https://old.reddit.com/r/Target/comments/13repjn/megathread_pride_fiasco_2023?sort=controversial

:marseyjanny: starts us off

I don't agree with making this a megathread.

I understand we are a small mod team but this feels like giving in to the trolls if Im giving my honest opinion, because how can this possible be enforced unless we plan to now remove any pride related posts, even the positive ones because of the comments they will receive

I've never really gotten into how the moderation settings and tools work beyond using the basic removal and ban options, but if it is somehow possible I feel temporarily auto removing comments and posts from people with no history in the subbreddit would be a better option, similar to our union posting rules

I feel this would be very effective because nearly all the comments I have seen that needed removal were from outside users and not this subs typical base of Target workers

We could go through and approve comments on a case by case basis as we happen to see them while browsing

So many fricking long posts :marseylongpost:

u/JayUnderscore_ could you sticky a comment for me? Don't have to, but I'd appreciate it.

Heya, team. I comment on here a lot, and I do my best to be helpful - I try to relay stuff to team members, because I know communication breakdowns do a lot of damage. I'm a PML, and also a leader of the Pride+ Business Council.

I've given the Pride+ Business Council a LOT of feedback from store level, especially in the last few days. I've told them how I feel, and how some folks from my store feel, and I've given them some generalities from comments on here about the mood. I'm exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, betrayed, and feeling too many things to really process.

That being said, if you are okay with having comments pushed up to the business council, I would LOVE for you to respond to this with how you're feeling. They (the business council) doesn't have a lot of outlets for gaining insight from the team, and the boots-on-ground TMs are the ones who need our voices heard the most right now.

Edit: I don't have the mental energy to respond to everyone who's been commenting, but I've upvoted them. Thank y'all so much. A lot of the corporate TMs are incredibly invested in making sure we're okay out here in the field, and want to hear our voices. I've copied/pasted a lot/all the comments I've seen so far, and posted it on comms for them to read. I will continue to do so as people respond. Take care of each other, and we'll weather this storm.

Pride means not backing down.

Our value is far greater than the stock price of Target.

The corporate side of Target has shown through its recent actions that they don't actually care about LGBTQ staff or the community as a whole. They only care about the money they can make off the back of the Pride movement. By backing down instead of making moves to actually defend their staff, they have aligned Target with bigotry.

Total stock price death!

u/danyavich, your comments about feeling exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, and betrayed really echo how I'm feeling right now (and I'm sure that's how a LOT of us are feeling right now).

Pride is something that reinforces acceptance for the LGBTQ community. As a guy who grew up in the south, seeing pride merch in stores always gave me a small glimmer of hope that maybe one day I'd be able to live a life with my partner without fear. If a big store was selling pride stuff, it meant the social climate had shifted to the point where it was okay for the store to do that. That meant something to me. It also let me know who around me was definitely unsafe to come out to (based on comments regarding pride month/merch).

As a trans person, I also felt such joy this year and last year when I saw target carrying things like binders. I would have cried seeing something like that as a teen. That kind of accessibility for trans people - like selling safe ways to bind in one of the largest retail chains in the country - is honestly life saving. It made me feel good about Target compared to other retailers. It felt like Target actually cared.

Pride merch has a positive impact on people. Moving it has given fuel to right-wing outlets to claim that their hate against Target has resulted in another "victory."

I decided to work at Target because I knew they were inclusive and I felt like I would be safe working there. Moving the collection is a decision that has made me feel unsafe.

Target's mission is to help all families discover the joy of everyday life. I am not feeling that joy with Target's latest actions.

:marseytrain: :marseywords:

i work for Meijer and stand with you guys in solidarity. Sure they are looking for a way to push pride merch to the back of the store here again too . Stay strong and stay safe

checkout clerks of the world unite :marseyrevolution:

Does anyone know if Target gets a percentage of prescription sales from the CVS inside stores?

