Canada's capital, Ottawa, has been having issues with homeless drug addicts. In a small area about 1km down the street from the parliament building they have several homeless shelters, a liquor store, a safe injection site, and a safe supply (free drugs) clinic. This has created an area that is an absolute dump and as expected there's strung out addicts everywhere, higher crime, more needles on the ground and no one that lives there is happy. If you want to see some homeless dude sticking needles in their peepee or a crazy person robbing stores then this is the place to be
This is the area:
This is what the homeless shelter looks like in 2023 street view, there's even paramedics helping with an OD
Over the last year or so this has been an ongoing topic of discussion on /r/ottawa and over the last month there's been a post every day or two that's 200+ comments of people arguing about whether or not criminals should be arrested or if addicts need more free drugs to stop them from killing themselves.
There are generally two groups fighting.
1. The pro compassion people that say to trust the science and safe injection works. This includes a city councilor who calls the criminal addicts neighbors.
2. The pro law and order people who don't want to be harassed every day.
I'm too lazy to write this up so please quote your favorite parts, there's a ton of seethe.
Animal tranquilizer in street drugs raises alarms (204 comments)
22 suspected overdose deaths in Ottawa in first 4 weeks of 2024: OPH data (178 comments)
PSA: Growing concerns around the toxicity of the unregulated drug supply(119 comments)
Child brought to CHEO after putting syringe in mouth at Ottawa park: paramedics(638 comments
I have called OPS about once a month for the past year because of yelling and screaming right outside my door. People have vandalized our corner store and left needles and garbage in a driveway I share with my neighbours. I really can't take it anymore.
Today's letters: Drug use is making Centretown less and less safe (430 comments)
Troster: Remember, people who use drugs are also our neighbours (377 comments)
You don't even need to sort by controversial for this one, even /r/ottawa knows this is a
Ottawa, Why? This hurts small businesses! (289 comments)
Looks like insurance isn't covering this one
As drugs overwhelm this downtown block, is safer supply the problem or the solution? (263 comments)
Bonus: The homeless shelter opened a second location somewhere else and go figure it's a shithole
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CHUD ALERT CHUD ALERT CHUD ALERT
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!leafs we simply have not invested enough time and money into safe injection and safe supply to see whether the system works or not.
This example is in bad faith, there's a multitude of studies showing how safe supply positively influences those afflicted with a dependency. Has anyone looked into whether these people were unhoused? We should give them more drugs, more injection sites and free housing before we give into right wing hysteria and NIMBYism
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That doesn't go far enough anything less than free housing + drugs + a monthly stipend of the median income isn't humane enough
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We can do better than just median, subsisting is inhumane imo
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Look at what the studies consider a success.
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An idea.
Find an actor, give him two syringes -- one saline or empty, one filled with bleach.
He shambles over to skid row, sits down, and pretends to shoot up the saline one. He "passes out" and the unused bleach syringe lays on the ground next to him, full, begging to be grabbed by a junkie
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Whats stopping you from just leaving bleach syringes laying around? I doubt they could get you for murder or similar, its not like you forced anyone to use them.
So in short, you should do this.
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I feel like they wouldn't trust a random syringe laying around. It has to be near someone passed out so they think he was planning on using it
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That volume of bleach wouldn't even kill them
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Then fill it with fentanyl or whatever
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They'll just use narcan and survive.
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I dunno if junkies are that big into drugprepping beforehand. I don't think it winds up in the syringe unless they're going to shoot it right there and then.
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I seriously can't wrap my head around how giving addicts free drugs can be considered a good policy. How did it get to that? It's simply insane
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Diabetic shock?
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It's easier to feed an addiction than break it basically.
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It'd be cool if they could work a drivethrough or something while ripped. I mostly just see 'em slumped over asleep, the lazy dogs.
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Why not just give them versions of drugs so potent it kills them if they used it like normal?
That way we'll have compassionately given people the ability to die the way they want.
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Source: trust me bro.
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At least here in Winnipeg we have the yearly winter culling, imagine how bad it would be without it...
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That would be Vancouver
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Or the east coast. Our winter was soft this year.
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Is there that many junkies out there? Vancouver's been junkie central since the 80s.
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I don't think it's near that bad. We must be resilient to the economic stagnation by now over here. We dont have near as big of population centers where they'd go less noticed. And culturally we aren't as cucked. We're north of Maine, BC has the misfortune of being north of California and Washington State. They never stood a chance.
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Excellent post and links + screenshots is the superior rdrama posting method and thats the tea sis
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Just hire more maids.
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!teaparty why are jannies marking this as an effortpost smh tbh
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Because pseuds think "long post = good post." We literally have a bot to disincentive longposting yet the jannies now reward it. A house divided cannot stand.
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Why aren't we already janny chopping
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This but unironically
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I didn't ask for it, and it's not like I'm going to write up reactions for 2000+ comments on the homeless addicts. I did my best
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Do your best by pooping on Jannys
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Your opinion apparently is that people should be allowed to use reddit to organise criminal conspiracies and aid, abet, command, counsel, induce or procure criminal activity.
You. Are a mental midget. A functional r-slur. An intellectual cripple. A dipshit. Clueless. A waste of oxygen. Your nasal mucus has more cognitive capability than what is between your ears. You have no career future. You're incapable of avoiding the moral pitfalls of a children's playspace. You eat unidentified food off the floors of fast food restaurants. You think your feces is fingerpaint. You cannot be left unattended in the restroom for more than thirty seconds lest you choke on potty paper.
YOU. ARE. A SHITHEAD.
Burn everything you have that has a keyboard and go back to kindergarten.
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Child brought to CHEO after putting syringe in mouth at Ottawa park: paramedics(638 comments:
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As drugs overwhelm this downtown block, is safer supply the problem or the solution? (263 comments):
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'Things are basically out of control': Residents voice concerns over increased crime, drug use in Carlington (236 comments):
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