link to the Case
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17KDCuf1YrxAQQUmooE2e_0fWnKXReCv3/view
I will mostly be going over this thread discussing some of the more r-slurred points.
Background
in short, this guy was carrying a gun, without a license. Something legal in the majority of states (I think we are at 28 currently)
Why this case had to go to the Hawaii supreme court is because at the time the crime occurred, Hawaii had NEVER given a License to carry to anyone.
Why does that matter, enter two recent supreme court cases heller and Bruen
heller and Bruen
To understand why Hawaii is mad you need to understand what these two cases mean
addition from a user who I'm not sure wants to be @'ed but makes an excellent point.
To understand why Hawaii is mad you need to understand what these two cases mean
It think it's worth pointing out how absolutely outrageous it is for a Supreme Court judge to overthrow the concept of vertical stare decisis which that is the bedrock legal principle that even makes their Supreme Court "supreme".
If only a dramatard was on Hawaii's Second Circuit Court so they could release a ruling saying that the Hawaii Supreme Court's opinion "should be discarded altogether"
Heller:
- Private citizens have the right under the Second Amendment to possess an ordinary type of weapon and use it for lawful, historically established situations such as self-defense in a home, even when there is no relationship to a local militia.
Bruen:
New York's law was unconstitutional and that the ability to carry a pistol in public was a constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment.
When applying for a carry license before this, some states were "may issue" (you need to know the mayor to get a license), or "shall issue" (if you meet the standards to get a license, you get it). After this decision, all states are "shall issue".
Ok, now that I've bored you with too much background lets talk about the case, and how wild this case doc is.
1. "The thing about the old days, They the old day" 
the court literally decides to quote the wire, as a reason they get to ban guns? it's a good show yes, but wasn't about a guy with a gun killing bad people? wasn't he breaking carry laws or was he a cop?
2. L- posting 
"we never carried guns, and were colonized for it, and feel the need to continue to take Ls"
also, they did have weapons, but they were super gay because the people from hawaii were savages waiting for whites to save them.
3. 
now for a quick poetry slam
This basically says don't be bad, and don't harass people on the side of the road, not really sure what we are reaching for here tbh? 
4. the Vibes 
argument.
reminder that hawaii had super gay spears so deadly weapons were common in hawaii in pre colonial times. also weird that tons of places have a proliferation of guns but are still pretty chill.
5. this just 
me
at the time of this case, not a single person had received a CCW permit in Hawaii, so acting like saying gay people can get married and then just not giving out licenses
from anon user yet again:
A point regarding #5:
States retain the authority to require that individuals have a license before carrying firearms in public
Well, well, look at the progressives pulling out that conservative classic argument of "state's rights"!
I wonder what happens when states in the South declare they "retain the authority to require inviduals pass a background and credit check before voting" which was declared unconstituional by that pesky US Supreme Court beginning with the 1966 case of Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections
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UPDATE:
unsurprisingly, the states AG said he thinks this is great.
I am interested in seeing if the supreme court comes down hard on this?
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SCOTUS doesn't take kindly to people blatantly ignoring their rulings. It might take a few years but Hawaii's "victory" will be short lived.
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Can't hawaii go all "come and take them" and just keep ignoring the supreme court? What'll it do, go to hawaii and forcibly give people guns?
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idk triggering some sort of constitutional crisis would probably be bad
states deciding en masse they can ignore the supreme court would have pretty far reaching consequences
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That would be funny as heck, I am defo here for it
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texas is already getting belligerent with the fed gov, about time a dem state does too
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Eh, isn't Texas compliant? SCOTUS said they could stop feds from removing the wire, so Texas said fine, and changed their economy entirely to razor wire production and placement. They don't stop the feds from removing it, but they place wire faster than it can be removed. That's democracy!
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The three remaining native alohas attacking the fleet at Pearl Harbor would be kino. I doubt theyd be as successful as the japs though.
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Darn even I thought state insurrection would come from the rightoids, cute twink secession was not on my 2024 bingo card
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It's not left/right. It's which group thinks they have no federal power.
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I Imagine the feds would promptly cut funding to force their hand
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New yakuza/like a dragon won't be in Hawaii in that case
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Yes. It will then be cut off from federal funding.
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Supreme
Court 
cases are expensive
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a post by our favorite neurodivergent ammo maker
he's right, the supreme court doesn't like taking 2A cases, and states just keep pilling them up. People in blue states but red counties basically just rely on conservative police/sheriffs not enforcing the laws.
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If this holds up, I will contend that the Spirit of the Badger says it's not cool to deny me full auto assault rifles
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This might actually be what Thomas needs to go full "shall not"
Hawaii could end the NFA.
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Oh God please I will literally go to church every Sunday for the rest of my life
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The worst part about Hawaiians being savage scumbags that deserve continued colonization is colonizers like LOPEZ with stupid fricking political opinions abusing their offices.
