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Vegans cope about being insufferable :marseycopetyping:

https://old.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/1bt6hy1/please_dont_be_preachy_stop_advocating_for_animals/?sort=controversial

I'm not a pushy vegan. But if I combat the cognitive dissonances thrown at me even just a little bit, I'm accused of being a preachy vegan.

People have absolutely no idea how much I let go. I put my desire to have good relations with people over being an animal advocate. And still, I've had people tell me they feel turned off by my intensity on veganism.

It's getting to the point where I might just not eat in groups anymore. And might not even try becoming close friends with non-vegans outside the ones I already have built relationships with.

I know beating people in arguments doesn't win them over. They are set in their ways. But letting them get away with their flawed arguments is equally bad. It makes them falsely believe they actually have winning arguments.

The whole thing is lose/lose.


It's not like most of us preach either. People think we are like street preachers, shouting about hellfire and sin on a street corner, instead we are often calm and perfectly rational. It only comes across as preachy because the ethics and morals we speak of make them aware of their own (or lack of them).

Yep. They want us to laugh at the jokes. They want us to pat them on the back and say, it's ok. We support you. And when we don't, they feel judged and attacked.

It's not about our desire to judge or attack. It's about us speaking up for the voiceless. Now that I'm consciously realizing this, I'm going to start throwing a little outrage when people tell me to be quiet. I don't appreciate being told to tone down something I care about.

step aside g*mers :marseysociety2:, the actual most oppressed minority has entered the conversation :#marseysalad:


in my circle its the meaters who are preaching me

i highly doubt they started it :#marseyattentionseeker:


“You can eat what you want but don't try to convince me. Actually don't even tell me about it. No wait, don't even be vegan around me. Watching you eat plants is making me insecure about my own life choices and since mine is more prominent and widely accepted, you're the one who has to make the changes to make ME more comfortable.”

I'm fortunate to have had people mostly supportive of my being vegan. But they also virtue signal that they are all about letting people make whatever choices they want. I often detect an implication that I'm not as tolerant as they are because I don't condone animal consumption. Again, they have no idea how much I let go. I can easily call them out on the implication they're making that I'm intolerant, as I've never been given a sound reason not to advocate for animal rights.

>i'm vegan

>ok, do whatever you want

>:#soyjaktantrum:


This is why I gave up being a Pick Me, "non-preachy" vegan and embraced the preachiness. You'll be accused of preaching either way, might as well be able to express yourself. (Obviously I pick my moments and am not pushing veganism 24/7)

>Obviously I pick my moments and am not pushing veganism 24/7

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Less than a week ago, I lost a friendship with a non-vegan because of my veganism. Well, more specifically, I mentioned that I look down upon animal abusers and that consuming animal products is animal abuse. Obviously, that didn't go over well. He even said that he's going to eat more meat in spite of me. Makes me wish I never said that.

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He sounds like an butthole. Anyone who uses the "now I am going to do it even more" seems like a shitty person.

>He sounds like an butthole.

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0 self awareness


Whether they intend to change or not, by going through the motions of carrying on dialogue you can systematically delete all of their excuses one by one so they can't reiterate them to the next person. Thank you for advocating for the animals, it may not always feel as if it had an impact, but it does so thank you keep up the good work.

eating meats is normal and doesn't require any "excuse". i just like to eat meats

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Yea that logic can kinda be applied to anything. Like slavery/r*pe/torture. So am I supposed to take you serious here?

You're literally lurking in a vegan thread and saying the equivalent of Mmm bacon here. I don't think it's as edgy as you believe it is in your head. It's more of a reflection of your own personal shortcomings.

MEAT IS MURDER CHUD :#marseygrilling2genocide:


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"I'm not a preachy vegan, I just tell people that they're worse than Hitler if they eat meat"

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"Why do my friends keep calling me preachy!"

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They need to realize most people don't give a flying frick about other people's pet (:marseyderp:) interests.

If they had some autist get uppity and :marseypop2: at them about trains or some shit every time they were trying to commute to work, they'd be annoyed, too

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That's just reddit anytime cars are mentioned :marseysteer:

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public transit is genocide for booze cruisers

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Hey guys just wanted to let you know I'm a vegan :marseyleaf:

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STOP JUDGING ME YOU PREACHY B-WORD


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Even Big H himself was a vegetarian. He also enjoyed The Cure, Depeeche Mode, and The Smiths.

