.com/YamatoMebdi/status/1612786317003493377: Nah this better not be it
On Reddit:
Is that it?
1 year for the intern to drop their realistic render of the rift and voice a few lines
Fantasticaly underwhelming. I hope this is the biggest dissapointment I'm gona suffer this year.
I admit, after last year "The Call" my expectations were high as heck but witnessing this shit that was goo in 2012 at best probably summs up the issues the game faces and probably make community realises why the voices calling the game "maintenance mode" are louder than ever.
Pre season was already dissapointing enough with core gameplay issues around itemisation is still unfixed ever since new system from S11.
Feels like everything I/WE loved about this game slowly getting tossed aside by every year. :(
It has 8.1k dislikes and 2022 cinematic with 143 million views has 8.3k lmao. Took 1 hour to get the same amount of dislikes.
If this is the future of cinematics for league, I just hope they stop doing them at all. This was so cheap and disappointing wtf. Dislikes are deserved imo.
It's so bad I'm confused - it quite literally looks like a Riot cinematic from 10 years ago, complete with the odd plasticky graphics, and focus on the Summoners/Summoner's Rift instead of the actual world of Runeterra
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10866a8/lets_discuss_the_cinematic/
My personal opinion? Worst cinematic ever. 0 Lore progression, 0 Hype. I don’t know what they thought creating this. After the call, this is probably the painful awakening. It feels like Platin Peter‘s motivational speech to his duo mate, that they will win dia promos this time.
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10866a8/lets_discuss_the_cinematic/j3qh2g1/
Dash got sacked to make more budget for THIS???
Lil Nas X catching some strays:
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10866a8/lets_discuss_the_cinematic/j3qfwxd/
The shit that happens when you blow your entire budget on lil nas x
Except the 2023 budget is supposedly the biggest yet so there’s no excuse
his music isn't even mid
why did they even pick him?
the worlds song sucked so fking hard and now this?
Why did they pick a gay black singer to design a skin for a gay black character in a season in which they're trying to promote inclusion?
Summary and further discussion
Go to the League subreddit and I bet you that at least 75% of all posts are complaining about something. It's also honestly fascinating how some posts on this subreddit with millions of subscribers are on the frontpage with less than 100 upmarseys. Some further threads that complain about the state of the game:
Where has Riot's passion for League gone?
'Events' nowadays are just an excuse to get players to buy an event pass. We're lucky if we get a visual novel with it.
Riot's skin philosophy seems to have shifted to "quantity over quality". This is apparent when looking at the Zenith Games skins, Battle Boss Bel'Veth, and skin lines that champions have been forced into like SG and SB.
Champion teasers are something we have to ask for nowadays. I guess Riot doesn't really care about hyping up players for champion releases anymore. But why would they if everything gets leaked anyway nowadays, right?
This year's season start cinematic was terrible. No champions, no nothing, just a render of Summoner's Rift.
Is this the same company that released K/DA, the Annie: Origins cinematic and TFT as passion projects? The same company that made event gamemodes like Odyssey: Extraction and PROJECT: Hunters?
The same company that decided to focus on champion reworks for like a year because they realized that a lot of champions are outdated? Now 'midscope updates' are the new hot thing.
Valo, MMO , project L.. Riot has new favourite child/children.
This is called corporate complacency and is a well known cycle in every industry. It's an issue fundamentally of profit-focused business management culture prioritizing revenue milking over the fundamentals of their original success and consumer unwillingness to punish this behavior.
I nominate the Pokemon company and game freak if you want to see the worst example. 100 man team for game dev reusing assets and can't make a triple a game on a modern console, massive profits. By comparison a game like Warframe has 500 employees.
Do we have to be scared? Are they reducing the budget of League so much?
Ahri took 300 years and she looks identical
Skarner is still in the early CONCEPT stage
Champions are getting post-poned left and right
No new events announced for 2023
Valorant getting better cinematics for a SKIN BUNDLE
Wild Rift getting so many exclusive (and high quality) skins
THAT SORRY EXCUSE FOR A "CINEMATIC" FOR SEASON 2023
What is happening to League? Are they reducing the budget of the game so much? Are we going towards some kind of maintenance mode or something?
I know it seems soon to cry wolf, but all these things together made me really worried for the future of League.
As a former Heroes of the Storm player, I must say that this feels very familiar.
League is the older sibling and the parents dont care about them anymore. All the younger children is getting the attention now.
That's how life often works. Times change.
League is basically running in a skeleton crew compared to 2015-2017.
I mean I remember the gangplank event. the OG Oddysey event and a bunch of stuff like that. the mass reworks that even if annoying af made the game fresh.
anyone who says otherwise its just willfully ignoring facts.
we have gotten the same content the last 2-3 years that we woulve previously gotten in 1 season.
Idk how most ppl don't realize this. We been running on fumes for a while now. I feel like anybody with a shread of wanting to do something diffrent went to TFT.
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All of their best people are on other games. Valorant, TFT, and Runeterra are all fantastic. I'm sure they've got all of their resources pointed at the MMO, too. I guess they figure that League can take care of itself while they flesh out their portfolio.
