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Famous trans creator ContraPoints vagueposts, seemingly confirming an ancient 4chan schizo conspiracy theory

So given the obsession this site has with tranners, I don't think I have to explain who ContraPoints is. In short, she's a lefty content creator and makes video essays about stuff. What may be less known is that she also like to tweet absolute bangers and delete them shortly after. Here is an account tracking these posts, most of them are edgy jokes or ones at the expense of online trans culture. But today, she dropped this:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1711459982657569.webp :marseyt#honk:

Now first things first, the premise of the post relies on the meme/common occurance that a significant amount of the men intereted in trans women are secretly trans themselves, the attraction being based on living vicariously through the trans woman:

:mar#seyyes: https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114599827564626.webp

But that's not why Contra's tweet is spicy, it's about the later part, the vagueposting about another creator seemingly copying her entire YouTube career. People were quick to notice that this sounds a lot like it would fit perfectly into an ancient /lgbt/ schizo conspiracy about her and PhilosophyTube. PT or "toob", as they are commonly called on /lgbt/, is another trans creator making video essays with similar style and topics to ContraPoints. This combined with various hints ranging from the curious to the utterly deranged, the infamous "toob is a skinwalker obsessed with contra and also probably r*ped her" theory was born:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114599829787247.webp :marseysc#hizowall:

And then we were off to the races :marseyletsfuckinggo2:

wake up babe the most deleted contrapoints tweet of all fricking time just dropped

:marseyexcitedgif:

what did contrapoints mean by this

:marseyhmm:

did contrapoints just confirm the philosophytube 4chan conspiracy theory??

WE'RE CONNECTING THE DOTS :marseynoooticer:

Even the chuds are getting in on it, here's the old fart Sargon of Akkad with a whole butt thread. :chudjakdancing:

Real and based:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114599836704874.webp

Here is the as of right now still active, 300+ post /lgbt/ thread about it. Much jubilations about another seemingly confirmed schizo theory. Some select posts and images:

The contrapoints subreddit removed the post about this, nuked the comments, and restricted submissions.

Contrapoints is almost certainly being bulled behind the scenes to back down because "what if you hurt trans people in Britain!"

Frick that. Philosophy tube is fricking garbage. Her videos all fricking suck, she's clearly at least 30 IQ points below Contra, and she does the bare fricking minimum amount of research for her shitty fricking videos.

>THE TOOB INTERNET DEFENSE FORCE IS REAL :marseytinfoil2:

Vindication:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114599838562763.webp

im not seeing how this means contra was r*ped? i think it just means they were together and toob did a chaser to :marseytrain: moment? you people make up dots to connect out of the smallest shit

Look at this buzzkill, smh. :marseyindignant:

I am not contrapoints. I am a Contrapoints fan.

Contrapoints clearly actually understands the material she engages with. She is able to see viewpoints that are very different from her own and empathize with them, even if she winds up strongly condemning them in the end. While she has had some bad moments (like, girl, if the audio of your masked character sucks that hard, fricking over-dub it in post! frick!) but her videos generally demonstrate that she's actually a serious person. Even the funny costumes ultimately have some aesthetic points, IE, she's dressed in that ridiculous outfit in the "Men" video to really emphasize the "I'm literally a fricking woman!" point, which is ultimately the thesis of the video.

More than that, her videos have a fricking point. Almost all of them have some insight or idea that you could apply to your daily life.

PhilTube, on the other hand, is so fricking awful I cannot stand it. She made a video on AI that literally ended with "there is no ethical computation under capitalism." That's it! Just upend the entire fricking world economic system, that's the solution to the ethical issues of AI! That's the solution to everything, actually! Look at the pretty outfits! Look at the pretty lights! Watch all five hundred fricking hours of this shit video with no content! Pretty lights! You liked when Contra did pretty lights, right? And the costumes! Ignore that the video sucks, you like the aesthetic, right?

AND BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE PHILOSOPHY TUBE PATREON! SHE MAKES MORE THAN ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THE UK BUT SHE IS GOING TO GO ON A RENT STRIKE BECAUSE PAYING RENT IS UNFAIR! BE SURE TO GIVE HER YOUR FRICKING MONEY DESPITE HER FLOURISHING ACTING CAREER!

Frick that. Thank you for fricking posting this, Contrapoints. Frick Philtube, and frick anybody who says "BUTBUTBUT DON'T HURT OTHER TRANS CREATORS!!"

Frick that, she sucks! She stole from you! Frick her!

