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r/Target [MEGATHREAD] Pride Fiasco 2023

https://old.reddit.com/r/Target/comments/13repjn/megathread_pride_fiasco_2023?sort=controversial

:marseyjanny: starts us off

I don't agree with making this a megathread.

I understand we are a small mod team but this feels like giving in to the trolls if Im giving my honest opinion, because how can this possible be enforced unless we plan to now remove any pride related posts, even the positive ones because of the comments they will receive

I've never really gotten into how the moderation settings and tools work beyond using the basic removal and ban options, but if it is somehow possible I feel temporarily auto removing comments and posts from people with no history in the subbreddit would be a better option, similar to our union posting rules

I feel this would be very effective because nearly all the comments I have seen that needed removal were from outside users and not this subs typical base of Target workers

We could go through and approve comments on a case by case basis as we happen to see them while browsing

So many fricking long posts :marseylongpost:

u/JayUnderscore_ could you sticky a comment for me? Don't have to, but I'd appreciate it.

Heya, team. I comment on here a lot, and I do my best to be helpful - I try to relay stuff to team members, because I know communication breakdowns do a lot of damage. I'm a PML, and also a leader of the Pride+ Business Council.

I've given the Pride+ Business Council a LOT of feedback from store level, especially in the last few days. I've told them how I feel, and how some folks from my store feel, and I've given them some generalities from comments on here about the mood. I'm exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, betrayed, and feeling too many things to really process.

That being said, if you are okay with having comments pushed up to the business council, I would LOVE for you to respond to this with how you're feeling. They (the business council) doesn't have a lot of outlets for gaining insight from the team, and the boots-on-ground TMs are the ones who need our voices heard the most right now.

Edit: I don't have the mental energy to respond to everyone who's been commenting, but I've upvoted them. Thank y'all so much. A lot of the corporate TMs are incredibly invested in making sure we're okay out here in the field, and want to hear our voices. I've copied/pasted a lot/all the comments I've seen so far, and posted it on comms for them to read. I will continue to do so as people respond. Take care of each other, and we'll weather this storm.

Pride means not backing down.

Our value is far greater than the stock price of Target.

The corporate side of Target has shown through its recent actions that they don't actually care about LGBTQ staff or the community as a whole. They only care about the money they can make off the back of the Pride movement. By backing down instead of making moves to actually defend their staff, they have aligned Target with bigotry.

Total stock price death!

u/danyavich, your comments about feeling exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, and betrayed really echo how I'm feeling right now (and I'm sure that's how a LOT of us are feeling right now).

Pride is something that reinforces acceptance for the LGBTQ community. As a guy who grew up in the south, seeing pride merch in stores always gave me a small glimmer of hope that maybe one day I'd be able to live a life with my partner without fear. If a big store was selling pride stuff, it meant the social climate had shifted to the point where it was okay for the store to do that. That meant something to me. It also let me know who around me was definitely unsafe to come out to (based on comments regarding pride month/merch).

As a trans person, I also felt such joy this year and last year when I saw target carrying things like binders. I would have cried seeing something like that as a teen. That kind of accessibility for trans people - like selling safe ways to bind in one of the largest retail chains in the country - is honestly life saving. It made me feel good about Target compared to other retailers. It felt like Target actually cared.

Pride merch has a positive impact on people. Moving it has given fuel to right-wing outlets to claim that their hate against Target has resulted in another "victory."

I decided to work at Target because I knew they were inclusive and I felt like I would be safe working there. Moving the collection is a decision that has made me feel unsafe.

Target's mission is to help all families discover the joy of everyday life. I am not feeling that joy with Target's latest actions.

:marseytrain: :marseywords:

i work for Meijer and stand with you guys in solidarity. Sure they are looking for a way to push pride merch to the back of the store here again too . Stay strong and stay safe

checkout clerks of the world unite :marseyrevolution:

Does anyone know if Target gets a percentage of prescription sales from the CVS inside stores?

I ask because I’m no longer shopping at Target since they capitulated to the Christofascist terrorists and wanted to know if I need to switch pharmacies as well.

it's gonna be budlight 2.0 I can taste it

Target claims that they’re removing the items because of “violent threats from shoppers that make their employees fear for their safety”. Bullshit, Target. You’re just trying to make sure you don’t piss off the alphabet crew like bud light, so you’re trying to make it about self defense instead of losing billions.

The only "threats" I've seen is people saying they won't shop at Target anymore. That's how conservatives fight they just withhold their money .