My guess: Most of LoL Devs moved to the MMO. LoL now only exists to fund the MMO so there will be huge budget cuts while trying to make as much money as possible (thats why there are 2 season resets now, they want us to play nothing but LoL and buy lots of skins).
Personal opinion
'No king rules forever and the times they are a-changin' said the preacher. It's all vanity in the end, isn't that right?
Also please try to NOT make fun of me for writing all of this I'm sensible o-okay
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Isn’t this game like 10 years old
How are people still playing it
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I remember when it first came out and I was wanting to get my dota fix so I downloaded it. The prompt came up asking if I was sure I wanted to run "lol.exe" and I paused for a second wondering if I was about to install the most obvious trojan ever onto my computer. Pressed yes of course.
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Unlike people games don't necessarily hit the wall.
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Why don’t they just make a sequel!!!
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It's a multiplayer game, sequel would fracture the loserbase.
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then how come tf2 exists
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TF1 was very obscure and largely dead when TF2 was released. TF2 was more like a new release in terms of its playerbase. There also weren't widely played online games back then like there are now. When TF2 was released there was really just CounterStrike, DotA (in Warcraft 3 at that time), and Halo. CounterStrike would be a better comparison because of CounterStrike: Source, which split players between the original CS and CS:S because CS:S had an updated engine but terrible mechanics (the hitboxes were a constant complaint IIRC). CounterStrike: Global Offensive fixed this though since it had better mechanics like fixed hitboxes but updated graphics. Apparently there are still differences between CS:GO and CS 1.6 (the original CS) but I'm not a CS nerd so I couldn't care less.
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no shit there's differences r-slur it's a new game, but even if there weren't your point would still be r-slurred because that source is old as frick and I'll kill you over it
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No wonder
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You're right, daggerfall was mediocre
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Oh, my, science! Is that a heckin wholesome chungus redditism you just made? SQUEEEEEEE!!! I LOVE IT!!!
You did it Reddit(or)!!! You responded to a joke, and made it LESS FUNNY. You need to do that more often, or at least break both your arms so your mom can help you out
Just make sure you watch out for jolly ranchers, or you might stop being breathtaking 100!!! That's an aliment that would only possibly be cured by peak /r/science, that being some narwhal bacon at midnight!!!! XD
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Me setting out on a long journey to find who asked
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Street fighter 2 ?
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But that's not what actually happens when the new product is superior, it's just that when companies are shit and lazy all the old content and skins of their previous games create a retention dilemma.
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Some people consider Wild Rift as a sequel or successor to League, which is also developed by Riot but it's a mobile MOBA and caters to a much younger audience so I'm inherently disgusted by it. It looks nice though.
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no one cares about wild rift. westoids don't like mobile games and Chinese mobile games are already dominant in Asia. Riot ended up throwing away so much money by not letting Tencent make an official League mobile game earlier.
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There was another mobile LoL?
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No money in that
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League is a ship of Theseus. Practically no single element of the game is still in as it was back when it launched in 2009, but it's updated every two weeks without fail so there's a constant churn of new shit to keep people engaged. Does mean we're stuck with some 2009 sacred cows though.
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Yea but there's better stuff like DotA
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Yeah, but they fall off a cliff instead.
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But League hit the wall in season 2, shit was outlasted by HoN, imagine being outlasted by the fossil that died the microsecond DOTA 2 left beta.
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isn't no mans sky like 7 years old
HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL PLAYING IT?!
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Smash Melee is what? 20yrs old? Do only neurodivergents play that?n
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black people play it because they can't afford a console newer than a game cube.
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thatd be such a good bit
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Afford? But that’s what
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Smash for the 64 was the best smash but I'm the only one neurodivergent enough to still want to play it
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That is an insane opinion. Melee is better in every way and frankly ultimate is better than melee
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I was a Kirby main, meelee Kirby is horrible
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Project M was my fave but unfortunately i dont have enough autism to figure out how to emulate it after my wii broke
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Dolphin is easier than buying a game off steam lol
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yes
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Because instead of sequels, they just constantly bring the game up to contemporary standards dumdum
https://www.nomanssky.com/next-generation-update/
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pass
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Wdym?
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i knew it was carp
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I still remember the outrage as if it was yesterday
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Look at Doom, who is almost 30 years old yet has a massive community given how moddable it is
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a massive community of DEGENERATES AND SCHOOL SHOOTERS
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people are still playing Runescape with 2007-only features
the key is that neurodivergent people like familiar things
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still play tibia and that game is almost older than me.
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Tibia? neighbor that's a skeleton bone lmao 🤣🤣🤣
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I am playing ff1 right now
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my childhood best friend still plays Tibia
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Tibia is a timeless classic, this is like saying "nerds still play Minecraft"
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well it was, and then zoomers came in and are ruining the game just like it was ruined the first time around
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Play an RSPS if you don't like change, boomer
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those are full of the 1% of sweaty neurodivergent nerds, don't really wanna hangout there
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Ikr unlike games like dota and ss13 who constantly change, league is fighting to stay as stale and static.