HOLY :marseylongpost:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114599837348032.webp

Another hater, SAD! :marseysigh:

This is very recent drama, so look out for further developments. :marseyoperasmug:

Edit: As I was writing this, it appears toob has started blocking people talking about it:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114604758763814.webp

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lol I was gonna post about this but you did a way better job. As a long-time toob truther I'm proud to be vindicated. PhilosophyTube has always been terrible and went from poor summaries of philosophical cocnepts that are worthless to begin with to being a more annoying ContraPoints with worse taste and opinions. Unrelated, but Toob started her most recent video with

This is the building where I was born! It used to be a hospital, but now it's luxury flats: apartments in there go for about Β£600,000! Ironic that I can't afford to live in the room where my life began.

As if that's at all ironic lmao

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apartments in there go for about Β£600,000! Ironic that I can't afford to live in the room where my life began.

>Can't afford

:surejan:

I'd ask if people like this and Hasan think we're all r-slurred but then I look at how many people watch and defend them and yes, they do and they're right :marseyaware:

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I can't imagine knowing or caring about any of this.

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Shut up, BIPOC

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Shut up, BIPOC

Brown hands typed this.

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You literally hang out with coons.

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They at least wash their hands. Unlike Indians.

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Yeah because they built a state of the art childrens hospital at the RVI and only private investors would be willing to make the literal early Victorian era building liveable when the NHS sold it off.

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The NHS wouldn't need to sell it off if they had more the tories didn't cut funding. :marseysoylentgrin:

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(S)he couldn't afford to live in the room when it was a hospital either what's her point

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That's exactly what I was getting at, except I didn't do it in a transphobic way. Do better.

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Irony is just when two things can be related to one another, no matter how tenuously.


Don't forget to turn off signatures in settings!

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The hospital i was born in got demolished.

The elementary school i went to was replaced with a daycare for r-slurs

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β€œReplaced”

It was always that way

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The only negative thing I will say about Contrapoints is that she will occasionally apologize for the tweets she makes that blow up Twitter and that's bad because she hasn't been wrong once.

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This is obviously a tactic of theirs to drop massive redpills in one instance and then, once it's been archived, to clean it up and apologize so to claim plausible deniability for the fallout that ensues. This is Grade A foid chicanery and why Hontra is (mentally) a :marseypass:ing :marseytrain:.

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Contra doesn't pass physically but still acts like a foid, which is an indication he's actually trans rather than an HSTS or AGP

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Not the confidently incorrect part?


:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114605929577882.webp do u have this with more pixels? :marseylego: :marseylego: :marseylego: :marseytiny3: :marseytiny3: :marseytiny4: :marseytiny4: :marseytiny5: :marseytiny5:

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i have one slightly bigger

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1702424178987628.webp

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i have one slightly bigger

:#eyebrows:

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:#marseyhorsecock:

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KNEEL BEFORE ME, PEEPEELET /e/marseycockvore.webp

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:#marseydisintegrate:

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:#marseywut2:

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thanks

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I like how the ...I feel happy comes off like the ending of some villain speech too

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Just zoom in. :marseyindignant:

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The only part of this thats schizo is the r*pe, the rest has been basically confirmed for years. If you dont agree you have zero noticing skills

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Yeah. PT is 100% a clout chaser and pretty much saw Contra's gimmick as an easy coattail to ride. I don't think that much is really not blatantly obvious.

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>I can't read

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114938925802662.webp

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:marseyschizowall:

Yeah bud I see right there where it says PhilosophyTube r*ped me. Clear as day.

R-slur

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Not sure why you wouldn't agree that chube has the plurality of the possibility space for being the #HeTooer given he 1) was contrapoints' ex-boyfriend 2) is a prominent leftist (out of all the 'prominent leftists' you can think, how many others know hontra intimately enough for an assault to happen?) 3) Has an inexplicably sour relationship with with hontra. It's as plausible now as the claim that PT was contra's ex boyfriend was, which we didn't know before today.

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I do agree but its still schizo because its seeing patterns and making inferences with little evidence based on the vibe of the thing and hidden messages

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I can't imagine knowing or caring about any of this.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1711462736288818.webp

:#marseyshesright:

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HSTS as in the HTTP header?

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As in homosexual transexual, a type of trans person according too a mostly discredited theory by Ray Blanchard. His views still see frequent ironic and unironic use on /lgbt/:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114656266737509.webp

Also why would @sincewhendoyouneedaccount love sucking peepee, who the heck chuds @sincewhendoyouneedaccount for following trans discourse smh.

