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Conservatism is a provably wrong political ideology.

Is conservatism even an ideology these days? I thought you needed ideas to be an ideology. :npcoppse: isn't a governing philosophy.

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yeah conservatism is now literally just

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WAAAH I DON'T LIEK NEW THING

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Conserve what works, throw away what doesn't seems like the perfect ideology to me

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that is a very idealized view of conservatism tbh

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All ideologies have an idealized definition of themselves, that's what makes them an ideology

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My ideology is do good things and don't do bad things and if you disagree with me you hate good things and/or like bad things.

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Correct

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That sounds like Kaizen not a political ideology you can vote for lol

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Correct - no conservative politicians actually represent conservative values

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Real conservatism has never been tried

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The only things that matter are Christ, Family and Firearms. Anything that infringes on those must fear a bullet. That is the ideal world and level of privacy we need.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17146493335425022.webp In the grizzly darkness of the far future, there is only moid seethe.

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WAAAH I DON'T LIEK NEW THING

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A few of my friends are very conservative. They won't stop brining up AI and power production to me but when I try to discuss it they just say "We just aren't there yet" like that means anything.

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Maybe if you put that big evolved brain to use you could interpret what people mean even if they weren't spelling it out for you.

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Pissing off neolibs is unironically my no1 political priority. I already know that the rest of the shit on my wishlist is never gonna gonna come true.


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:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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Making libs seethe. Killing the planet, and attacking the capital is a valid idealogy, chud. :marseyindignant:

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Attacking capital, based marxists

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:#marseystalin:

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Pretty sure killing the planet is bipartisan. :soysnoo4: It's why they dropped the whole, saving the planet aspect for Werewolf the Apocalypse.

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Conservatives just made a huge W with returning abortion to the states.

Conservative states across the US are passing school choice.

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overturning Roe is such pyrrhic victory for the right: they've neutered their biggest vote-getting issue and suddenly made a lot of women who didn't care about politics into engaged voters that hate them.

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suddenly made a lot of women who didn't care about politics into engaged voters that hate them

:marseysurejan: Thinking abortion is a men vs women issue. :marseysmug2:

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Women always think they're leading some kind of screechy revolution when they hop from current thing to current thing they saw on Instagram.

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I feel like the blue wave should have happened during the midterms if that was the case.

ultimately posting on social media about outage functions as political action for most people.


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Libs won votes on abortion in Kansas and Ohio. Foids in the real world care, it's not just online outrage.

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It doesn't help that red states are writing completely r-slurred laws.

Much like how late term abortions are never going to be a winning issue for the left, banning medically necessary abortions is going to losing issue for rightoids.

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Libs literally just have to post an example of 14-year old girl being forced to give birth to attract foid voters now.

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Better than killing a baby

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Kansas had a mini civil war over abortion. I wouldn't view it as a unified issue there.


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In a 2-party :marseypony2: race puppet show, winning and losing are on a continuum.

Nothing kills cultural liberalism faster than Democrats in power, for instance.

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It's only a pyrrhic victory if you don't really care about flimsy supreme court rulings co-opting power from states, which I'd argue most conservatives care about very much. Changing the tide there is, in the long run, more important than engaging some opposing voters.

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>which I'd argue most conservatives care about very much.

This is what I don't believe even a little bit. At least in America in 2023, "conservatives" just want to own the libs and slavishly excuse whatever bullshit DDR wants. Maybe like 3 people in the world care about localism and small government.

(FWIW, I do think Roe v Wade was a legally flimsy decision and in some ways it's better for democracy if the voters decide. Even heavily Catholic Ireland legalized abortion in a referendum)

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My yuppie-butt government class in high school had a day about Roe vs. Wade and the students mostly agreed that it had no real constitutional justification to exist and that a conservative Supreme Court could easily get rid of it. We were right!

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Libs literally think the 14th Amendment is just a legally binding gif of the gay kid from Moonlight crying, and it was put there in 1776 by Joan of Arc (he/they).

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If you're talking about r-slurs arguing on twitter, than sure. But in the real world, small government conservatism isn't dead, even if it is shouted over.

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Maybe like 3 people in the world care about localism and small government.

See how red states tend to be highly centralized at the state level and strip almost all power from cities and counties so the areas where there are left and center majorities cannot vote to shape local politics accordingly.

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See you were following along up until this point, but now your brain shut off. Have you ever been diagnosed with ADHD?

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No, I just don't respect you enough to pay close attention to your posts. Conservatism is a meme, not a political philosophy.

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My posts? You werent responding to one of my comments genius.

