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EFFORTPOST [long] A journey into the therapist haters subreddit :marseybased:

https://old.reddit.com/r/therapyabuse

								

								

I just found this subreddit and I DO NOT remember how.

It's pretty cool, there's some sneeding about late stage capitalism which is :marseywords:, I've heard that before but the rest of /r/therapyabuse reinforces my hatred of the entire field of mental health! :marseywholesome:

Sample bangers from this subreddit:


Just muted /r/CPTSD because the constant chant of "go to therapy" is triggering my CPTSD

https://old.reddit.com/r/therapyabuse/comments/12wlkye/just_muted_rcptsd_because_the_constant_chant_of/

If anyone is looking for practical advice for recovering from this, muting, blocking, and otherwise not allowing therapy shills into your life is a big one. There is nothing wrong with guarding yourself or only allowing those into your life which have ideas worth sharing. In my experience therapy shills are not worth my time, energy, or effort.

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How to deal with the increasing therapisation of the world?

https://old.reddit.com/r/therapyabuse/comments/11836tp/how_to_deal_with_the_increasing_therapisation_of/

So, I’m technically an elderly gen z or maybe a baby millennial, and I’ve noticed that people in my generation are incredibly therapised to a scary extent.

For example, I was going through some issues and texted my friend that I needed to talk. I’d known this girl for years and emotionally supported her many times before (which I’m not complaining about, that’s what friends are for). Anyway, she literally text me back saying “I can’t help you, I think you need to see a therapist” and cut me off there and then.

Just the other day I arranged a meet up with a potential new friend and she gave me a “list of her boundaries” beforehand, she informed me she couldn’t talk about trauma at all. I asked her to be more specific and she sent me a voice note saying the conversation was “overwhelming her nervous system and making her feel unsafe”. She cut me off too (lol). In a previous conversation with her I’d briefly mentioned I was feeling a bit down since she asked how I was- she then freaked out and said “omg I wish I could support but it opens a caretaker wound for me”…

I feel like I can’t escape this insanity! It feels like people will be sending invoices to their friends in the future for emotional support or having difficult conversations. Even just listening to a ptsd podcast earlier someone had written a letter about a guy who was suicidal and going through a court case to prosecute his abusers, she asked how to support. The host literally told her to “distance herself until she’s out of his life”. Basically telling her to abandon a suicidal person.

It seems that people cannot deal with basic life issues anymore, and they see friends as purely entertainment… as soon as an issue comes up and you need support they’ll discard you. It’s honestly scary. Caring and empathy seems to have been relegated to a professional service and if you can’t afford it then you’re on you’re own I guess?

What really grinds my gears is that the people spewing this nonsense don’t seem to understand they’re spewing propaganda. They think it’s neutral life advice, but it’s rooted and wrapped up in capitalism and so many other social issues (sanism, racism, classism etc).

Sorry for the length of this post- the topic just really angers me!

New Vocabulary Aquired! SANISM

Therapist said all my issues are because I’m not practicing the Law of AttractionTherapy Abuse

https://old.reddit.com/r/therapyabuse/comments/uth8xd/therapist_said_all_my_issues_are_because_im_not/

Told my therapist today that I’m frustrated because it seems like I can’t catch a break in life, one bad thing after another keeps happening (lost my dad suddenly, I developed chronic pain, I’m being harassed at work). Her response was to tell me I’m not practicing the Law of Attraction and because I feel depressed and frustrated at life, negative things will keep happening to me.

Some people really need to be banned from this profession.

MANIFEST UR REALITY AND U WON'T BE SAD 💅

lol he found this b-word on betterhelp :marseyxd:

Is there some database where patients can review individual practitioners?