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NCTS

:marseysweating: :marseysweating: :marseysweating: :marseysweating:

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they randomly add Kurt Cobain pic lol thieves!

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He was already wearing dresses to :marseyairquotes: subvert gender norms :marseyairquotes: or some shit in the 90's, 50% change he'd train out if he was born 15 years later.

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i think i understand why the UK is so transphobic now, its because all of the dudes in scottland are trans.

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Still woulda 41% shot himself in the face though.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp

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wouldnt surprise me if he was a repper tbh.

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almost always pass

usually pass

puts in tons of effort to pass and usually does

:#marseysmirk2: :#marseysurejan:

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puts in tons of effort to pass and usually does

>picture of Bruce Jenner

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>mostly discredited theory

Factcheck: You really believe that shit? Lmao dumbass neighbor 🀣

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Daddy Blanchard conducted his "research" by hitting on :!marseytrain:s at a bar, so go figure.

"I love sucking peepee" - ray blanchard, probably

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Keyed

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>found 93 coins

:praiseallah#:

!slots100

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https://media.giphy.com/media/fXnRObM8Q0RkOmR5nf/giphy.webp

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Aren't most of these not even trans?

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None of them are β€œtrans”. There's no such thing in reality.

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yes

Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=41; includeAGPs; transition

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How's does knowing that make someone a pre-PCIe graphics connector?

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HSTS are homosexual transsexuals or basically what are considered to be men that transition into women but exclusively date men. Usually this is the group that transphobes will concede probably actually are women more or less in contrast to AGPs, which are the group categorized as fetishists with traditional male interests and a porn addiction and are β€œlesbian”.

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yep

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WTF

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Not gonna lie, I thought the skinwalking accusations were already petty solid. Still never watching a video from either of them.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17092367509484937.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17093267613293715.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1711210096745272.webp

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Contra has fallen off and now only makes 1 video like very 2 years lol. Older videos from like late 2010s are good. Her videos on incels, AGP, and some other stuff like that are good. The last one was on Harry Potter and started out interesting but got dragged tf out. She doesn't do any type of storyboard anymore it seems where there are characters illustrating the issue.


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Contra is handicapped by her audience being some of the most neurotic and cancel ready user base in existence so she has to tip toe the line so much. I think she's one of those people that probably thinks modern zoomer queer culture is r-slurred but knows who pays her bills at the end of the day.

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I know some people disagree, but I think she got a wee bit more chuddy after the enbies cancelled her for the post saying that asking for pronouns is not necessary when she obviously presents as a woman (or something of that nature). Still not a chud, but it moved her right a bit.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp

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Exactamundo. Newer stuff is uninteresting and annoyingly long with her just talking straight into the camera. I even think a lot of the old videos with her as a man/crossdresser were pretty good, but she memoryholed them all :marseysulk:

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She just put a new one out "about Twilight". I found it interesting. Not golden age stuff, but interesting takes.

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oh shit I said Harry Potter and it was Twilight. Whoops. Yeah, I watched it. First part was interesting but she lost me after the first hour.


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Did watch it all at once?

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No, I couldn't do it after an hour. I had to piecemeal it.


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They're all shit and you're a brainlet for needing to watch this shit instead of just reading literature.

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Who said "needs to watch it." It's entertainment, you ragefacing loser. Go play in traffic.


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https://media.giphy.com/media/lw75Al819OAvcsPcRu/giphy.webp

>watching :!marseytrain:s for fun

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>she

/e/surejan.webp
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obsess over wearing womens skin so much I make my whole life revolve around pretending to be a woman

guy I'm dating :marseyitsrigged: obsesses over wearing my skin and revolves his entire life around it

wtf

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:#marseyhesright:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114614085636675.webp :marseyglow2:

I see three letter agencies are not sparing money when it comes to having people flock to their distraction operations.

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:marseygossipshock: Waait so the 4chan and Kiwifarms schizos were actually spitting? When I saw Nykysnotttans or whatever his name is spread it on KF I assumed it's BS.

However the most surprising part of the post is Sargon refering to Contrapoints as she, did his old chud heart mellow out or did he just forget to renew his misgendering licence and doesn't want to risk a visit from bobbies? :marseybongcop:

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she's a lefty content creator

I thought the left moved and contrapoints was a rightoid now? Wasn't he cancelled for something?

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She had to make a whole video denouncing wizard mommy because she appeared on the Witch trial of JK Rowling, also has flown close to invalidating other :marseytrain2:s. She tweets remarks which ruffle zoomer :marseytrain2: feathers often which has marked her as a problematic fav in the trans sphere.

