Kiwi Farms Physical Newspaper - Possibly the dumbest idea I've ever had, 2023 edition 
"I sit and think of ways to break everything and now I want to test the postal system. Why? 
1. The Internet sucks. 
2. With printing, I can't be censored, the site can go down and I will have a way to contact the most important supporters of the site. 
3. It would be funny. 
4. It would create a physical presence that allows me to conduct legitimate business in a state, perhaps one like North Dakota which has a public bank I need a reason to join. 
5. I can accept payment by check. 
The biggest con is the actual work involved and needing to keep a list of addresses to mail to. 
However, like with all our merchandise, not everyone who buys has an account, and there is no association between account and subscription. 
I was thinking once a month or less frequent. 
I'm dead serious. I am insane. I will start a newspaper in North Dakota. I don't care anymore. Frick the Internet." 
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Me reading kiwifarms the book edition
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Put it on the coffee table to see if anyone recognizes the KF logo and then you both can threaten to dox each other.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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The Nullcronomicon can only be bought with souls
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Is this a skyrim reference?
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There's a whole West Wing episode about it
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Did he see the joke I made a few weeks ago about KF being distributed through dead drops hidden in bags of garbage and take it seriously?
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One kiwifarms weekly please
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Finally something to read while I smoke my pipe and my wife pours me coffee at the breakfast table
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Unironically sounds comfy. You don't need to visit the Farms every day but once a month? Read a newsletter about all the important happenings of the last few weeks? I'd buy it
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The (male) filter elevates this so much kekekek
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Can't if it's true. Not in the US.
And it's not like you can't libel on the internet.
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Dramatard legal literacy always impresses
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No. In the US, telling the truth is an absolute defense against libel no matter if it's a public figure or not. The public figures bit is that in cases where the information was not true, a public figure plaintiff must show that the defendant had "actual malice".
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Lolno
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Average reddit understanding of law
Publishing facts about private citizens is NOT illegal
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lol public disclosure of private facts tort lol
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Publically published information, outside of actual doxxes
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north dakota is in muttland, not bongland.
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Even Bongland has truth as an absolute defence (although this is pretty recent IIRC). A country that doesn't is Japan
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The onus is on the person suing to prove KiwiFarms is knowingly and intentionally, spreading lies. Jersh might be fine.
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I love Null
it's just a shame everyone on his site is the unfunny kind of sperg.
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Amazing idea but
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The paper would get sued relentlessly.
Inb4 the cases have no merit ("not libel if it's true" etc), when you're up against people with legal and financial resources they will open case after frivolous case against you, you will have no choice but to spend your own money on defense.
The purpose of lawfare is not to win in court but to grind your enemy to dust by costing them as much money as possible.
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Sure, but what's stopping them from taking this approach with the site?
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Nothing really. It hasn't happened because Rdrama is small, virtually unknown, and has not sufficiently pissed off multiple
with the connections and resources to dedicate to a relentless repression effort
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I highly doubt that, in this day and age, a person unmotivated to sue the website would be inspired to do so because of a newspaper.
That said, the website is mostly user generated content,so section 230 applies. He's also been sued repeatedly for the website and, to my knowledge, never lost. Though admittedly, the people suing him are rarely capable of basic social function, so the lawsuits weren't exactly the strongest.
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Sorry for some reaosn I thought you were talking about rdrama
Again the point of lawfare lawsuits isn't to win but to waste and drain financial resources of the target. Until the target entity gives up on trying to exercise its rights. It doesn't really happen unless the plaintiff is extremely neurodivergentally motivated
though.
In the case of KF the fight is also outside the realm of law in the form of
using end-around tactics to cut 
off from the internet infrastructure resources that keep the site functioning. The law doesn't matter because the ISP is supposedly within its rights to "willingly" deny service or cannot be legally compelled to provide service.
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My point is that they could file lawfare right now against Null for any of his comments on the site, anything he says on his podcast, etc. I'm not convinced that his putting the same kind of things into print and mailing them directly to subscribers would make that worse; if anything I expect there would be stronger precedent and cultural norms protecting that. Maybe it would let them drag him into a worse venue?
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Hard to say. Maybe I'm wrong. It's just that KF made enemies of some very nasty people, some of whom continue to retaliate mercilessly and relentlessly. They don't seem to care what political taboos around free speech norms they have to commit to get what they want and some of them have already been successful at getting the (((narrative))) to declare KF a "hate" forum. Years ago most liberals would have defended KF purely on principle if nothing else. Today however there is a lot less political will to protect expression that finds itself on the margins of acceptability.
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Does North Dakota have those SLAPP thingies?
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I don't think so
Even if they did it wouldn't help because the establishment won't go to bat for wrongthink. They'll shop around for a favorable court or jurisdiction that allows a negligble burden of evidence on the plaintiff to allow the lawsuit to go forward.
"Hate" speech is still protected speech but there is an ongoing effort by a sizeable minority of lawyers, politicians, NGOs, and others to contest that protection. Merely making "hate" speech a legal gray area could even be enough to bypass virtually any SLAPP protections.
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bring back zines! we can do our own one
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I would unironically love contributing to an rdrama zine.
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Self-compiled kiwitards dox list? I'm going to want a copy of that
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It already exists in the form of addresses on merchandise runs. The important thing is not associating individual accounts with each address. Though, I would be concerned if there were a leak of addresses from the merchandise runs...
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They'd still try to ruin your life but WSB and side hustle guys would've been smart to buy the silver coins to flip them.
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Monthly I think is a bad idea, quarterly I'd definitely subscribe, if anything but to just have then eventually fifty years from now to show off
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The Full R-slur War continues apace
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Sigh, guess
freedom 
isn't free 
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He's going full blown abolitionist.
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Print media is already on the decline. Null's basically saying "let's go into a failing industry!"
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I don't think Null realizes how much work and money this is going to be. It's not interactive at all either and Null's prose is awful
Unless he's somehow going to publish posts
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The Internet rediscovers zines, film at 11.
Good idea, you never know what might happen in the future, after all.
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See how that worked for The Sun in Liverpool
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Imagine the comics and opinion sections lmao
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The best part about Kiwi Farms was always the summaries of the turbo strange. If it's just the top 15 new weirdos that's enough
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KF is already basically a tabloid rag. Put some pictures on the cover and you could sell it at supermarket checkouts.
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Where can I sign up
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READ ALL ABOUT IT
S GROOM KIDS, ZOO SADIST KILLS PUPPIES AND INTERNET R-SLUR DOES SOMETHING R-SLURRED. ALL HERE IN THE DAILY KIWI.
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