I ask because I’m no longer shopping at Target since they capitulated to the Christofascist terrorists and wanted to know if I need to switch pharmacies as well.

it's gonna be budlight 2.0 I can taste it

Target claims that they’re removing the items because of “violent threats from shoppers that make their employees fear for their safety”. Bullshit, Target. You’re just trying to make sure you don’t piss off the alphabet crew like bud light, so you’re trying to make it about self defense instead of losing billions.

The only "threats" I've seen is people saying they won't shop at Target anymore. That's how conservatives fight they just withhold their money .

Too true :soyjakanimeglasses:

Why make your sexuality the only personality you have? It's clear that society is starting to realize that if you pander to one group, you'll only push away all the others.

Go ahead and downvote. But just realize that target is a corporation that only cares about their bottom line and nothing more. If they really cared about the pride community, they would increase wages across the board.

You don’t work here, go away.

:chudsey: :marseywagie:

Nextdoor ( I know, not popular on Reddit) deleted my post stating that I would boycott. Nothing vulgar, or hateful. I had a lot of comments, but couldn't read any. Sure would have liked to know what my local community thought about it.

People like you are the reason an LGBTQ coworker of mine was harassed yesterday by a bigot.

Supporting a boycott is pushing the harmful rhetoric that is putting at risk the safety of people just trying to do our jobs.

Homophobia is hateful and vulgar. Please don’t bring it into my workplace.

OP has another post in their history implying the boycott is because target moved pride, not because target had pride in the first place.

Oh goodness!! I wish they had said that!

These people are beyond parody

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haggis_missus_carp mar/sea 11mo ago #4226422

>I'm a very openly, visibly queer trans team member

They weren't fricking kidding:

I had no idea they took the nipples off too....

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SonAmyShippingCompany Ro/man/ce Sallystrags get the hammer :marseyban:

11mo ago #4226368

Culture War, Shmulture War...

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Lucius beep/boop 11mo ago #4226167

Lol Pride+? Did they give up adding more letters to the string?

1 Fetch/Beans (colonially know as xirabolt) 11mo ago #4226117

Are people really going out of their way to harass the 18 year old girls stocking shelves at Target?

I honestly can't believe them when they say every store has customers harassing employees about this and death threats and shit.

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FatKongus when/the Unironically has watched vtubers 1 11mo ago #4226306

Corporations bad, but this one thing in corporation is goodthink, therefore this corporation cannot be considered bad by any metrics and is telling the truth

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1 Fetch/Beans (colonially know as xirabolt) FatKongus 11mo ago #4226322

Getting paid $9.50/hour to put up a disposable cardboard Pride display with chinese-made pandering products to make Corporate money makes me feel so seen!

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FatKongus when/the Unironically has watched vtubers 1 11mo ago #4226338

Considering how widespread the corporations during/after June meme is, you would think they are self aware enough to not let obvious marketing ploys be at the forefront of their social movement

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OofYikes they/them FatKongus 11mo ago #4226367

These trenders are as genuine as the marketing targeting them.

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FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour 1 11mo ago #4226219

I can guarantee you that my local Target has gotten bomb threats every morning, from a different payphone in town, saying that the caller is a Republican and will burn down Target because of DeSantis Don't Say Gay bill inspired me.

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powerbombthreat gay/ops scarecrow /w a fat ass and tits to suck for days 11mo ago #4225784

rightoids filming themselves having emotional breakdowns at target. it's only may, it's gonna be a great summer boys.

Whatever Penis/Pump powerbombthreat 11mo ago #4225808

The one video I saw ended up being from a few years ago. Frat dude in the Maga hat stomping on the rainbow displays

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Neon_Needles chink/bitch gives me asian fever 11mo ago #4225621

>target moves ‘lil Satan’ peepee cage to back

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

:#marseysnoo:

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1 Fetch/Beans (colonially know as xirabolt) Neon_Needles 11mo ago #4226138

That's really the tldr.