So again I ask have you ever been diagnosed w any ADHD or adjacent mental diseases? Answer honestly

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It's hard to impress upon non-attorneys how utterly dog shit of an opinion roe was (unless you subscribe to the idea that even judicial opinions should just be politics). Casey didn't cement it as precedent and was just a baby step to getting rid of it.

It shouldn't still surprise me, but the "defenders of democracy" losing their mind and calling SCOTUS fascist for returning an issue to the voters still cracks me up.

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Democracy is when the executive makes rulings unilaterally that you like.

Fascism is when voters vote for mean man

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Fascisim is when the state devolves power, chud :marseyagree:

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Just make abortion federally legal and free so women get what they want and stop voting so we can fix the country

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>they hated her because she told the truth

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Sure, short term. You can make a ball bounce, you can't make it defy gravity. Now that abortion is something you actually have to debate to preserve otherwise in most places it can simply be written out, it will be the topic of much debate.

I think a lot of pro-choicery isn't deeply considered. It's a default setting. But now that can be more than a hypothetical debate. As people learn more about what abortions actually entail I think that tide will shift.

But then again, the majority of abortions are black, as Margaret Sanger intended pbuh.

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Don't forget allt he 2A stuff!

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Conservatism still exists, but they're r-slurs. :npcoppse: is a very solid governing philosophy - most laws right now are just trying to cope with the fallout of the Civil Rights Act, which was trying to cope with the fallout of the Civil War, which was trying to cope with the feud between Northern and Southern elite classes.

Conservatism now is a liberal position.

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What "conservatives" are fumbling for is reactionary politics.

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I'm a rightoid patriarchalist one-party vanguard state enjoyer. I want to build not just to conserve.

The truest "conservative" (small-c) now in the sense of the status quo is a globalist neoliberal who voted for Joe Biden, but would have preferred Pete or Bloomberg and has doubts about universal healthcare or something.

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>a globalist neoliberal who voted for Joe Biden, but would have preferred Pete or Bloomberg

Based and Davospilled

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Cons are too cucked to market forces in a way that isn't traditionalist. I would be interested in an alternative.

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:marsey#hitler2: hi its me the alternative

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Conservatism is conserving tradition, some hardcores conserve all three (family, fiscal, social traditions) or just one or whatever.

Technically, conservativism isn't wrong but it is always inevitably going to lose to social progress so it tries to function like breaks on progress that's going too fast thanks to technology so that humans can adapt at a much more safer pace.

People, on both sides, don't understand that, of course.

Conservatism is "hey we should stop chopping breasts and cutting peepee' off teenagers until we figure out what's going on."

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The absolute state of obese reddit tier foids lmao

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worse it's a French Canadian male from Montreal who posts in feminism and antiwork

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There are no such thing as a french canadian male

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Yes there is. Montreal was the place monkeypox exploded from their gay bath houses lol

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French canadian men arent men.

Theyre french :#marseysick:

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!francais are Quebecoids truly French?

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Missing the both are stinky subhumans option

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God no I can't stand them

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Conservatism is wrong :marseyhyperthonk: and feminism :marseypussyhat: is good but it's not my job to educate you sweety. Kill all men

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Holy shit this is unironically this first :marseywinner: time I've seen sweety spelled correctly since about 2015.


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it looks wrong

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"Conservatism" is just whatever was the previous iteration of liberalism. Previous iteration of liberalism was raunchy and "s*x positive" hence now we have "grab them by the kitty" Trump and Andrew Tate.

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THIS. Andrew Tate is a degenerate liberal, just a less overtly anti-male version.

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I think thats pretty smart. Either you get us. Or you are r-slur.

Thats how this site works

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>Conservatism is a provably wrong political ideology.

Conservatism has been debunked! It's over for rightoids, time to feel the Bern.

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provably

Factually


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redditors think that putting a gun to your head would make you agree with them politically, thank god they don't know how to be likeable or charismatic enough to actually make progress on any of their r-slurred ideas

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Whoa, what empirical scientific tools did they use to prove that in a lab? I've been trying to get my hands on a Marxometer to replicate these scientific facts in a lab setting for years

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Kids are rebelling against the dominant ideology that their teachers and parents use to scold them.

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It's basically the same shit that's been happening forever lol. Christian teachers used to tell you not to call each other strags, now wokescold teachers tell you not to call each other strags.

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Communism has an appeal to both men and women around the world, where people come together in working-class solidarity and with it, the belief that a better world is possible flows from that.

Here, in the belly of imperialism, finance capital and corporations dominate the economy, the politics, and the airwaves with their bourgeois ideas and so ofc it's depressing as heck.