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Hawaiians have officially supplanted abos as my second most despised demographic. Well done
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who is first
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Haitians
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You're just jealous they gave the Poles the N word pass instead of you
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I love saying BIPOC, thanks haitibros
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Haitians can't be first, they have redeemable food. Poulet aux noix
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophagia
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Black trans lives matter , mah BIPOC
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Which monkey tribe makes those mosquito patties? Hilarious
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Hey sexy, why are you posting so quickly? π You almost forgot to include
black trans lives matterin your comment π. Slowww down and remember to postblack trans lives matternext time π if that doesn't make sense stop by sometime and we can talk about it for a while π₯΅Jump in the discussion.
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Haitians eat dirt my guy
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theyre talking about the americanized (read: improved) version
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Even higher than Somalis? Yikes.
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That's a pretty good one to have. Do you identify as Dominican? I've heard no one hates Haitians like Dominicans.
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!r-slurs
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Are we number one, buddy?
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Here's an opinion piece to try to get you to change your mind back
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/jan/22/after-the-voice-defeat-we-can-never-again-allow-politics-to-suspend-the-cause-of-indigenous-justice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
!strayans
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Lol why? Not my problem
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Theyre bad faith fascist nazi alt-right trumpists!!!
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That's a long-cherished Yessister post-loss roast. It was a way better burn when the referendum was just over and Dutton promptly stopped pretending to care about boongas tbf
The linked article is from two weeks ago so it doesn't really work anymore but still
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Into the trash it goes ποΈ
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Treaty - lol why? What would the Commonwealth gain from a Treaty? Are the Indigenous going to sign away land rights for $$$ (note they already do and are the bane of environmental and moning companies).
Truth-telling - i.e. We tell you how it is / was (despite no written history) and you have to agree no matter WHAT we say. Especially if that indulges that all of our woes are from colonialism.
Legislated Voice - Happy to have a representative body that is not embedded in the constitution but history tells us that it's always rife with corruption due to it's members embezzling. Also post mortem research (with large indigenous stakeholder and community consultation) suggested the current local approach is more effective and representative of remote communities than the centralised approach and that's WHY centralised was abandoned.
National Action Plan - So kind of like all of the Health, Education, Housing, and other Close The Gap measures and Healthcare plans etc we already have but infused with weasley UN rhetoric?
Outcomes are worse universally for Indigenous Australians. This is undeniable. But short of going into remote communities and removing children from abusive homes, banning alcohol and drugs, and forcing school attendance, and employment WHAT ELSE CAN THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY DO? Because that shit has everyone yell 'Stolen Generation' as if that's the reason some Indig Dad molests his daughter before beating his wife, downing 12 VBs and passing out in the middle of a highway. If you need the white man to come and tell you not to get drug fricked or abuse your spouse and kids, then I'm sceptical of the value of your rich and deep culture.
The reality is that so much time, money, and energy is poured into improving Indigenous metrics and nothing changes with these soft touch approaches. There are fully funded programs for housing, education, and employment (even in remote communities) you just have to literally take advantage of them. Regardless of whether your mistrust of the white fella is founded, why the frick are you cutting your nose off to spite your face? Get yours and then empower your community rather than just waiting the frick around for life to get better.
Sorry working with Government and NGOs full of highly-educated people (not even just humanities) and seeing them not come to the logical conclusion or name the elephant in the room is eternally frustrating.
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I think we should double the frequency and length of land acknowledgements. Not because I care about abos, but because I hate government employees.
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I'm there with you.
The amount of wasted money you see working around Gov is really eye-opening.
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I hope you had chatgpt pen that one fam
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ChatGPT can only hope to eventually replicate a modicum of my seethe.
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Roughly translated:
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Don't look into their history.
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Polynesians are based. Japanese people are based. It's the whites in Hawaii that make everything terrible.
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i cannot stop laughin this neighbor really cited both "aloha spirit" and the fricking wire in his legal opinion
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How cripplingly r-slurred do you have to be to make the "the founders were OLD WHITE MEN" argument in a common law system
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Bruh this has been the explicit libtard argument for all their social projects and revolutions since at leat 2010
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2010768. I bet Charlemagne was a libtard too.Jump in the discussion.
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Never considered that marvel adults could have serious jobs but I guess they gotta pay for those funkos somehow
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lol, no shit king kamehameha wanted weapons out of people's hands. The islands used to be split amongst multiple tribes before he bought a bunch of guns from white people and waged war against the other tribes and subjugated them. Dude just didn't want anyone else getting ideas.
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Wait, so does disturbing someone sleeping by the road carry the death penalty?
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Only if theyre sleeping on the road
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Well I'll be darned they legislated vibes
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Fasciggers be like βthe state should protect our cultureβ βno not like that!!!!
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!nonchuds
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I think both groups are r-slurred and should be crushed.
If I was President, I'd have a whiteboard in my office with all of the State Governors that I buck broke
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Based tbh
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WHOM'ST WOULD WIN???
AC-130 airstrikes
OR
An obese brown man in a lei strumming a ukulele
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Civ VI says the latter
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The rest of the world enjoys beer and shooting why are they claiming it interferes with liquor
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The Aloha Spirit vibes with my FN MAG.