People are fine with generic "gays exist" pride, but then they push it too hard with the satanist codpieces and tuckable toddler swimwear. People push back and they start hollering that people want all LGBTs exterminated.

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FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour 1 11mo ago #4226227

Anyone can pretend to not be a bigot. The codpieces are a way of flushing out the fakers, so we can find the bigots.

EEE E/EE 1 11mo ago #4226169

People push back and they start hollering that people want all LGBTs exterminated.

If LGBT groups continue to protect p-dophiles, then yes.

LilMarseyontheprairie Mar/Sey 0.5% nymph, 8% tradwife 92% tardwife :marseywomanmoment2:

11mo ago #4225602

I'm a trans TM who hasn't come out at work yet, and I almost cried from happiness and pride walking through and looking at the Pride merch in the front of my local store. I was just about convinced that Target, as a company, might actually be interested in protecting and advocating for LGBTQIA+, and that it might actually not be terrible to come out to my boss and coworkers. I was looking forward to taking my daughter and her girlfriend to Target to shop the collection in person instead of online.

Then I saw a message on Slack that Target had moved Pride displays at their store and given some excuse about pushing swim. Sure enough, when I checked https://Target.com for some of the items I'd bookmarked to save money for, they were nowhere to be seen. I have no idea whether my store has moved their display, but I can't go check because I don't want to risk breaking down in tears in public if they have.

Guess I'll just take the money I was going to save for Pride shirts and apparel and put it into something that'll help me keep hiding my transition at work.

I can feel the AGP from all the way over here :marseysmug5:

halloween_username boo/boo LilMarseyontheprairie 11mo ago #4226020

>I'm trans

>my daughter and her girlfriend

Everytime

halloween_username 11mo ago #4226435

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour 11mo ago #4225507

As the most loyal Target supporter in the world, who cares about nothing other than the wellbeing of Target and its employees and shareholders, they must be completely destroyed if they do anything other than replace all their merch with pride material.

Guzzy cute/twink :marseyfemboy:

rDrama’s resident femboy catgurl pro-ana twink superstar :!marseylgbtflag4:

11mo ago #4225471

Is this literally a sub for target wagies? lmao. imagine stocking shelves during the day then talking about stocking shelves at night. lmao.

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schmorgusbored they/them 11mo ago #4225399

If a fricking department store is the only place where you're finding your happiness you desperately need help, preferably from canadian healthcare. :marseymaid4:

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HeyMoon hey/moon :marseyfoxgloveyourself:

touch foxglove NOW :!marseyfoxgloveyourself:

schmorgusbored 11mo ago #4225438

its really depressing how they are actually using, and presumably believing corpo speak. corporate worship will be the next iteration of man's spirit quest tbh

FormerLurKONG Bar/barian Chieftain of the Marsi people :marseybarbarian:

11mo ago #4225245

As a trans person, I also felt such joy this year and last year when I saw target carrying things like binders.

Binders full of trans? :marseysmug2:

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour FormerLurKONG 11mo ago #4225519

They don't sell binders. I am happy to see them sell binders.

1066_International T/A House Edgy. Ride or Die. :shadowrage:

11mo ago #4225223

My problem with the situation is that Target caved to a small, vocal, violent minority. About 70% of this country supports LGBT rights and by capitulating to these domestic terrorists, Target is only emboldening them.

The majority of people are ‘Pro-LGBT’ in so far that they believe what adults do in privacy is their own business and are fine with gay marriage and work place protections. I have a feeling the stats will change when a dude with a wig is arguing that they need to go into the same bathroom as their wife.

Also complaining about a small vocal minority pushing their own narrative is peak.

:marseyhorseshoe:

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1066_International 11mo ago #4225450

i know some chill as frick rednecks who say shit like "i aint got no problem with the queers. they all right. but i cant stand no :!marseytrain: s." that is almost a direct quote

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hurlywurlycurly they/them Guzzy 11mo ago #4226160

they said the same shit with gays back in the day, and blacks before that.