That would be nice. This therapist is from BetterHelp. BetterHelp let’s you rate the counselors but I think they purposely don’t show the negative reviews. I would also not recommend BetterHelp overall as many mental health professional on there are sus as heck. The first therapist that was assigned to me actually told me that I should try to call the suicide hotline at least once in my life because “the people there are so nice and it’s fun”. She had told me she called once pretending to be suicidal just to see how it’s like.

what

https://media.giphy.com/media/JSueytO5O29yM/giphy.webp

here's another comment from another post that is funni

I had a therapist tell me I was an old soul who chose to be abused (in my soul contract) in order to help rid the world of darkness 😒. When I told her I didn’t believe that, she rolled her eyes and shouted (in her Brooklyn accent), “Well what DO you believe then????” as if my rejection of a specific New Age belief was just the most unreasonable thing anyone had ever done. (link)

I'm trying to imagine how being abused rids the world of darkness.

Supposedly my abuse taught me a high level of empathy that I can use to heal the world or something I don’t know I didn’t book a second appointment lol.

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Therapy is the secular version of religious confessionals

https://old.reddit.com/r/therapyabuse/comments/zzcm9n/therapy_is_the_secular_version_of_religious/

That’s it. It all makes sense. The 1:1 private rant where you search your own flaws, the distance and pity from the therapist, the blaming of the client, the stigmatizing and shameful nature of it all, its strong associations with morality, the promise of a more purified/fixed state afterwards, the taboo of questioning authority… The analogy is not 100%, but as somebody who’s been to both, it’s all weirdly familiar. (Except, of course, a priest will do it for free.)

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I refused to answer the "Do you feel like hurting yourself or others?" question.

https://old.reddit.com/r/therapyabuse/comments/xvxseo/i_refused_to_answer_the_do_you_feel_like_hurting/

I thought her head was going to explode! I could hear the cranks and pullies in her mind struggling to process this information.

She was clearly disappointed that I would not give her the opportunity to decide if I should be imprisoned that day! What a major bummer for her!

She ended up threatening me one day, and I grinned and told her that I'll tell her anything she wants to hear... she turned red. I didn't say the "magic words."

Long story short, I haven't gone back, but probably have a new "Oppositional Defiant Dissorder" diagnosis. Lol

At the end of the day, I don't HAVE to answer shit! Also, I don't consider you an "authority figure." That is a construct that is only in your own mind.

/rant

I just lie and say no. I would literally rather die than be committed.

(OP) The cops at least read you your rights, which are that you can remain silent, and can have an attorney. Also, they let you know right away that what you say will be used against you.

Why don't I have at least those rights, before I've even commited a crime?


Clearly, I have 72 hours of my life to spare...

Some of them are so out of touch with reality it’s unbelievable. Not all of us have a 9-5 job with benefits and plenty of PTO, actually.

Me: I literally cannot take 3 straight days off of work to go inpatient. I don’t get any PTO because I can’t work full time, and I can’t afford 3 days without a paycheck even without covering the cost of hospitalization.

Thera-shit: You need to prioritize your mental health. It’s okay to take a break!

Overthrow capitalism and I’ll “take a break for my mental health,” you dumb c*nt.

(OP) I actually DO have 72 hours to spare, so they dont exactly have me over a barrel.

:#sigmatalking:

new slur for therapists unlocked: Thera-shit


and now for some blog posting:

therapy FRICKED up some of my friends fr like seriously darn near killed them

I felt like I had to talk them back together when they got out because the therapist, because that shit CLEARLY made it worse

for one friend the therapists (like every other one they saw 🤨) liked saying fricked up things to them for no reason like "oh, is X problem SEXUAL in nature? Are you sure you aren't feeling like this is SEXUAL? Does this remind you of the time you were r*ped? Huh? Does it? Think back REALLY hard" when it's something I know is mundane they just REALLY like talking about r*pe if they know it's there, like they can't resist digging through the trash to feel important, even if it's not neccessary.