Too true :soyjakanimeglasses:

Why make your sexuality the only personality you have? It's clear that society is starting to realize that if you pander to one group, you'll only push away all the others.

Go ahead and downvote. But just realize that target is a corporation that only cares about their bottom line and nothing more. If they really cared about the pride community, they would increase wages across the board.

You don’t work here, go away.

:chudsey::marseywagie:

Nextdoor ( I know, not popular on Reddit) deleted my post stating that I would boycott. Nothing vulgar, or hateful. I had a lot of comments, but couldn't read any. Sure would have liked to know what my local community thought about it.

People like you are the reason an LGBTQ coworker of mine was harassed yesterday by a bigot.

Supporting a boycott is pushing the harmful rhetoric that is putting at risk the safety of people just trying to do our jobs.

Homophobia is hateful and vulgar. Please don’t bring it into my workplace.

OP has another post in their history implying the boycott is because target moved pride, not because target had pride in the first place.

Oh goodness!! I wish they had said that!

These people are beyond parody

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MUCHO TEXTO

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I love friendly fire

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rightoids filming themselves having emotional breakdowns at target. it's only may, it's gonna be a great summer boys.

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The one video I saw ended up being from a few years ago. Frat dude in the Maga hat stomping on the rainbow displays

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AMERICA is fighting BACK. FULL FORCE!

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:#marseysaluteusa:

Let's take this country back from BIPOCs cute twinks jewish chads and :!marseytrain:s

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HECK YEAH BROTHA

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I'm a trans TM who hasn't come out at work yet, and I almost cried from happiness and pride walking through and looking at the Pride merch in the front of my local store. I was just about convinced that Target, as a company, might actually be interested in protecting and advocating for LGBTQIA+, and that it might actually not be terrible to come out to my boss and coworkers. I was looking forward to taking my daughter and her girlfriend to Target to shop the collection in person instead of online.

Then I saw a message on Slack that Target had moved Pride displays at their store and given some excuse about pushing swim. Sure enough, when I checked https://Target.com for some of the items I'd bookmarked to save money for, they were nowhere to be seen. I have no idea whether my store has moved their display, but I can't go check because I don't want to risk breaking down in tears in public if they have.

Guess I'll just take the money I was going to save for Pride shirts and apparel and put it into something that'll help me keep hiding my transition at work.

I can feel the AGP from all the way over here :marseysmug5:

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>I'm trans

>my daughter and her girlfriend

Everytime

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https://media.giphy.com/media/7NCQOWxCZhkPaQJQIv/giphy.webp

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>target moves ‘lil Satan’ peepee cage to back

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

:#marseysnoo:

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That's really the tldr.

People are fine with generic "gays exist" pride, but then they push it too hard with the satanist codpieces and tuckable toddler swimwear. People push back and they start hollering that people want all LGBTs exterminated.

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Anyone can pretend to not be a bigot. The codpieces are a way of flushing out the fakers, so we can find the bigots.

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People push back and they start hollering that people want all LGBTs exterminated.

If LGBT groups continue to protect p-dophiles, then yes.

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>I'm a very openly, visibly queer trans team member

They weren't fricking kidding:

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I had no idea they took the nipples off too....

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Why is there a subreddit for target

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Redditors love corporate peepee

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So I know who to aim at for their transphobia

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:#soyconsoomer::#marseydisney:

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I’m guessing it’s mainly (redditor) employees that go there. I remember reading a walmart Reddit full of wagies sometime ago complaining about wagie things and fantasizing about unionizing and eating the rich.

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There's nothing about Target that could possibly engender any kind of love or devotion the way Trader Joe's or Costco can. Costco of course possesses the stellar Kirkland Signature brand, selling everything from flannel tops to highland Scotch whiskey to boxer-briefs to nutritional supplements. And they're almost universally high quality items sold at VERY reasonable prices. Trader Joe's labels most of the foodstuffs in their store under the "Trader Joe's" brand (or even sometimes a clever variant like "Trader Jose's). And again, most of their branded inventory is of exceptional quality (except the mayonnaise--YUCK (trust me!)). Trader Joe's fair trade chocolate milk is probably one of the best beverages in the world. But Target, nay, there's nothing good to say about the Target experience itself. It survives only as an alternative for middle class whites to disassociate from the Walmart whites (who are, let's be honest--YUCK (trust me!)).

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:#marseyhesright:

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I went to Target exactly once in my life, growing up online as a leaf i would always hear about it. It's just bougie walmart with worse prices i really dgi

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everyday I thank the lord above for blessing us with HEB and freeing us from the plebian supermarket experience

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that could possibly engender

LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE FRICKO

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I find your derisiveness unappealing, buddy boy.