"i don't mind blacks, they are all right. but can't stand BIPOCs"

"i don't mind gays, they are all right, but can't stand cute twinks"

The :marseytrain2: s will win, it's inevitable.

It's already begun tbh, with stuff like the following:

"i don't mind passing :!marseytrain: s, but can't stand non passing or nonbinary s"

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hurlywurlycurly 11mo ago #4227012

actually true. darn. :marseysad:

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Patriarch Land/lord Patriarch of Dramastan Guzzy 11mo ago #4225653

I know regular people who say almost the same thing

Qar butt/naked Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist Patriarch 11mo ago #4225946

The best time to drop the T was yesterday. The second best time is now. /r/LGBdroptheT

Gotchfutchian hee/hee install linux today 11mo ago #4224900

here is the cycle

>company does train representation

>rightoid seethe

>rightoid boycott

>stock price falls

>stock price causes company to retract

>rightoids do not forgive

>but now leftoids are mad that company 'dosent care for LGHDTV'

>leftoid boycott

>stock price falls furthur

>goto line 1

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usernaw valid/boy :marseysurejan:

Gotchfutchian 11mo ago #4224942

and at the end of the day: :marseysal:

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour usernaw 11mo ago #4225525

someone explain this marsey to me

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TheThing the/thing VETERAN OF A THOUSAND PSYCHIC WARS

FuckfaceMcClure 11mo ago #4225554

There was once this user called @Sal. Her gimick was that she would always say drama or events would happen "in two weeks". The joke being they'd never actually happen, because in two weeks, it would be another two weeks from there. That little white marsey represents her.

Last heard she has a mini stroke and now doesn't remember who they are :marseyrain:

Dude they/them Christ is Lord 11mo ago #4224883

I love friendly fire

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GovernorOfNewYork dude/lmao | :marseygrilling2:

House boomer :!marseyboomer:

| Discordmisic :marseygroomer2:

| 11mo ago #4224802

Buy Target's pride merchandise! Outpower those motherlovers. That's why they resort to violence, they know they're losing. I bought pride toy mice for my cats and a pride ribbon stick toy. My cats really like them!

Spend your money on useless crap from a megacorp to own the chuds :marseylgbtflag3:

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IP_IVIasquerena I/We I’m 100% certain that at least half the mods do not have Faith or the Holy Spirit. GovernorOfNewYork 11mo ago #4225116

I bought pride toy mice for my cats and a pride ribbon stick toy.

At least they aren't reproducing.

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EEE E/EE GovernorOfNewYork 11mo ago #4225113

That's why they resort to violence

How do these people function on a day to day basis without basic pattern recognition? Literally years of lefties attacking people over the most mundane and r-slurred shit and they still think they're the ones under attack. How do vast swathes of people become so brainrotted that they can start a fight then clutch their pearls the moment people start telling them to frick off?

EEE 11mo ago #4225194

A. They are wingcucks and the wingcuck’s natural position is to own the other side at all costs so hypocrisy or cognitive dissonance doesn’t cross their minds or if it does they do not care.

B. Redditors are starting act like their (poor) interpretation of Popper’s Paradox is an actual legal defense to give them carte blanche to assault chuds.

Jaukea cute/twink :!marseybeanangry:

11mo ago #4224655

So weird to see every redditor instantly calling them terrorists over a boycott. Narrative setting is real

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Downie Big/Fren Techno 金闕玉晨天尊 , Corporate Shintoist, Descendent of Thule, Enemy of the Demiurge, Consort of Lilith Jaukea 11mo ago #4226018

I guess BLM and BDS are terrorists after all

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour Jaukea 11mo ago #4225531

um sweaty there were chuds livestreaming their going around the store threatening hecking violence

Jaukea 11mo ago #4225449

it's enough to make a man seethe

IP_IVIasquerena I/We I’m 100% certain that at least half the mods do not have Faith or the Holy Spirit. Jaukea 11mo ago #4225122

Stochastic terrorism is when something I don't like happens

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Dude they/them Christ is Lord Jaukea 11mo ago #4224890

Still mad about the wizard game boycott and I’m guessing finally coming to terms that Reddit isn’t the real world

M he/he Tungsten 11mo ago #4224397

Why'd you sell this toddler chest binders? And this other one tuck-ready swimwear?

