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The most incompetent game developer (Valve) is currently mass banning cheaters in Counterstrike - the only caveat is that this is a massive false wave of bans :marseyxd:

tl;dr

everyone knows that cs has had the largest amount of cheaters

thankfully valve are insanely good at spotting them

and by insanely good I mean insanely r-slurred to the point of satire

in yet another fiasco they have currently a mass detection of cheaters and are banning people like crazy

unfortunately, it is not the cheaters who are banned but completely innocent people

for the xth time this year

:#marseyxd:


Reddit

There are dozens of threads about it:

/r/CS2

VAC wave spotted today [300+ comments]

Massive wave of gamebans occurring right now [350+ comments]

I'm aware that speaking about the cause of these bans is against the sub's TOS but it is nice to see some action.

EDIT: FWIW I've heard from quite a few different people that a large amount of legit players are getting hit in this banwave so I'm not sure what's going on...

** SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A MASSIVE FALSE BAN WAVE **

/r/Counterstrike

I have been wrongfully game banned

My friend permabanned for no reason


Steam

Literally hundreds of threads popping up every minute :marseykekw: see here Counter-Strike 2 Discussion

Examples

๐Ÿ”ดโœ…Who got the VAะก/GAME BAN - PRESS HEREโœ…๐Ÿ”ด [1000+ comments]

Don't worry! You won't be banned forever. Basically (read other reasons below) people who updated Nvidia drivers today or yesterday and came to play CS2 were mistakenly banned. You can read and respond to the comments below for yourself. These bans will be lifted for everyone, don't worry!

โ—๐˜๐จ๐ฎ ๐œ๐š๐ง't ๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐๐ž ๐ฌ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐š ๐›๐š๐งโ—

Mostly those players who played for the last 12 hours received a ban

upd #1 Some people write that they received a ban without updating the drivers and having an AMD driver. But most still updated Nvidia at night. Don't worry, the more people got banned, and they got a LOT, the more likely it is that you will be unbanned like everyone else.

upd #2

Some people with VERY expensive inventory also got banned. Examples:

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198249862550 - 55k$

https://steamcommunity.com/id/vinoooooooooooooooo - 52k$

https://steamcommunity.com/id/aaadi777 - 30k$

https://steamcommunity.com/id/syk19980407 - 36k$

upd #3

Some people can make trades despite being blocked! Try trading something with your friend, so at least you won't lose your expensive inventory. Write whether the trades work for you or refute it

upd#4

The manager of the G2 team also got a ban))) https://steamcommunity.com/id/pecagg

upd#5

You can't remove Vac/GAME BAN by yourself now! You will have to wait for an update from Cs2 itself. Therefore, the solution to this problem does not depend on you.

upd#6

The owner of a large trading service has been blocked https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CsDealsOfficial https://steamcommunity.com/id/jambozx/inventory (50k$) 1101 Steam level

โœ”๏ธVAC/GAME BAN - DON'T WORRYโœ”๏ธ

We all know that players are experiencing issues related to game bans or Vac after the latest update. I know this is a very complicated and disappointing situation, as we, players who do not use cheats, want to build a community where the use of cheats is less and less. But that doesn't justify any kind of comment saying that the bans were right, especially because they weren't. We have countless cases (now with over 3M open discussions) of people who actually don't use any kind of cheating and have also been banned.

Of course, many cheaters were also banned, but the issue to be analyzed is that many players who do not use any type of cheat were also banned for no apparent reason, after yesterday's update.

There have been episodes similar to this in the past where bans were handed out due to a bug or incompatibility with drivers or even internal game settings, and this, historically, was resolved and the bans were reversed.

What we have left for now is to wait for a statement from the company in this regard, as well as the reversal of these bans.

Feel free to leave your comment and remember: try to remain respectful and put yourself in the shoes of the player who never used cheats and had his account blocked. I'll bring you news as soon as possible! Thanks for your attention so far!

UPDATE #1 - There are always people who want to somehow attract attention and be funny in any type of publication. It turns out that, whether we like it or not, there were several unfair bans. So just stop typing as if everyone got banned fairly. Stop trying to be funny, you're just commenting on this kind of thing because luckily it didn't happen to you. But nothing stops it from happening too! Take care!

UPDATE #2 - This situation is very complicated, my friend. I know it's pretty disappointing to log into your account and see that you have a game ban or VAC on file. What we have left is to wait until this whole situation is resolved, because what I'm seeing happen are people who, until this morning, had no bans, are being punished and having their bans registered for now. The number of banned people continues to grow, apparently when you enter CS2 the ban can come. So what I recommend to everyone: DO NOT OPEN CS2. Wait until this situation is resolved!


HAHAHAHA Valve are so r-slurred it is not even funny this is like the fifth false ban wave this year :marseyxd: :marseyxd:

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how do we know it's a false ban wave and these people aren't cheaters?

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If they weren't cheaters they wouldn't have caught the VAC ban. Cheaters are liars, don't let them manipulate you. Valve doesn't mistakenly hand out VAC bans.

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:marse#yxd:

:marse#yxd::marse#yxd:

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:#marseyxd:

:#marseyxd::#marseyxd:

:#marseyxd::#marseyxd::#marseyxd:

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Benoit B. Marseybrot

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tbh that's where I am too, I still remember when Blizz banned a ton of D3 accounts in a huge ban wave. It turned out that some of the people who got caught up were actually innocent, but they played D3 on Linux via WINE which messed up their detection. But the vast majority of people bitching never used WINE... they were just cheaters who "totally never cheated".

