EFFORTPOST When whites weren't genocided - The Truth and Reconciliation Commission :marseyflagsouthafrica:

I've been put on lithium for Bipolar Disorder. Apparently it's potentially toxic so I have to take blood samples frequently. My psychiatrist wants me to be hospitalized again but I refused because I don't want to and I don't think I need to. I just admitted I have suicidal ideation but no plans. So long as I don't go manic, I'll still be able to refuse. I'm getting good sleep lately so I don't think a manic episode is coming anytime soon. Shit only gets bad when I only get an hour of sleep and feel fine afterwards. Let's talk a bit about South African history.

Following the end of apartheid in 1994, there were fears that revenge was going to be the norm. Several pieces of writing can be found on this "Swaart gevaar" or "black danger" that would come with democracy. Some whites fled, but many decided to stay and embrace the multicultural society. To help heal the wounds of apartheid, a Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was held. The aim was to air out all the crimes of humanity that occurred. Those who gave honest testimony would be given amnesty while those who were deemed to be politically motivated would face justice. It was also a platform for victims to tell their stories.

Instead of retributive justice, the country turned to restorative justice, which is an approach to justice that personalizes the crime by having the victims and the offenders mediate a restitutive agreement to the satisfaction of each. Victims take an active role in the process. Meanwhile, offenders take meaningful responsibility for their actions, taking the opportunity to right their wrongs and redeem themselves, in their own eyes and in the eyes of the community. This approach is based on a theory of justice that considers crime and wrongdoing to be an offense against an individual or community, rather than the State.

Do you agree with restorative justice, or do you think retribution is superior? Mull over this as we delve into the intricacies of the TRC.

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Reasons for the TRC

It shouldn't need to be stated, but several atrocities occurred during apartheid. This is without considering the several freedom fighters who went "missing". Some of the most tragic incidents are:

  • In 1960, the Sharpeville Massacre occurred, an event that garnered international attention and outrage. When protestors convened outside a police station to protest pass laws, police opened fire and killed 69 people

  • Another notable protest occurred on the 16th of June 1976 when students in Soweto marched to Orlando West Junior Secondary School. Teargas and bullets were released, resulting in fatalities of children. Most famously, Hector Peterson was one of the victims.

Subsequent waves of protests meant that by the end of the year, the government issued an official (although likely underestimated) casualty figure of 575 dead. This was the heyday of apartheid, but it led to complete condemnation from the international community and sanctions were put in place. Eventually, when F.W. de Klerk came into power, apartheid laws were slowly repealed. In 1994, the first democratic election was held and the ANC was voted into power, allowing Nelson Mandela to become president just four years after serving a 27-year prison sentence.

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South Africa experiences hope

Americans will be familiar with the metaphor of the melting pot. In South Africa, we have the rainbow nation. When democracy was won, a wave of optimism swept the nation. Along with this came the idea of the prosperous, racially integrated ‘rainbow nation'. The idea became so popular that the rainbow became a shorthand for a nation seeking reconciliation and unity after decades of racial and political tensions.

The TRC consisted of three committees: Human Rights Violations, Amnesty, and Reparation and Rehabilitation. For the first time, the TRC process allowed for the voicing of injustices rendered audible in the public domain, and harrowingly revealed the pain, grief, and trauma that had previously been borne in silence and anonymity by victims and their families. The TRC was also aimed at a restoration of humanity, and comprised a drama of national proportions.

Significantly, however, four kinds of narrative truth were recognised by the TRC:

  • factual – objective, empirical, impartial, legal, forensic

  • social or dialogue – the kinds established by social interaction, discussion and debate

  • subjective – personal memories and experiences

  • reconciliatory – stories about healing that were future-oriented.

The first TRC hearing was held on 15 April 1996 in East London. When Fort Calata's widow, Nomonde, let out a piercing wail on remembering her husband's murder, the entire East London hall, led by Bishop Desmond Tutu, stood up and began singing Senzenima – what have we done? – a chorus to her agony, those present taking on her trauma collectively. (Many who testified to apartheid atrocities were having to ‘speak the unspeakable', and were reduced to conveying their pain in a realm outside of language.) Fort Calata was one of the Cradock Four, a group which included Matthew Goniwe, Sparrow Mkonto and Sicelo Mhlawuli, who were murdered by security operatives in the Eastern Cape in June 1985.