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vegans are the only people who come close to the insufferable-ness of the average terminally online social media liberal

humans weren't meant to be vegan. i don't care how healthy you think you are, humans are supposed to eat meat. it's partially how we stopped being tree dwelling apes and became upright thinking humans. :hmph:

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The only vegans I tolerate are the Jeet Vegans because they don't make it their whole personality.

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They're also the only ones this far who have successfully turned plantslop into something mostly edible

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They are vegetarian, because they still eat animal byproducts, like cow shit.

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They eat cheese & milk, you DEI. Not the cow patties.

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Not according to some tik tok videos :marseyeyemixer2:

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They're also jeets which are intolerable to begin with


Give me your money and I'll annoy people with it :space: https://i.rdrama.net/images/16965516366194396.webp

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1 cow is 10000 liters of water and 10000000tons of plant matter.

All that plant matter could've been made into tasteless vegan slop.

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tasteless vegan slop

At least it's not bugs :marseybottom:

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Shrimp and crab taste amazing

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:#chadyes:

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or a forest :marseymushroom: :marseytree:

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We need arable forest land to farm low nutritional plans like lettuce and kale

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we need forest land for wildlife not to go extinct

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They should learn to code

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Bleh

We can't eat wildlife

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We have to eat meat, because, uh, um, uh, well we just have to okay!

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We dont have to. I just wanna, because its tasty and metal :marseylickinglips: :marseywindmill:

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Tasty

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If you don't think meat tastes good, it's because you've been eating tasteless soy slop for too long

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Ohh, does the little baby do his nummy dance when he eats his heckin fooderino? Does it taste like epic awesomesauce? Mmm, so tasty, such goodness.

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Seethe

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That's great man. You got any other reddit slang to use on me?

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Dilate

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You're arguing that using "tasty" to describe food is a redditism?

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  • Sphereserf3232 : There are some rituals where you eat humans? :marseysmug: also Eucharist

Saying humans are "supposed to" do anything is teleological nonsense. We don't eat meat to fulfill some astral purpose.

At least argue that eating meat is healthier or simply enjoyable. I don't even know any religions that say humans are supposed to eat meat outside of some rituals like a Passover seder.

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Would you honestly describe the statement "humans are supposed to drink water" as teleological nonsense

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Yes, because they could also drink juice. Checkmate

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Yes. Humans need to drink water and will otherwise die. There's no "supposed to" in the sense of satisfying the intent of some creator or whatever other entity would create a list of things were "supposed to" do. You're not being naughty if you don't drink water, even if you harm yourself because of it.

We're not put on this earth for the purpose of drinking water, which is what "supposed to" would mean in a teleological context.

You could argue that humans need to eat meat, but you'd be obviously wrong. So, people generally don't argue that. But, saying humans are "supposed to" eat meat is appealing to some undefined mystical thing humans are supposed to do, which is teleological bullshit.

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yes

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teleological

fake word stopped reading

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We are supposed to eat meat because we are capable of eating meat. Simple as, r-slur.

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People have absolutely no idea how much I let go.

People should be thanking this vegan for only occasionally ruining dinner or social events over total nonsense! These people are such insufferable buttholes 😂😂😂.

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I don't understand why they always ask the gotcha “would you eat a cat or a dog”… of course I fricking would :marseyvore2:

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Dogs and cats are fricking useful, that's why we don't eat them and ended up having this relationship with them. Why would you eat the animal you can train to guard your home or other domesticated animals from predators, or can even be trained to help you hunt? Why would you eat the animal that eats the vermin that ruin your food stores and spread diseases?

Even beef was pretty rare to eat for a long time because cows and oxen were more useful alive, which was up until relatively recently.

Pigs and wild hog are pieces of shit, chickens and turkeys are r-slurred, and fish are useless except for food. This is why we eat these animals.

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I dont eat dog because he's a silly ickle mister fuzzypants we are not the same


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So you dont even train your dog to be useful? So all you do is just serve your dog?

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Dog provides emotional support. Human provides food and picks up shit


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Sounds like your wasting your dog's potential. He wants to please you, you should please him by giving him more tasks he's capable of doing.