There was only one guy I know who liked therapy

He loved to go see the emotional prostitutes (I was already using this slur for therapists but I found this subreddit and they use it too! :marseylove: ) and sit in their office. He became an egomaniac... but not a fun or funny kind, just an "im better than u and therapy is GREAT and everyone is a narcisist gaslamping emotional dysregultion codependent toxic person unless they validate me and respect my ✨boundaries✨, I HIGHLY recommend therapy btw"

turned the man into a walking self help book :marseydespair:


ok im wrapping this up, this is LONG but I don't feel like pinging effortposters because didn't get into the drama between reddit therapists and their hangout subreddits and /r/therapyabuse I think that needs further investigation.

that's it, bye :marseywave2:

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Just the other day I arranged a meet up with a potential new friend and she gave me a “list of her boundaries” beforehand, she informed me she couldn’t talk about trauma at all. I asked her to be more specific and she sent me a voice note saying the conversation was “overwhelming her nervous system and making her feel unsafe”. She cut me off too (lol). In a previous conversation with her I’d briefly mentioned I was feeling a bit down since she asked how I was- she then freaked out and said “omg I wish I could support but it opens a caretaker wound for me”…

Modern day foids, everyone :marseyclapping:

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dude they even got my mom :marseyworried:

she uses all these words now including "emotional labor" and everything is "gaslamping" :marseygaslighter:

I can't even keep up, this year has been the year where she realized she's an empath which means that narcissists target her-- and all this came from pop therapy videos on youtube :marseyveryworried:

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pop therapy videos on youtube

The absolute worst thing to have available for overly introspective people with down time. I happened to run across the “how to deal with a narcissist” YouTube hole and decided to watch a few minutes out of curiosity. I had to turn it off after 10 minutes because it’s a mind virus that starts causing you the pathologize everything in your own life, and I believe the only people that consistently watch that stuff are themselves narcissists.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16850169907521443.webp

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Youtube and ruining the minds and happiness of middle aged women. Name a more iconic duo.

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She should be working :marseylifting: more if she has time for that shit.

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she used to make pottery and stuff :marseysadge: I like to look at the crafts and think about how my mom used to be happy

before she "unpacked her trauma" ... wtf no, PUT IT BACK!

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:#marseygoodnight:

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wow a rude sexist shibadoggo shibbowhistle NOT funny :marseydisagree:

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what the frick is a shibadoggo shibbowhiste u tard

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doggoleths!

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:#marseyropeyourself2:

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That's not an idiot, the friend is a genius for using "omg unresolved trauma I can't right now" to avoid OP trauma dumping on her

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therapy cured my depression when i received the bill

aint nobody got time to be depressed if i have to pay that much to score some happy pills

rdrama is my therapy :#marseyxoxo:

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My GP gave me happy pills once, I didn't need to see a psychologist or psychiatrist. Nevertheless, I stopped taking them after they deprived me of my ability to

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lmao yeah i dont know how antidepressant's gonna help you get less depressed if it kills your peepee

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16849995915714724.webp

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It was even worse than that lmao, my peepee worked just fine, the pills just wouldn't let me finish

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I'm normally a one pump chump, but SSRIs make me last like 45 minutes :marseycoomer2: turns out cervical bruising is a thing that can happen lol :marseycoomer3:

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zoz

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zle

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zozzle

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ssri works wonders for me but i started taking i in april, today ii am going on a checkup

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Lmfaoo average ssri zoomer zombie

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my family even noticed huge improvement, literally my grandma said that she is happy seeing being happy and playful. I am also less irritable and i dont think of death doing random things like using a tram.

worth it, and all of this in one month. i will also regularly do control checkups so it's fine

even my psychiatrist went like "wow" today because he immediately noticed that i feel much happier

  • i can enjoy things now like gayming, moveing, dancing,, singing

:#marseyjam:

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>zoomers need drugs just to function

Ngmi

:@#maggotzpat:

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>worth it, and all of this in one month.

So this is just you not being acclimated to the drug yet?

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no idea, psych wants me to continue aking 75mg of sertaline a day so i follow.

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:#marseycheerup:

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Frick I was hoping to improve mentally so I could leave social media forever

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I actually think a lot of therapists are insane idiots

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In my experience, foids get into psych because they have broken brains. This then turns into a career where they analyze other malfunctioning minds.