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You either die 🎲 a hero or become the next denouncement target 🎯 of the woke purity spiral 🐚

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Don't forget she became rightoid when she said asking for pronouns is dumb when it's obvious a train is a trainsitioned train, which upset the enbies.


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Enbies are based, their identity is built on the desire to start drama and β€œuhm actually I'm X” to people who have already given in to their last demands

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Also something about not treating enbys as True and Valid.

PhilosophyTube guy on the other hand was paid by, I think the UK government? Some political group anyway as a relevant 'influencer' to peddle a political position. He behaves like a narcissistic sociopath, so the skinwalking is the least surprising thing.

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This is the oft cited tweet

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17114729632839994.webp

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My God, how could anyone even think of saying something so abhorrent???

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>Of all sad words of tongue and pen

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https://c.tenor.com/5Wt_oov5eJYAAAAC/tenor.gif

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PT always made my skin crawl, even as a man. He really has serial killer vibes.

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This is like drama Christmas :marseynukegoggles:

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>buncha literally who YouTube :!marseytrain:s

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https://media.giphy.com/media/U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK/giphy.webp

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rdrama's #1 ContraPoints stan :taylove::taylove::taylove: https://youtube.com/@ContraPoints?sub_confirmation=1

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The pettier the drama, the more funny

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This doesn't really change that, but one of them is going to be in the new Star Wars show, so his potential cancellation might have fun ramifications.

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I can't imagine knowing or caring about any of this.

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The snarky answer would be to tell you "what are you doing on this place, then :marseysmughips: " but it's good for you that you don't know lol

I lurked lgbt forums for a while where this conspiracy theory was discussed, it's been a source of drama over the years

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Goddarn lol


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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So when's the transition going to start my chaser friend.

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I'm very gender euphoric about being a man :marseywholesome:


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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:marseybeefcake:

https://media.giphy.com/media/Pflb8PkqfCTFS/giphy.webp

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!cuteandvalid

me and who


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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Wow. Neat. I didn't read.


:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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/e/marseykingcrown.webp
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PhilosophyTube is a demon

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This was posted about yesterday but at least you explained it for people who don't know the story (I already knew it)

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I can't imagine knowing or caring about any of this.

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I watched one video :marseylegion: with that Philosophytube guy before :marseyskellington: he :marseytrain2:ed out where :marseydrama: he, compltely unecessarily, re-worded Caesar's speech :marseyeff: in defence of Sulla's suporters (Caesar was put on Sulla's death-list so defending his followers after his death :marseyhillarybackstab: was seen as pretty :marseyglam: magnanimous). Anyway, this breadtuber was the fricking :marseytom: epitome of creepy :marseydisconcerting: self-obession and deffo a male feminist :marseyradfem: of the worst kind.

I'm jealous :marseyjelly: as heck he got to frick Natalie tho, even if she put up a bit of a struggle.

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thats how he likes it

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Im so glad i dont know what any of this is :marseywholesome:

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Yesss :marseytrain: civil war :marseyfsjal:

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Is she cancelled right now? Trains seem to go back and forth on that. Her problem is that she isn't absolutely revolting to look at and isn't completely and utterly wingcucked (intolerable).

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She gets cancelled for like a week at a time on Twitter and then releases her annual video and they don't care anymore.

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Can wait to see the video contrapoints is gonna make about this in one and a half years

lmao so true but forgot the part about it being 3 hours long.


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Ohhh, I remember this one. Yeah, it's true. What did people expect?

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Wait…I thought she was always a biofoid?

Idk @IrishShippingCompany don't watch breadtube so how could I've known lol

Trump for prison

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:marseynorm:

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man imagine being that guy haha

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I just read through most of it on break and I think the copying part seems sorta legit but I am not really seeing the assault connection that can probably be explained by them having a bad falling out, am I not noooticing hard enough here?

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Contra said she could "absolutely #MeToo" a prominent figure in leftie online politics. People don't think she would use that word if it was anything less than sexual assault, not just some bad falling out.

Obviously there is no direct indication that this figure is toob, they two of them could very well have dated and this abuser is a completely unrelated third person, but the shoe fits. But yes, at the end of the day this part is schizo ramblings conjecture.

@sincewhendoyouneedaccount love sucking peepee but only contra's metaphorical one.

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yt peepo :marseyfedoratip: are INSAANE

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Thorn is a hack anyway and deserves to be put in a hole. Free Contra!

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