You can never trust cheaters, just about nobody is going to be like "yeah I paid for some cheats and used them and that's why I got banned", they'll always spin some sob story about how they're 100% innocent.

Literally unless I personally get caught up in it, or someone I know and trust, I assume they're all justified.

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neighbor actually typed GNU/Linux

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:#marseygiggle:

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Word filter

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oh oops silly me

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cheat devs actively encourage their users to claim to have been falsely banned specifically to shit up the discourse

but valve did make a similar frick up not long ago so this happening again doesn't surprise me. cheaters will always try to bandwagon on whenever something like this happens though

The October 19th patch notes for Counter-Strike 2 say Valve is โ€˜reversing VAC bans for affected players'. Valve has added a โ€˜startup check for incompatible AMD graphics drivers,' and this should fix the issue. These โ€˜false VACโ€˜ bans were caused by fans enabling AMD's anti-lag/+, which resulted in tampering with CS code.

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There is also the possibility that cheaters are liars and Valve is r-slurred :tayshrug:

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that's what I said :marseyhmmm:

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Yeah I get that they're infallible but usually false bans are reversed within a few days. It's annoying but being unable to play a specific game for a few days as a fluke is just :marseyshrug:

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Blizz bans Linus users all the time.

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Deserved.

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No pain no gain.

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The amount of famous players caught cheating like all the speed runners made me realize how rampant cheating is among serious vidya scene

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:marse#yxd:

:marse#yxd:

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Trust the science


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17191743323420358.webp

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.:marseyxd:

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that'd require VAC to work which is a chance in a billion, but would be EXCEEDINGLY dramatic if it was the case. I hope it is :marseypraying: .

My guess is whatever AI they were training to detect cheats made an oopsie


dude bussy lmao

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I know there was a recent anti-cheat kerfuffle that was due to AMD drivers hot-patching executables :marseyxd#:

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Kill quite literally every single AMDcel

!codecels do your part. see an AMD user? Kill an AMD user. Stick to the CPUs :marseyindignant:


dude bussy lmao

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as an AMD user plz do. I'm in hour 6 of trying to compile pytorch and pyaudio with gfx803 ROCM support and it's literally cancer. Did the whole thing jsut ot realize I compiled against python 3.10 (unsupported by both) and had to install 3.11, recompiled, realized I was still using 3.10 as default and wanted to die

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I warned you about the stairs AMD bro

https://media.giphy.com/media/OZP6jGvPfTapSSLPeg/giphy.webp

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You did. But I was not filling to pay literally double for a nVida and in fact am considering selling this card and buying a hacked model with 16gb of vram because again I hate giving cyber jews my money

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wya tho? is there some way to smuggle you a novideo card with land of the free prices?

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:marseycheerup#:

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:marseyhesright#:

The bang for your buck you get on the CPUs is great but even then their BIOS and drivers are kind of butt. Ran into so many bugs.

At one point my 6th gen NUC's iGPU was working better than my 5700G lmao

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HRNNNN STOP WITH THE HOTKEYS

I'm sick of trying to merge visible layers in Photoshop and here comes Radeon software, thinking i want to record video despite Hotkeys being disabled

I really love dealing with mandatory BIOS updates where the file needs a specific name, a specific partition type, and go into a specific USB port. And "yeah it's normal to take like 40 seconds on the first boot, just keep biting your nails." Then falling victim to the SoC fricky wucky anyway and needing to RMA my processor.


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:marseymanysuchcases#:

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And now my feet are cold. I just remembered, mid-vidya, that my work truck needs more washer fluid. Chevy cheaped out and didn't put in a windshield heater so you need to use like half a gallon of fluid when it's frosty out. Then when it's low, it'll alert you EVERY FRICKING TIME YOU COME TO A STOP that the fluid is low.

I was mostly enjoying playing Walking Simulator 2 with a phlegmy cat on my chest

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Tbh now that Intel has decided to cater to the market for GPU weirdos, AMD should definitely bow out and make some even better gaming CPUs

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:#marseyretardchad:

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I heard valve banned a bunch of people and are rolling it back. Is it because of this?

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People will be unbanned but that's an almighty frick up from the GPU maker

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I've seen countless "why was I banned???" posts and every time it turns out they deserved it.


We need trans hedgehogs! Trans hedgehogs belong here! We love trans hedgehogs!

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Yeah, I would see it a ton on private trackers. Almost every time they wouldn't hide their tracks well either. They'd literally sneed they never did X but literally have a post of them doing X on their Reddit account lol.

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Their historically shitty k/d ratios

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Yeah this happens literally every ban wave, cheaters come out and cry nooooo I totally wasn't heckin cheating

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Valve is using AI to detect cheaters:

Never trust AI :marseysnappy:

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When they figure it out that will be cool. Cheaters are lame. I did it once on Warcraft 3 for fun that removed the fog of war and then I got banned after winning a couple games and getting reported. Dumb kids will do it a couple times just to do it (pushing limits of systems is fun) but enforcement is obviously necessary

AI anomoly detection will get really good at some point. But the super neurodivergent will always be false positive'd

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Welcome to automatic ban systems, kids!

Where a griefer with 20 alts can report you 20 times and slap you with a 30 day ban!

I'm happy I paid $5 for my game on g2a, and not $59n

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