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:marseytrad: How do you get over the fact Marcus Aurelius wife cheated on him with a gladiator? :marseycuck:

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I have been into stoicism for a while and have been using it to cope with life but learning this info has made me second guess the entire philosophy. Now whenever I try to be stoic I think about Marcus sitting in the corner writing meditations while his wife gets brutalized by a gigachad gladiator. Now whenever I think about stoicism it seems like a cuck philosophy. Was Marcus really the adam22 of his time? How can I get over this?

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Beautiful bait

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Wait a christcuck destroyer was a cuck?

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I feel like OP rn bros.

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Only if they happen to my people

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OK that is one way to purge the stain of being cucked.

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Because women are wonderful chud

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The Historia Augusta mentions adultery with sailors, gladiators, and men of rank; however, Faustina and Aurelius seem to have been very close and mutually devoted.

Lmao once again !r-slurs literally just taking the Roman equivalent of tabloid gossip magazines at face value. I really wonder how many people in the future will believe stuff like Michelle Obama really is trans or something (he is though)

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History is a lot more interesting when you don't read it critically. So if you aren't a historian why bother?

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You can also read it too critically. The main thing I learned from my history degree was that most historians are actual r-slurs and roughly the academic equivalent of Redditors.

In order of credibility from most to least, it goes: Venerable Bede, Herodotus, the Odyssey, the Bible, Livy, any historian after roughly 1960, any historian after roughly 1985, any "marxist" historycel

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We had a 'historical methods' paperl that was essentially about how history is crafted to advance current year political ends(and that's a good thing sweaties :marseyclapping:)

You won't believe how inane the whole paper was. Like there was a paper under that about an exhibition in Manchester and Liverpool about American slavery :marseybipocrentfree: Some family made some toys that looked like slaves they had liberated in Brazil, for the kids to play with after they went back to Bongistan. There was a whole paragraph about how this shows they remained the property symbolically of the white family and how slavery never ended. Also how rap somehow contains the history of the 'Black Atlantic' whatever that means.

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Writing that shit myself was the most soul draining I've ever done.

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Communism is based if you use it to dunk on commies.

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There is still good history being done, you just have to down niches so dark only the most neurodivergent of gods dare go. Far from the light of women and mainstream academia.

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>In order of credibility from most to least, it goes: Venerable Bede, Herodotus, the Odyssey, the Bible, Livy, any historian after roughly 1960, any historian after roughly 1985, any "marxist" historycel

literally r-slurred

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Cope marxoid

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Reading it critically is part of the fun, though!

Reading some thousand year old dead guy and trying to guess how much of what he wrote is true and how much is slander because the emperor denied him a promotion and fricked his wife is peak drama :marseyfluffy:

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Yeah but would you rather not believe an emperor set fire to Rome and then played his lyre as it burnt? :marseykino:

Or the Persians actually had a gorillion soldiers instead of maybe 5% more than the Greeks?

Also at least from what I've seen a lot critical history tends to impose modern viewpoints on people from the past which I personally loathe. Religion could be a motivator for war, not just wealth or power. Saints and religious movements weren't political movements for 'marginalized' groups, even if they prominently participated in/led them, it was just outbreaks of actual religious delirium. IDK, maybe local scholarship is too coloured by midwit materialist Marxists.

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Oh I agree, "presentist" historians are fricking terrible. Those that can't explain how people of the past thought without using 20th or 21st century buzzwords should work at mcdonalds instead

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God I hope so. She is such a drag. This theory is the only interesting thing about Michelle Obama.

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I hope it's true because the part about killing the gladiator and fricking his wife in the dude's blood should be true. The closest thing I've seen as an effective way to uncuck oneself is to force the woman to stay in the relationship and bang a bunch of :!marseytrain:s, but the blood bath thing has the least cope I've seen yet.

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For the uninitiated:

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I love Suetonius' The Lives of the Twelve Caesars because it will just jump right from "he was fiscally prudent and left the treasury in good shape when he died" to "he fricked a horse and married it and it had a wedding dress and it was male and a child and he even looked at porn".

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As our ancestors searched for the Holy Grail, so too shall our descendants search for Obama's birth certificate.

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I wish there was some fricking career out of Classics besides Academia. I fricking wish, though I would probably just do Renaissance/Medieval shit tbh. 98% of all Latin writings haven't been translated into a modern language. There is a large number that've never even been read. Byzantine history is even more understudied, did you know over half of all extant Byzantine writings haven't even been read in modern times? There's so much shit there !historychads

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>Byzantine history is even more understudied

Only read this. Pretty cool how they kept the Turks, the western Papal supremacy and the Arabs at bay for almost a thousand years

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Justinian is the most controversial and important mortal to ever walk the earth

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He deserved death for bankrupting the empire

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There :marseycheerup: are all sorts of careers β€œout of” studying :marseyklennyreading: classics, it's just that none of them are β€œin classics”. It's an absolutely prime :marseycertifiedangus: major :marseygaygeneral: for middle :marseyfinger: management or retraining into something high status later.

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That's the semantic bullshit I want to see more of on rDrama

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I know I'm not dedicated enough, but if you're dedicated enough :marseyitsallsotiresome: to get the PhD there's plenty of undemanding HR type sincures where :marseydrama: you could pursue occasional publishing as a hobby. Even if you won completely as an academic you'd spend at least as much time teaching and doing faculty drama :marseytea: as you would :marseymid: working :marseylifting: a bullshit :marseyitsallsotiresome: job.

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Go read it then nerd :#marseynerd2:

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Reading Byzantine Greek literature is a nightmare because different scholars used different eras of Greek, from Platonic Attic Greek to Biblical Koine Greek to contemporary Greek. Latin is easier by a long mile, though after I finish up with that I will work on Greek. With that being said a lot of it isn't scanned or anything, and requires you to visit these libraries and monasteries.

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Sounds fun actually :marseyneat:

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Greek :marsey300: seems super :marseygoku: easy to get caught :marseyflirt: on like the koine track and find your niche surprisingly overcompetitive

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Certainly there are some niches that are too overcrowded like Biblical or Attic, but even then most Ivy Leagues have at most 1-4 people graduating a year who specialize in Ancient Greek studies. It's a dying field.

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Yeah if you can actually :marseyakshually: pick up a book and read you won't have much competition for teaching languages

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This is why all language teachers are fricking terrible.

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I'm sorry my entire knowledge of who Mark Antony was (he was a friend of Caesar and such a good friend he banged Cleo after Caesar was yeeted by Brutus because Caesar banged Brutus' mom) comes from Shakespeare:marseyitsover#:

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