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If you need a dog to guard your home or help you hunt, then I'd consider you low enough in the food chain to eat as well :marseyhannibal:

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Says the guy right before getting mauled by the other tribes dogs

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:#marseychingchongtalking:

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I mean, I wouldn't eat my own dog but if someone offered me a bite of dog out there I'd try it

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Right, like yeah I'd eat dog if it were delicious, nutritionally economic, and easily available??? I wouldn't eat my own hypothetical pet dog but I probably also wouldn't be able to eat my own pet pig because I have a stupid anthropomorphising human brain

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I would eat dog because I've heard it is quite good. Cat, no, because it is supposedly garbage meat.

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how much I let go

You missed the point entirely.

This was referring to their poor gastrointestinal health.

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Hey, it's okay you're anti-r*pe, I'm tolerant of people walking their own paths in life.

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  • Sphereserf3232 : Why are you using !nonchuds? Doesn't make sense and you're a chud

!nonchuds this is what privilege makes these dweebs sound like

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I'm not ok with that, if you're not also pro-r*pe I can't be friends with you :marseyindignantturn:


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I like vegans and think they should be preachy. Factory farms are basically Auschwitz. I don't care enough to stop eating McGriddles, but I'm glad someone does.

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Factory farms are a testament to humans ability to conquer and tame the wilds and are a step in the direction of moral good

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This but unironically

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Factory farms are basically Auschwitz

>Agriculture is now a motorized food industry, the same thing in its essence as the production of corpses in the gas chambers and the extermination camps, the same thing as the blockades and the reduction of countries to famine, the same thing as the manufacture of hydrogen bombs.

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It's a testament to how annoying vegans are that they're right about most of what they talk about, and they can use cute fluffy cows frolicking around videos to make us feel bad, and yet everyone still hates them lol

I 100% admit that I'm selfish and causing unnecessary suffering by eating cheap Walmart meat but vegans are so unpalatable that most people won't even let them win on that point :marseyxd:

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Factory farms are basically Auschwitz.

Well, Hitler was vegetarian after all...

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OH BOY MEATORINO? THIS IS JUST LIKE MY FAVORITE RESTRAUNT!

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This but unironically

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>Factory farms are basically Auschwitz

Yes and that's a good thing

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plants are living things. They attempt to avoid things that are harmful to them and seek out things that are good for them. This is no different than an animal experiencing pain or pleasure. The difference between plants and animals is that plants have no means to defend themselves or run away. They are completely defenseless creatures. So being a vegan is morally equivalent to murdering an infant

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Some trees actually provide nutrients to saplings via root entanglement, and some vines show affinity for kin by choking out same-species seedlings while leaving genetic relatives.

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:mar#seygroomergrooming: but with trees :marseyunless:


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So why am I not sexually attracted to plants

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Ur gay

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This is no different than an animal experiencing pain or pleasure.

Except the complete lack of a brain ofc

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Vegans are based af, imagine standing up to one of the most basic human urges and saying it's evil and r-slurred. Absolute queens and i have the utmost respect for them (but also not going to stop eating meat lol)


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:#marseyjerkofffrown:

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rdrama's biggest meat handler opposes veganism news at 11


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I don't necessarily oppose veganism. I oppose the certain brand of moralcute twinkry and brain worms that lead to becoming a vegan.

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Even doe opposing moralcute twinkry is itself a form of moralstragging


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>earth shattering revelation

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There's types of moralcute twinkry. E.g You can't even argue with a religious BIPOC's moralcute twinkry because "Allah said so" trumps everything conceivable.

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(but also not going to stop eating meat lol)

Transvetites not being morally hypocritical challenge (impossible)

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I never said i agreed with the vegans chuddy. Also you spelled transvestite wrong (and misapplied it to a proud transsexual sister like myself)


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I'm gonna play devil's advocate and akshuallee :marseyakshually: say that there is a kernel of truth to what they are saying:

Story time! :marseyreading:

My ex was vegan, but she was totally chill :marseycool2: Yes, the idea of consuming meat grossed her out, but when we ate out, and I got my (for example) Pho normal with meat, it was never even a discussion.

But when I would tell friends/family about her being vegan, they would immediately start trashing vegans, even though they didn't even know her yet :marseyglancing:

I imagine this is how the "normal" non-social contagion/AGP :marseytrain:s feel, like a group within their niche is just being so loud and obnoxious that it's giving everyone a bad name on a societal scale.

It's kinda messed up because vegans have a bulletproof moral argument (at least the central "don't kill these smart things" argument), it's just that a reverse-seared steak tastes too good :marseylickinglips:

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I was nodding along until you implied that cows are smart.

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They are basically giant dogs that have been selectively bred to be yummy af :marseyshrug:

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