Ah yes communist regimes which were famous for the empowerment of women and the poor

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they always find a way to blame capitalism lmao

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Capitalism is when men can't frick.

And what can you expect from an ideology put forward by an r-slured incel who lived with his mom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith#Personality_and_beliefs

He never married, and seems to have maintained a close relationship with his mother, with whom he lived after his return from France and who died six years before him.

Smith was described by several of his contemporaries and biographers as comically absent-minded, with peculiar habits of speech and gait, and a smile of "inexpressible benignity". He was known to talk to himself, a habit that began during his childhood when he would smile in rapt conversation with invisible companions. He also had occasional spells of imaginary illness, and he is reported to have had books and papers placed in tall stacks in his study.

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:#marseyautism:

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Unironically just like me fr fr (although I don't live with my mother sadly)

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>groundbreaking economist

>Mega neurodivergent

:#marseymanysuchcases:

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Darn, everything makes so much sense now.

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Was...was I Adam Smith the whole time?

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No because you never have nor ever will accomplish anything.

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Soviet Union was kinda good at gender equality in some ways. Both men and women got to work in shitty pointless jobs and stand in line for hours for basic necessities. They sent loads of women to the Gulags.

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They sent loads of women to the Gulags

Wtf I love communism now :#stalinjam:

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Communism was much harsher on women than capitalism ever was. Women were supposed to work like men but still do their traditional duties: cook, clean, raise children and take care of the old/sick family members. As much as redditors jerk themselves raw over muh social programs no one wanted their elderly parents to end up at the mercy of the state.

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They also forced homeless and druggies to work. USSR was based.

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And subsequently having to bribe said homeless druggies with vodka and krokodil to actually do their job does sound kinda based ngl

It's like US tipping culture, but less absurd and unhealthy.

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Elder care in the Soviet Union worked well because you either died in an industrial accident instantly due to the extremely unsafe factories, or the doctor killed you due to incompetence (all the medicine is saline solution since it was all traded for vodka)

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Soviet Union was kinda good at gender equality in some ways.

Unironically the worst part about the USSR. Russia became infertile before it got rich.

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The soviet union wasn't real communism though

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i like how redditors can never come up with some new great way of governing people so they just go straight to fantasizing about being under a dictatorship and just assuming they'll always hold 100% of the power

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With the west commiting suicide, a dictatorship is probably exactly what is required.

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only if i'm in charge of it

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zoz

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Beria was sort of how I imagine the average feminist Reddit mod would behave if given nearly unchecked power though

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seems about right tbh

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I want to have the Soviet policy on drug addiction instituted in Portland.

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Communism will forever be the go-to ideology for the r-slurs.

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My 9th grade male students this past school year were the most entitled, chauvinistic group of kids I've ever worked with. 20 year career. They pissed me off so much.

I don't wanna jinx it, but bros, I think we're so fricking back.


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A lot of burger zoomers are latinx now lol, white woman antics don't work on them.

:chudsmug: :marseymariachi:

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They also all look like this

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The face of fascism is more degenerate than I could ever imagine.

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Edgar :marseymarseyloveorgy:

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Nah if they were Latinx she'd be whining how much they call each other neighbor.

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The kids are alright

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Redditors shocked that complaining about men all day doesn't make them like you

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Liberal's message to young men "You are the problem".

Tate's message "Get bitches"

Easy choice

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He is literally a human trafficker and he forced those trafficked women into doing pornography in Romania, and this disgusting scrote is who the men choose...

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I don't know anyone who actually likes Tate. I lurk /r/teachers plenty, and even they say kids just repeat his name because they know it gets a rise out of shitlib foid teachers. A lot of Gen Alpha humor is just repeating the names of people or things that are memes (we would never do this of course).

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there are many incels on the interwebs who idolize him

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!zoomers

Did anyone else repeat memes from Flipnote animations but never knew they were actually from YouTube videos?


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Na think thats just you man

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No me and my friends would quote memes nobody got or saw the source material for.

The early GenZ experience was aping millennials memes like that.


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i used to have a huge flipnote collection on my DS, it was a sad day when they disabled flipnote hatena for older systems

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You can actually use a work around and connect to community run servers.

https://www.sudomemo.net


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that's so cool frick i wish i still had that DS

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im a banana lol :platybanana: :marseyawesomeface:

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Yea its taking seriously children who will say bad things they dont believe to be contrarian to authority figures

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zoz

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The only reason I've ever properly heard of him is because they keep complaining about him in the newspapers my grandma reads. :npctantrum: :marseytrollolol:

I assume it's the same for today's teens :marseywhirlyhat: :marseyzoomer:

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hitler!