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Yeah i was shocked when i discovered therapists have their own therapists. Why the frick would you trust them, it's like going to a mechanic who doesn't know how to fix his own car

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According to my NEET psych major friend most of the people who were getting psychology degrees were people who were trying to self-diagnose their own mental disorders

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A lot of them are very slightly smarter than average but not smart enough to realize they’re not the smartest person ever. So they just browbeat those around them and use their giant brains to analyze the little people and tell them how they are.

Also, a lot of them are insane.

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As are the people who think that talking about your problems can solve them. It's a good match

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The primary reason for wanting to be a therapist seems to be being a lifetime therapy patient themselves so I tend to agree.

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>Caring and empathy seems to have been relegated to a professional service and if you can’t afford it then you’re on you’re own I guess?

This person seems a bit fricked but they’re definitely on the right track.

I see this a lot from my gf’s family. So many of them pay for therapy just to talk with someone and have deep conversations. They could easily be having these conversations with each other, for free, but it’s not the same. You can tell their therapists don’t push back on anything they say, like a real person who actually cares about them would do, and that’s obviously what these people prefer.

Therapists want you to keep coming back. If that means validating your delusions or blaming a personal issue on anything other than your own choices, then they’ll do that all day. But a person who actually cares about you will tell you something you don’t want to hear. They’ll hurt your feelings and don’t give a shit about your comfort level if they need to tell you something important. The vast majority of therapists never do that.

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You can tell their therapists don’t push back on anything they say, like a real person who actually cares about them would do, and that’s obviously what these people prefer.

Yeah this is definitely a very common phenomenon for therapy. Go to any foid heavy subreddit like TwoX and you’ll see a thread or comment in no time complaining about a toxic therapist who told them the truth about something and didn’t just validate their bullshit.

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Signing up on better help to tell people "ok but like have you trieeeeed not being sad" sounds hilarious

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What if you dressed as Batman

:batman: What do you mean where is your assigned therapist? I am your emotional support Batman.

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Hi its me your therapist. Have you considered violence?

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:#marseyfedmassshooter:

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Brb going to hack BetterHelp and Chatroulette’s servers to cross connect users.

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:!marseyxd: :marseyxd:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16850246697995071.webp

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On one hand, therapy is a scam perpetuated by women

On the other hand, most of the posts there seem to be written by people with personality disorders.

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personality disorders are keygembased :marseyagreefast:

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Betterhelp

lol getting "therapy" from a youtuber sponsorship :marseyitsover:

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If youre depressed buy a motorcycle. If riding it doesnt make you feel better, you can just ram it into a wall

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:!#marseymarseylove:

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she told me that I should try to call the suicide hotline at least once in my life because “the people there are so nice and it’s fun”.

Im in love.

:!#marseylaughpoundfist:

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>prank calling the suicide hotline cause its fun

>you enjoy it so much you cure your depression

:#marseyretardchad:

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Idk, I have found the male feminists helpful on occasion, but lots are just straight-up useless or r-slurred.

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I first saw a psychologist in my early 20s, shortly after a self-harm incident. He was fantastic and with his support, I went from an unemployed hopeless loser to a stable person holding a professional job in a matter of months. I was very lucky to have him. I wish I remember his name.

After that, I had a string of female psychologists who were, without exception, as useless as tits on a bull. I'm convinced that women don't make good therapists, at least for men. The worst was an obese woman, whom I discarded after one appointment. B-word, I have trouble maintaining my weight, how the heck can you help me?

Male psychologists are very hard to find here and almost always very expensive. The government healthcare rebate doesn't anywhere near cover the cost, same with insurance. I found one male psych who was relatively new, but I stopped going when he started being too abrupt and borderline agressive for some reason.

After that latest failure, I started working out at the gym almost daily and my mental and physical health has improved immesurably.