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Thanks Trader Joe's PR


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So that consoomers can consoom more efficiently.

Also for wagies to seethe about their deadend lives.

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imagine how much cheaper they could have made their way out of this if they just came in and used their executive amex black to "buy" all the offending merchandise and then donated it to the dumpsters out back :marseyxd:

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Lol Pride+? Did they give up adding more letters to the string?

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My problem with the situation is that Target caved to a small, vocal, violent minority. About 70% of this country supports LGBT rights and by capitulating to these domestic terrorists, Target is only emboldening them.

The majority of people are ‘Pro-LGBT’ in so far that they believe what adults do in privacy is their own business and are fine with gay marriage and work place protections. I have a feeling the stats will change when a dude with a wig is arguing that they need to go into the same bathroom as their wife.

Also complaining about a small vocal minority pushing their own narrative is peak.

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i know some chill as frick rednecks who say shit like "i aint got no problem with the queers. they all right. but i cant stand no :!marseytrain:s." that is almost a direct quote

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they said the same shit with gays back in the day, and blacks before that.

"i don't mind blacks, they are all right. but can't stand BIPOCs"

"i don't mind gays, they are all right, but can't stand cute twinks"

The :marseytrain2:s will win, it's inevitable.

It's already begun tbh, with stuff like the following:

"i don't mind passing :!marseytrain:s, but can't stand non passing or nonbinary :!marseytrain:s"

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actually true. darn. :marseysad:

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I know regular people who say almost the same thing

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The best time to drop the T was yesterday. The second best time is now. /r/LGBdroptheT

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Buy Target's pride merchandise! Outpower those motherlovers. That's why they resort to violence, they know they're losing. I bought pride toy mice for my cats and a pride ribbon stick toy. My cats really like them!

Spend your money on useless crap from a megacorp to own the chuds :marseylgbtflag3:

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I bought pride toy mice for my cats and a pride ribbon stick toy.

At least they aren't reproducing.

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That's why they resort to violence

How do these people function on a day to day basis without basic pattern recognition? Literally years of lefties attacking people over the most mundane and r-slurred shit and they still think they're the ones under attack. How do vast swathes of people become so brainrotted that they can start a fight then clutch their pearls the moment people start telling them to frick off?

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A. They are wingcucks and the wingcuck’s natural position is to own the other side at all costs so hypocrisy or cognitive dissonance doesn’t cross their minds or if it does they do not care.

B. Redditors are starting act like their (poor) interpretation of Popper’s Paradox is an actual legal defense to give them carte blanche to assault chuds.

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As a person of career and social life (POCSL) I don't have any idea what's going on.

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This type of person-first language intrinsically defines an individual as being only a career and social life. Terminology should reflect these traits being only part of a rich internal world of a body endowed with personhood. The preferred phrasing is therefore Person experiencing Life (PEL).

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Target started selling clothing designed to sexually repress children and some satanic stuff from a satanic designer which was pretty gay. Rightoids started b-wording out after their bud light non win. Targeted cut down their gay products to only 30% of the store as opposed to 80% which upset everyone who cared about target.

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It's so beautiful. Leftoids are pissed that Target is reducing their gay shit and rightoids are pissed that Target had any to begin with.

:#marseyhappytears:

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Truly just two sides of the same r-slurred :marse#ycoin:

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I’m so tired here in the south

I plum recon:marseysoutherner:

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what did these people do even 10years or so ago when people probably would yell 'queer!' or something in public :marseysaluteconfederacy:

the country has changed so rapidly on this issue, to their benefit, even in the south, and yet they still claim persecution...

or are they all just 17yr old target employees who don't know any better :marseyamazon::mcmarsey:

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They're always "so tired" or "out of mental energy". lol

had a lady come up to the desk just a few minutes ago, she says "i don't know who i'm supposed to talk to about this but i assume you'll pass the message along. i just wanted to express how disappointed i am in target for selling transgender-" and i said NOPE i'm going to stop you right there because i'm not going to hear your hate but the store directors right there if you'd like to whine to him. saw her on her way to her car when i was outside on a driveup so i waved and yelled "i'll pray for you bestie!!"

Very brave, very professional.

I hope those right-wing loonies are aware that the LGBTQ community ain't afraid to fight. We always survive, no matter what. From Anita Bryant to AIDS, we are fighters and will never back down!

Fight for their right to make children wear tuck swimsuits!