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Teenagers have an incomplete brain, so they only see Tate as he presents himself on social media :marseyshrug:

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Not exactly. He got bitches and then pimped them out. Which is pretty chad move

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It's disgusting and he should be shot

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Don't hate the player. Hate the game. The bitches can simply go home instead of doing porn in Romania

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every single human trafficker should be skinned, hanged and shot, and he is no exception

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Mfw the most unthreatening people are using the most violent words :marseyeyeroll:

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Hey, just letting you know your message could be viewed as being anti dreamer. Watch your wording next time!

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Your impotent rage is funny, Mr. Male Feminist.

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Even Greg Abbott? Because he does human trafficking

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Yeah I'm sure they can just go home at any time

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Yeah they could r-slur :marseynpc2:

He didn't hold anyone against their will ever afaik.

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Which must be why he's being prosecuted for it

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Exactly what happen to the girls from UK and US. They went home lol. They are in the EU , just go to any embassy for US/UK ally.

The whole lover boy scam works by the girls devotion to the lover boy. Once the delusion is over the girls understand they got scammed and leave.

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What kind of Christofascist nonsense is this

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Feminist :marseyterfdomesticabuse: end up not believing womyn have autonomy

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Cry harder

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It's disgusting and he should be shot

I agree. Tricking women who think they're going to marry you into being whores in Romania should be punishable by death.

Because s*x outside of marriage is degenerate and anti-reproductive.

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Pimping is paid cuckoldry.

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Quad, I agree with you about Tate, but libs are very unreasonable with men - it's not hard to see why they'll take anyone who's not a radfem.

Even though Tate is a degenerate feminist himself.

To quote a Motte user by the name of @Sloot (not sure if that's also our Sloot)

If you aggregate up Reddit women's reactions to threads like these (about men bungling initiation attempts)β€”and their dating advice (more like β€œadvice”) in general on approachingβ€”it shakes out to something like this:

Don't cold approach women. What kind of creep pesters women he doesn't know? Women don't date strangers.

Don't ask out women from class or work. What kind of creep exploits school or work to pester women who are a captive audience?

Don't ask out women from your social circle. What kind of creep takes advantage of his friendships or social circle to pester women?

Don't ask out women that you meet through hobbies like dancing or sports. What kind of creep takes advantage of hobbies to pester women? Women are there for their interest in the hobby, not to meet men.

Oh and don't message girls on online dating or social media. There's already too many creepy losers in online dating (like you) and what kind of creep pesters women on their social media accounts? Ugh, just because her profile is inundated with bikini pics and lingerie shots doesn't mean she's looking for sexual attention.

I would add something to this: You can approach a woman at a bar, but only if she isn't drunk and doesn't get drunk before you take her home. So you basically can't. The notion of "objectification", "male gaze", "sexual assault by verb", the expanded definition of "consent" - all of these are liberal rhetorical weapons against straight men and should not be respected any more than the SCUM manifesto.

@QuadNarca - how would you say a man should be able to approach a woman without walking into a state-backed social consequences minefield?

!chuds read my words and sneed

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Someone should post this on reddit somewhere.

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It would just get jannied.

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How tf are you gonna claim to be a woman respector and listen to women's words and not actions? That list is for losers to heed and only losers would listen to it

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That list is what libs will tell you in any individual incident, placed into aggregate by @Sloot on themotte.org to own the libs.

Unforunately, Democrats infest our insitutions and thus that list has legal backing.

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U deserve the negative kitty you get for taking that list seriously then r-slur. Its meant to filter r-slurs and u seem filtered. :marseythonk:

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That list is not what I believe, but what libs want to and do enforce. It's ridiculous, but so are liberals.

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He is literally a human trafficker and he forced those trafficked women into doing pornography in Romania

Darn how low would you have to sink to be less appealing than that

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My son you have a choice:

>Kitty getting Gigachad r-slur living a post Soviet mobster lifestyle

>Weak whipped ultrasoy who apologized for his existence

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Jealous you couldn't enslave those women yourself, "Chloe?"

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I would never enslave women.

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S*x work is work

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Hes an r-slured grifter but he doesn't need to be any better than that to appeal more than libs tho.

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Tell em bb

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Oh please those ladies knew what they were doing, sexual trafficking is a feminist myth.

That said I dislike Tate so I'm hoping he goes down

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I hate that degenerate r-slur, but public school teachers basically chased boys into his arms, so I guess he's what they deserve :marseyagree:

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I'd rather listen to my father, than a bald bong.

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you're wrong, because I like those women, checkmate misogynist.

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Sorry, we were talking about real men here.

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