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re: the fatty part, it sucks but she probably has a client base just based off the fact that she's fat. i don't think most people go to therapy to get help, they go to be validated. i know a person who automatically feels more comfortable with fat therapists because they won't actually try to help her weight issues

which has to be heck for people looking for someone to actually help them. i don't feel like the average therapist is mentally healthy enough to not get offended if you just outright say "hey i'm not just looking for validation, please actually challenge me, i won't drop you for trying to help me"

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Patrick Teahan and Dr. K (healthyg*mergg) on youtube don't seem THAT bad, for being licensed mental health ppl

but the majority of people I ever meet go to dysfunctional women therapists, or really aloof millennial male therapists, or they consume pop therapy content by some over dramatic random person (usually woman therapist) that spews obvious feel good (or feel BAD bc u deserve it and ur feelings valid honey don't let no one gas light u otherwise) bullshit, and then they take whatever they want to hear as fact :marseyannoyed:

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How did you hurt yourself?

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For reasons i'd prefer not to go into, I swallowed an entire packet of sleeping pills. However, they were over-the-counter antihistamines, with a dose sufficient to cause lethargy and hallucinations, but not enough to cause any permanent damage.

That was a long time ago and is behind me now.

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I didnt know you were a woman.

:#marseyshrug:

How often did you cut yourself?

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I'm not a woman, though I am a homosexual, which might explain a few things. I also never cut myself. I am rather averse to physical traumatic pain.

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I went to a therapist for a few months, we worked through the basics of cognitive behavioral therapy and at the end he said it seems like I got it from here so we were done. He was right I've been good since.

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CBT is the only thing that actually works. But it’s kinda boring and tedious to implement so most therapists ignore it and favour bullshit approaches

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Cptsd was written about by a psychiatrist thirty years ago and still isn't recognized in the DSM. It also isn't meaningfully distinct from BPD.

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isnt c-PTSD just the diagnosis they give to people with BPD who refuse to accept they have BPD

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Wtf is Law of Attraction is that some kind of fat thing

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gravity

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If you think about something hard enough, it will come to you. Very intuitive if you are prone to obsessive behaviors mixed with procrastination (in that it was exactly what they were doing before).

It’s funny because people that actually do it, do so unknowingly and without naming it (study hard, get a job, have a career vision, etc), whereas if you name it, you’ve already lost lol

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Yes.

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Can't write "Therapist" without "The" and "Male feminist"

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:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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Some of these people are gigakeyed. I bow.

One of my family members is a foid and a therapist. She microdoses LSD and has been in several cults. I suspect she might be about to enter the trans cult. Those dangerhair haircuts are getting shorter and shorter.

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ppl forget how important for successful therapy is having a friend that is there for you no matter what, someone who would listen too you're worries wiithout judging you and would hug you later

go see a therapist seems too be just "frick off, @maggotz dont wanna liisten too you're problems"

if someone rly wanted too help @maggotz think they shuld go too therapist together

trans lives matter

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GOOD post

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If your therapist isn't doing what you want find a new one lol worked for me

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Imagine being so dysfunctional you can’t even get along with people who are literally paid to be your friend and confidant

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:abusivewife: openly beaks confidence

:marseydisgust: files a complaint

:marseyunamused: um yeah this is the office mmhmmm we'll get back to you on that

:abusivewife: haha looks like they were crazier than I thought

:#marseymanysuchcases:

lol my homies mom is a social worker who used to be a therapist and when she had the therapy job she'd meet her friends and be like "oh I'm so baddddd but you won't BELEIVE this case I got. I really shouldn't... but Yeah, uhuh, yeah this client :marseywords::marseywords::marseywords::marseywords::marseypop2: "

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The only thing u can really get therapists in trouble for is sexual misconduct, which happens all the time lol

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if you choose a social worker as your therapist you frankly deserve whatever crappy treatment you get. Next time choose a real profession.

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she left therapy to become a social worker lmao :marseylaughwith:

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So she had no qualifications, gotcha

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Honestly though unless you've got some psychotic disorder or hallucinations or some shit, a therapist can easily be replaced by even a tiny amount of introspection.

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