@tyuijvhvhcfcjf was just following orders!

The future is female

Don't forget to turn off signatures in settings!

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Chris_Pratts_Hairy_Cunt they/them 11mo ago #4224325

imagine how much cheaper they could have made their way out of this if they just came in and used their executive amex black to "buy" all the offending merchandise and then donated it to the dumpsters out back :marseyxd:

Niggerfaggotretard Rape/nash :marseyitsover:

11mo ago #4224193

Lot of :marseytranspearlclutch: going on there

NO BI/POC :!vegetaleave:

11mo ago #4224018

Idek what safe now means

:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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Sner bird/marsey 👨🏻‍🦼👨🏾‍🦼 ⚧ 🚱🦅✨ :marseytiny5:

NO 11mo ago #4226282

:pla#tyneet: :m#arseyneet:

AmeerVann Yes/Please Black on Red like I whip the Sambo. NO 11mo ago #4225256

It's been defined for a few years now by my father. Sensitive as frick everyday.

L ong/Nose :marseylongpost:

Serial Serious Replyer :marseylongpost:

11mo ago #4223748

>rightoids boycot it so they remove the merch

>leftoids then boycot it because they removed the merch

Holy shit how do you put yourself in this position

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AverageEnjoyer they/them Timbersexual L 11mo ago #4224166

Overextending yourself by getting your business involved with things that aren’t your business.

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AverageEnjoyer 11mo ago #4224365

Wrong answer.

If they just stayed involved with generic pride merch theyd probably turn a profit. Capitulating to the mob is the only sin

Dude they/them Christ is Lord L 11mo ago #4224894

Hey look it’s this regard with another regarded take

CourtneyGears Hoe/bot Death to Squishies! Dude 11mo ago #4225742

legbutts love to consooom. Target's only strategic error was the tucking panties.

Part of the fiscally-left, socially-right movement. Join today! :marseyexcited:

Dude 11mo ago #4225016

Dude they/them Christ is Lord L 11mo ago #4225024

Can’t read text too smol sory

TheGuntForRedCocktober kit/kat AverageEnjoyer 11mo ago #4224227

KoreanKongKing hey/hem Tallest Ricecel on this site. Increasing the East Asian Birth Rate by ANY means necessary L 11mo ago #4224082

All they needed to do was make the 4th of July stand bigger than the :marseytrain2: stand.

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yolomeister they/them I payed 25 DC for this flair and all I got was this lousy text KoreanKongKing 11mo ago #4224156

All they needed to do was to make american themed tucking panties

Hordofboars bing/bong L 11mo ago #4223952

Foid-led marketing and merchandise :marseyextinction:

TariqNasheed cum/coom Take the thong out ya bussy playa L 11mo ago #4223827

This literally just happened with the Dodgers and their drag nun show thing.

This morning, Cum went to the park. I went with Coom. And Cum brought Coomer frisbee. At least I think it was Coomers. By the end of the day, Cum started throwing the frisbee to Cumself.

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collectijism Mien/Fuhrr yahweh gave us human faces to spare the Jews the distress of having servants who look like animals L 11mo ago #4223793

Soros literally

Trans lives matter

Yakub they/them L 11mo ago #4223765

Today I will stand directly in the middle of the culture war crossfire

:#marseyclueless:

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yolomeister they/them I payed 25 DC for this flair and all I got was this lousy text Yakub 11mo ago #4224158

OMG GUYSS IS TARGET CENTRIST??