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It is because lol is shit in core mechanics. lanning phase is so fricking dead with riot killing roamers and early gankers. They forced static laning instead of like dota2 where roaming is encouraged and dipping out of lane is possible.
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Yea and it's easy to snowball with the jungle buffs lmao.
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Depends. Top is a bona fide 1v1 for neurodivergents that wish they were playing a fighting game (me), mid is the one where as soon as you start losing trades you dip and go bother the rest of the map, and bot's there to get buttfricked by mid and jungle.
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ss13 has been shit since the braziltide, got shittier during one of the spergtuber tide, and finally killed by the sseth tide
ss13 hub be like:
COCKFRICK SERVER (18+) FURRY FRIENDLY (ERP ON)
COLONIAL MARINES
SHITFARTFUR STATION
COCKFRICKSERVER (RU)
SHITFURSTATION
FURRYSTATION2
SPLURT (ACTUAL NAME)
SHITFURSTATION (RU)
COLONIAL MARINES BUT RUINED BY /TG/ F@GGOTS
[RU] FURRYSERVER++
SPLURT [RU]
FURRYSTATION2[RU]
HUGBOX TG CLONE
SHITTY TG CLONE
GOONSTATION
"HEAVY RP" SHIT BAY RIPOFF THAT WOULDN'T BE ALIVE IF BAY DIDN'T MAKE ITSELF GAY AND R-SLURRED
SERVER I DON'T KNOW BUT IS ALSO PROBABLY SHIT
LITERALLY JUST TG
Furries ruined that game and cemented the fact that the slippery slope is real in my head. every time someone uses "le slippery slope xd" as a counterpoint to an argument I know for a fact I'm right and they're wrong.
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Euro /tg/ server and /vg/ server were OK last time I played (granted, over a year ago). The nature of the game just attracts megaspergs, what can you do?
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There's 3 kinds of servers:
Furry/heavy erp server: everyone is a degenerate 40yo moid who likes to have s*x with other 40yo moids pretending to be lizard girls in fursuits. If you want to play normal you will be banned cause you got in the way of someone trying to have s*x. Admins are super harsh on newbies. Everyone is mean to newbies. Exclusive furry servers always have libertarian/zoophilia or worse.
Heavy roleplay server. These servers have a lot of rules and people who are uptight about the rules. If you want to play normal you will get banned for breaking a gazillion ruled. Mods are uptight and really mean to you if you don't know the 1000 rules by heart.
Be nice to each other MRP. Just like HRP, except rules are kinda vague. Mods are lifeless neurodivergents who's only purpose in life is to enforce pesky rules over the few people they have power over. If you want to play normal, you will get banned because you pissed of some neighbor who is buddy buddy with a mod, or actual mod. Closely resemble the Stanford prison experiment.
Casual chill lrp server. Nah jk; 5pop or dead.
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Nice blind view of things, however, in reality
60% furry/erp server: "super harsh on newbies" just translates into "super nice to anyone who thinks textfricking for 6 hours is r-slurred". they'll do anything to protect the fee fees of their deviantart OC players/staff, even to the detriment of "quality" textfrickers who are literate and don't want genuine r-slurs around to ruin their textfricking
alternately there's citadel which was just run by complete spergs who hated both actual players and textfrickers and drove both out so the server's dead, best possible scenario.
25% russian servers, which can fall into the other groups. I play tarkov, so I don't need to join these, I get that experience already.
5% "classic" good servers. this used to be near 80% but le epic furries have arrived because fricking youtubers ruined the game unironically
5% non-ss13 servers that just leech off the hub because le epic same codebase even though the game is completely different there
5% "HRP" servers which are just the furry servers but even more cute twinkry
the days of good ss13 are long dead.
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I'd like to know what the 5% good servers are lmao
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Goon
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jannied to oblivion.
Also try not to copy any flavor text onto your server from theirs, or a couple of goons will come and CND you because their DMCA entitled them to threaten to sue you and make a big fuss on Groomercord...
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Oh, yeah, they went open source nvm they're fricked
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I still play San Andreas
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Poors who spend all their money on skins for a hero they’ve played all of 2 games with instead of getting a computer that can outperform a toaster.
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I got a wife from this game lol
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Smash bros Melee is 20 years old and just got a ranked mode
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Shut the frick up
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Its a lot like Counter Strike it is simply too big to fail, unlike counter strike however League has never been fun.
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I stopped playing in like 2013 because the game felt like it was becoming too centralized and nanny. When they axed independent tournaments and launched that gay social karma feature (which now has apparently become pandemic across all games) I was like “ya, I’m out.”
How the midwits are still consuming this corporate gruel a decade later I’ll never understand.
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NOOO DOOD ITS REALLY COOL YOU LIKE PLAY IT AND RAGE AND KICK YOUR MONITOR OVER
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Technically it’s over 20 since it just a reskin from a mod that was made in 2003 called Warcraft 3 dota
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