This exchange is pretty funny: https://old.reddit.com/r/Target/comments/13repjn/megathread_pride_fiasco_2023/jll57f9/?sort=controversial

Both sides

Christians want to murder trains, trains just want to touch children! [upvoted]

A train literally killed Christians just last month. [downvoted]

Ummm sweaty thankfully the police won't release their manifesto so you can't prove that [upvoted]

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AIDS

honestly as I've gotten older and learned more about this it really seems like the gay community could have slowed the spread by just not attending so many orgies but they preferred AIDS

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  • Qar : homophobia and manslut-shaming

Whole-butt. It's insane how dudes were literally ready to die instead of sticking to a single partner for a while.

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uh sweaty you're being homophobic right now.

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Scrotes are subhumans controlled by their peepees

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:#marseyagreefast:

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Do your part to stop the spread of AIDS

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:marseynooticeglow:

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>The corporate side of Target has shown through its recent actions that they don't actually care about LGBTQ staff or the community as a whole. They only care about the money they can make off the back of the Pride movement. By backing down instead of making moves to actually defend their staff, they have aligned Target with bigotry.

You r-slurs thought they actually cared about you? No, it was ALWAYS about your money!

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They didn't even care about the gay bucks. They only cared about white women money who are mostly all proud allies.

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Big corporations are my friends

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Yknow, I wonder whether ESG scores are negatively impacted if you pull your campaign due to backlash? Cos if not, this could just be based corpos gaming the system

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i think anheuser busch ESG score was hit after they apologized

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🎵 Yooouuuu've

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Trolled

You've been trolled You have probably been told. Don't reply, to this guy; he is just getting a rise, out of you! Yes it's true, you respond and thats his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble

You've been Trolled! You've been Trolled!

You should probably just fold When the only winning move is not to play And yet you keep on trying, Mindlessly Replying.

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I don't agree with making this a megathread.:

I understand we are a small mod team but this feels like giving in to the trolls if Im giving my honest opinion, because how can this possible be enforced unless we plan to now remove any pride related posts, even the positive ones because of the comments they will receive:

u/JayUnderscore_ could you sticky a comment for me? Don't have to, but I'd appreciate it. :

u/danyavich, your comments about feeling exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, and betrayed really echo how I'm feeling right now (and I'm sure that's how a LOT of us are feeling right now). :

i work for Meijer and stand with you guys in solidarity. Sure they are looking for a way to push pride merch to the back of the store here again too . Stay strong and stay safe:

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Lot of:marseytranspearlclutch::marseytranspearlclutch: going on there

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It's finally KMart's time to rise

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Only 3 left in the US :#marseyitsover:

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>From 2005 through 2019, Kmart was a subsidiary of Sears Holdings Corporation.

No wonder it fell off. :marseylaugh: Sears management was full of r-slurs.

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Frick I miss riding my bike to Kmart and getting little Cesar's pepperoni slices :marseydepressed:

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Was the bike also bought at K-Mart?

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Yes and it lasted 20 years.

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My fiance is in training to be an Ulta/beauty TL right now, and on Friday when the comms happened, they and their trainer (another queer TL) were the two who had to spearhead moving everything. We cried a lot that night.

:marseylaugh:

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it's so beyond me how leftoids think its a good thing to say how much they're crying over [current thing]

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Modern leftoidism is just the weakest person you know saying 'I am very scared'

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Beyond pathetic

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I honestly wonder, did they really cry over something so meaningless or is it just exaggeration on the internet for attention? :marseythonk:

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Idk I like to think it’s all bs, but the truth is I’ve met a disturbing amount of younger people :marseyzoomer: that flat out don’t get your job is just a place to get money, and that your real life is meant to exist outside of it. They keep insisting it’s super important work reflect their values, treating it as church instead of some shit place they show up half the day with the other cogs.

Management encourages this crap too because it’s easier to get people to accept bad working conditions if stocking aisles with plastic crap with no sick leave is totally sticking it to the fascist chuds. Somehow.

It’s like an entire generation somehow unironically bought into the BS HR presentations on how work is a family, and I swear is at the root of half the business drama we’ve seen the last few years. :marseythinkorino:

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Smartphones were a mistake.

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EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET IS A LIEE

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If only @collectijism could see a group of bubbas peeing on them while they had too cry move all the baby tucky swimwear

Trans lives matter

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As the most loyal Target supporter in the world, who cares about nothing other than the wellbeing of Target and its employees and shareholders, they must be completely destroyed if they do anything other than replace all their merch with pride material.

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Culture War, Shmulture War...

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