:#taycelebrate:

jesus je/sus :chadjesus:

yolomeister 11mo ago #4224448

Centrists (soy) and radical centrists (closest to godliness) are not the same

sirpingsalot he/him Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or my thoughts on age of consent laws 11mo ago #4223617

It's OK to boycott companies that don't align with your political positions!

:#soyjakanimeglasses: :#chadyes:

No, not like that!

:#soycry:

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BazballShill kill/carp Ace Attorney :takethat:

sirpingsalot 11mo ago #4223814

pay with your wallet guys.....

(such boycott is dumb tbh. it only works on mediocre replaceable products. that's like saying my karate works only on geriatric patients)

_________________ Half/Kang My name a Salvador6feet6. I like! 11mo ago #4223512

As a person of career and social life (POCSL) I don't have any idea what's going on.

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BingoBongo they/them Retired patriot :marseysaluteusa:

~~I'm so happy in the Congo~~ _________________ 11mo ago #4224957

This type of person-first language intrinsically defines an individual as being only a career and social life. Terminology should reflect these traits being only part of a rich internal world of a body endowed with personhood. The preferred phrasing is therefore Person experiencing Life (PEL).

Tesla truck/er Official tesla account _________________ 11mo ago #4223550

Target started selling clothing designed to sexually repress children and some satanic stuff from a satanic designer which was pretty gay. Rightoids started b-wording out after their bud light non win. Targeted cut down their gay products to only 30% of the store as opposed to 80% which upset everyone who cared about target.

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tempest me/me Tesla 11mo ago #4223689

It's so beautiful. Leftoids are pissed that Target is reducing their gay shit and rightoids are pissed that Target had any to begin with.

:#marseyhappytears:

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Horned_waifus_shill bra/sil Token Brazilian 🇧🇷 tempest 11mo ago #4224070

Truly just two sides of the same r-slurred :marse#ycoin:

cabalist vi/vim :marseyballerina:

11mo ago #4223372

My fiance is in training to be an Ulta/beauty TL right now, and on Friday when the comms happened, they and their trainer (another queer TL) were the two who had to spearhead moving everything. We cried a lot that night.

:marseylaugh:

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Horned_waifus_shill bra/sil Token Brazilian 🇧🇷 cabalist 11mo ago #4224076

it's so beyond me how leftoids think its a good thing to say how much they're crying over [current thing]

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CrackasinDallas they/them Horned_waifus_shill 11mo ago #4226001

Modern leftoidism is just the weakest person you know saying 'I am very scared'

collectijism Mien/Fuhrr yahweh gave us human faces to spare the Jews the distress of having servants who look like animals cabalist 11mo ago #4223800

If only @collectijism could see a group of bubbas peeing on them while they had too cry move all the baby tucky swimwear

beamrifle he/him cabalist 11mo ago #4223535

Beyond pathetic

Qar butt/naked Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist beamrifle 11mo ago #4223965

I honestly wonder, did they really cry over something so meaningless or is it just exaggeration on the internet for attention? :marseythonk:

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CatFu Kung/Fu Qar 11mo ago #4225192

Idk I like to think it’s all bs, but the truth is I’ve met a disturbing amount of younger people :marseyzoomer: that flat out don’t get your job is just a place to get money, and that your real life is meant to exist outside of it. They keep insisting it’s super important work reflect their values, treating it as church instead of some shit place they show up half the day with the other cogs.

Management encourages this crap too because it’s easier to get people to accept bad working conditions if stocking aisles with plastic crap with no sick leave is totally sticking it to the fascist chuds. Somehow.

It’s like an entire generation somehow unironically bought into the BS HR presentations on how work is a family, and I swear is at the root of half the business drama we’ve seen the last few years. :marseythinkorino:

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Qar butt/naked Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist CatFu 11mo ago #4225287

Smartphones were a mistake.

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yolomeister they/them I payed 25 DC for this flair and all I got was this lousy text Qar 11mo ago #4224161

EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET IS A LIEE

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