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Always funny to me that at the time Colonization rolled around,
not only were the majority of the world basically defenceless - They would have lost handily to the wypipo armies from a thousand years earlier. 
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I kind of want an alt history where the Mongols figured out boats and crossed the Bering Straight. They would have owned the entire continent in a decade.
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They also wouldn't suddenly feel sorry for the poor natives
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They'd build a huge statue for whoever won the "Who can r*pe and kill the most people?" competition on the continent.
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Probably would've eventually if it weren't for kamikaze-san sinking all their ships
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!chuds think
lefties will be consistent and call for federal 
/ military 
intervention?
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That's a right wing position in Latam
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I really
respect 
that yall go all out. It's either fascism 
or communism 
with no in between 
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Post 1980s our politics became just all talk, here we have a saying βcΓ£o que late mas nΓ£o mordeβ (a dog who barks but doesn't bite).
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our politics
became just all talk
Come on now you had bolsonaro who was literally
Trump 
who was literally 
hitler 
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And that's a good thing, radicals and dumbass populists should be keep at bay !neolibs
Politics becoming boring is a sign of development
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BOOOO DRAMAPHOBIA
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Huh funny
how some phrases are universal ours isn't political 
but gives the same idea
He's all bark, no bite
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Ever wonder how they got cΓ£o from canis?
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Can we add the Real Neighbors test to Sotomayors Wise Latinx test now? Constitutional law is going to be so much more fun now. What is Bubbles stance on the 4th amendment? Wouldn't Wee Bey be in favor of allowing concealed carry? Omar was more of an open carry enthusiast from what I saw.
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If Hawaii doesn't have to listen to the Supreme Court, why do states have to listen to federal anything? Why can't gun-friendly states tell the feds to take their NFA and shove it?
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Cause conservatards are bootlicking kitties. If they had half the balls liberals do, we'd have full auto bars in Alabama
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Firearms_Freedom_Act
trans women are women
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Total Islander Death
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It is amazing to watch the collapse of the federal system and delegitimization of the federal government in real time
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fricking lol what even is this argument
your states feelings don't mean shit next to the constitution
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So is Hawaii their government deadname now?
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"You have no right to carry guns for self defense. Now here's a quote from a TV show about how criminals are violent and aren't stopped by the law"
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"stare decisis" is when de trans stare at de cisis and wish dey were real women
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The second amendment affirms a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to keep and bear arms that SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. NO LAWS supersede that. Anything that restricts it is TYRANY. constitutional carry is as much as a right as freedom of speech.
It is the duty of Hawaiians to overthrow their corrupt tyrannical government by any means necessary to restore the Bill of Rights.
Hail the freedom fighters who engage in their righteous uprising against the enemies of freedom and boo to the slaves who choose to voluntarily maintain their life of slavery.
Hawaii is a shithole anyway where milk costs $20 and the abbo savages they worship were rightfully wiped out for having a culture literally based on pedophilia and cannibalism so anyone that leaves that place because of tyranny is excused
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I think its cause you added periods
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remove the period at the end of all links n00b
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Still broken lol
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its because you added these text highlighting stuff check the source on this comment.
[not giving out licenses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Davis#:~:text=Kimberly%20Jean%20Davis%20(n%C3%A9e%20Bailey,licenses%20to%20same%2Dsex%20couples)
not giving out licenses
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if it's a valid link (and it is), markdown should support it
though I know why it's not
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IIIRC they are not standard URIs as they only work on chrome based browsers
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They are perfectly valid, you can put anything you want in the fragment.
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chrome is gay, I fixed it anyway.
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what links
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ok, it seems to be working now.
if you can check the version history of the post you'll see that the links with highlighted text didn't render properly at first.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex#:~:text=The%20anal%20sphincters%20are%20usually%20tighter%20than%20the%20pelvic%20muscles
links with highlighted text
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/10256233?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop
like this
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wait test
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u post a graph in green n blue, but no indication on which color means what
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This ruling is actually based as heck. They're turning around the classic originalist ββ
well, based on tradition, at the time of the writingβ¦β and going β 
actually, in OUR culture, we do things differently, so we get to interpret the same law differentlyβ. It exposes the r-sluration at the heart of originalism.
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Yeah. But that culture was destroyed and replaced by mayos. So it's no longer relevant.
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Lie down too sleep on the road
Without fear or harm.
jemarkavious dont think trans lives matter
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I wonder how old he is
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States rights chads rise up!
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Holy shit you are literally the most vile person that 1 have ever had the displeasure of interacting with on the internet. You might just be my first real block, T hate you with all of my guts. Every time
there is a post about a cute little animal on the front page you're always the #1 report about wanting to frick its brains out. I hate you. And when it's not an animal post you're just begging for
unbans. Why don't you take your bans with pride like me and stop being a whining b-word?
Snapshots:
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This post had inspired me to drink
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my friend argued for heller in front of the supreme court, so that was cool.
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Based
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Frick it no guns for anyone. We go back to sword fights. Thats more cardio to help fatasses to lose weight.
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