So this discourse has been brewing for a couple of days, but since it seems to stick around, I figured I'd put something together. Prepare for the worst - this is about autism, bad faith xitter dunks and worst of all - g*mers.
Background
All of this started... 19 years ago, in January 2005.
That's when Resident Evil 4 was released. Since it was a popular and well-received game, like all vidya slop it was eventually remade. The remake came out in March of last year and it set the stage for an eternal discourse - the infamous yellow paint:
One of the more significant changes in the remake compared to the original was the introduction of this yellow paint, smeared over interactable objects. The purpose is clear - set these objects apart from their environment to guide players and help them navigate, find objectives, etc. Now it is well known that g*mers are fricking r-slurs that would literally eat their video games unless they're made to taste bad and obviously need all the help they can get, but nonetheless this practice ruffled some feathers. It was seen as lazy, blunt, excessive handholding and destroying their immersion. The more unhinged g*mers saw it as an insult to their intelligence. This ladder in particular drew ire and was the subject of memes:
At the time this was a small, short-lived discourse. But it was a precedent and established yellow paint as a symbol for all that is wrong with modern video games (allegedly).
But now, it reared its ugly head again...
Final Fantasy and THE DISCOURSE
Since the video game industry is creatively bankrupt, the inciting incident this time is yet another remake. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth released a demo about a week ago and just what did the poor g*mers have to see there? YELLOW PAINT!
Who isn't familiar with random mountainsides splattered with paint all over? This was seen as an exceptionally silly example of this sort of player guidance and for whatever reason, this time, the drama really took off. As far as I can tell, the following was the initial tweet that started the drama:
I personally have a feeling the use of "virus" reminded people of the "woke mind virus" phrase that gets thrown around and it infused the whole thing with some of that culture war zeal, leading to it becoming a bigger deal this time around. Plenty of shitflinging in the comments, but we also see some of the early strategies deployed, such as accessability.
However, the main angle of discussion seems to split the neurodivergents into two camps. One the one side, those that think developers are lazy and should do better than resort to yellow paint. And on the other side those that believe g*mers are fricking stupid and need visual aid. For those of you paying attention, you might notice these are not actually contradictory views, which makes this massive drama just funnier because it's so pointless and in my opinion supports my idea that this is really just another culture war front in the most serious business of video games. Anyway, as with any good discourse, both sides rallied around a shitty comic portraying the other side as stupid:
And then people argued a whole lot about dumb shit. What follows are some selected "tentpole" posts for your reading pleasure.
Righteous paint enjoyers
Need I remind you guys of that really dumb streamer trying to play TOTK?
DSP catching strays in this as well as advertising Ame . DSP in general morphed into the archetypical "r-slurred g*mer" used by both sides as an example to illustrate what devs need or should not cater to, respectively.
oh no i can clearly see the things i can interact with, god forbid
Rare occurence of the gaming r-slur everyone tries to enable speaking up
This guy in particular started a sub-discussion about the realism of colored indicators in general:
Leading to many,
And what had the other side to say for themselves? Let's check it out.
Stupid, whiny paint deniers
The original comic drew quite a bit of ire, with many questioning the premise:
Yes, that is it.
"But without the paint, people would easily miss what you're supposed to do!"
But a somewhat curious thing that happened is that many of the paint opponents started to notice that the paint supporters seem awfully beligerent, considering all people are complaining about is clumsy design. Isn't that a good thing?
The "Yellow Paint" discourse is people raising a design point
Very true. It almost sounds like....
...there was bad faith in the air:
Grillpilled enlightened centrists
This is all I'm going to say about the yellow paint discourse
Couple of great examples of less intrusive player guidance in that thread. One of many such threads that popped up.
This last humorous take brings us to...
Memes and general clownery
Also apparently there's a limit for adding files, so you're just going to have to actually click the links for once.
the yellow paint discourse was a punchline 12 years ago and no one has done it better since
Stanley Parable mentioned
Added some yellow paint to our browser so g*mers know what they can click on
World's least funny browser just had to get in on the action.
Put a bunch of yellow paint on my front door so I don't get lost when trying to leave.
covering my toes in yellow paint so she knows theyre interactable
the yellow paint virus strikes again ... lazy butt level designers ...
vintage meme
surprised there's no splatoon marsey
Conclusion
Not much to add here if you paid any attention. Obviously g*mers need guidance and obviously there are better ways to do it than just dumping a bucket of paint everywhere. Really groundbreaking stuff that apparently people feel the need to endlessly discuss. In summary:
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remember all the great puzzles in hl2? I felt like einstien when i solved the use empty barrels to rasie the bridge so you can jump with your buggy
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In the thread I linked about great examples, HL pops up too I think (or a different thread). The point is, games absolutely need some guidance, but the best guidance is one where the player doesn't even realise they received some.
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I can't find the gow compilation video but this one makes some very good points about how shit gow was with hints, !g*mers
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Someone wished on a monkey paw to end the era of silent protagonists
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I prefer the one where they outright designate DSP as the average player representative
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@A [Bug Report] youtu .be links don't honor timestamps in embed, check above comments !jannies
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works fine for me
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I tried in firefox and edge, even virgin chrome its the same, the embed links start at 0:00
ff chr
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try now
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still the same
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who is dsp??
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DarkSydePhil, a rather oldschool streamer infamous for a) being terrible at video games while loudly blaming "poor design" for his own incompetence and b) jacking off for like 5 minutes without realising his camera was on the entire time.
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Also Jinxxthinker wants to be his wingman at an orgy or something.
!jinxxthinkers
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Didn't he turn on him? Not quite sure.
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I like 39daph, a not-tiddy streamer who is loud, obnoxious, apathetic and casual to the maxx about the games she plays while refusing to take anything about them seriously. It's a fun thing to see her trample all over any attempts by the devs to get their vision through.
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I first knew him as that guy that always played games day one but used a fricking camera to record his tv.
God I miss old gaming content, however terrible it may have been.
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Sounds like the average g*mer to me
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I don't understand what people see in GoW.
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Valve games are probably the most focus tested games ever.
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True but there are different ways of using testing.
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That requires good design though and the games industry is now being flooded with shit designers.
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