Over 50 public hearings were held over 1888 days, more than 20000 reports/statements on 38000 incidents involving 14000 deaths were taken from victims/survivors (although only about 2000 were heard in the public hearings themselves, i.e. 10%), and 7116 applications were made for amnesty (of which 1167 were granted, i.e.16%). Amnesty could only be applied for in respect of acts committed with the complicity, if not proven approval, of apartheid leaders (e.g. the military, government and security forces) in pursuit of alleged enemies of the state. The Amnesty Committee concluded its work on amnesty applications by perpetrators in May 2001 (3 years after the five-volume TRC report was released in October 1988), but work continues to prosecute those not granted amnesty. Some ex-members of the Security Police and Bureau of Civil Cooperation have been serving prison sentences for murder, illegal arms possession and fraud e.g. Eugene de Kock, the Vlakplaas Commander (known as “Prime Evil” in the media), Dirk Coetzee and Craig Williamson.

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Post TRC - Was forgiveness worth it?

Jacob Dlamini's text Native Nostalgia which discusses the possibility of the existence of a nostalgia for a pre-democracy past. In the introduction, Dlamini provides statements from South Africans who reveal a dissatisfaction with post-1994 society and a longing for the past. anxieties surrounding life in the new South Africa have resulted in some portions of the population believing that their survival was more secure during apartheid. Thus, while the arrival of democracy may have brought some hope to South Africa, views of the country's socio-political state after 1994 have led to scepticism regarding the possibility for post-Apartheid prosperity.

These views are exemplified in the case of South African Brandon Huntley who applied for refugee status in Canada, claiming that the government failed to protect him from racially motivated attacks. His lawyer, South African Russell Kaplan, claims that one of Huntley's intentions was to inform the world “what a sickly place South Africa is”.

The biggest setback is the lack of change that followed the TRC. The thing about rainbows is that the colors are separate, which is the case in South Africa. Arial photos taken by Johnny Miller reveal that economic divisions created by Apartheid still stratify the Western Cape. Using a drone, he captures how the segregation is not created by any natural phenomena but instead is caused by the manmade divisions of Apartheid. The photo below is of Lwandle/Nomzamo, a township that was designated for black people by the Group Areas Act of 1950. It was originally built as a low-cost place for workers to live.

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According to a 2011 census, Nomzamo still has a black population of over 90%, revealing that demographics have not changed since 1994 and society is still segregated racially. These racial segregations trace economic lines.

Another photograph taken by Miller features Manenberg. This township was created in 1966 for coloured people after District Six and other areas were declared whites-only regions.

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Like Nomzamo, Manenberg mostly retains its pre-democracy demographics thus over 80% of its residents are coloured. Furthermore, housing continues to be a problem and the widespread poverty breeds crimes and gangs.

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Questions to ask yourself

  • Was the TRC a good idea?

  • Was justice served?

  • Would South Africa be better off with a tribunal?

  • Would South Africa be better off with white genocide following the end of apartheid?

  • Did the TRC do anything good or was it just a show to brush away a bloody past?

To end off, I'd like to post an interview with a jail warden who once jailed political prisoners but now works as a tour guide at Robben Island where Nelson Mandela was held. Do you think he received justice? Hmmmmm...

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I lived in this town 10 years ago for a few months. The suburb known as Riebeeckstad in the north was the opulent and upper middle class, and the lower south suburbs are thown as Thabong, the poor township in which black and coloured peeps were regulated to stay up until 1993 pre-democratization, while wealthy miner whites stayed in the nice part of the city, furthest away from the industry complex and central city noise

Thanbong has improved in the 10 years since, but is still an inferior crime ridden place to live, and a beacon of poverty, while the upper middle classes live a better life in Riebeeckstad.

Pictures like this and

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and what sneedman posted and white foreign liberals posted will always be shown as a disclaimed than racial income inquality is the primary source of problems in RSA, 30 years on post-apartheid, and that the discrepency between white and black peeps can physically be witnessed in satellite photos like these by eyesight alone


Yet fools like @sneedman and liberals continue to not realize their continual harboring of income inequality between white and black as the soul source of dysfunction between the country, like whites are still the evil all-powerful cabal who hoards wealth while their literal black neighbours starve less than a kilometer away.

Let me tell you a secret @sneedman, why the ANC and our societal dysfunction will never improve, because of your black cowardice. And I'm calling you a coward - because you are an intelligent person, and could so clearly see the cruelty and evils of apartheid and the white race, yet you fail and abstain from criticising the wrongdoings and corruption of your fellow black peeps in power, in our municipalities responisble for this Town Planning disasters even after 3 fricking decades. It's easy to criticize the enemy, It's much harder to stand up against your friend, you family and even your own race - i know this because I have failed myself

You see here is the secret: remember the suburb of Riebeeckstad?

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What do you think the population racial spread is currently? 100% white? No, as if the SPLUMA and SDF (Spatial Development Framework) of the Moqhaka and Matjabeng municipalities of Welkom (the city these suburbs are part of), the racial makeup of everyone in Riebeeckstad is currently 40% white......and 60% black.

Of every previous sector where only whites lived, like in the township of Odendaalsrus (west of Riebeeckstad), which used to be a whites only town, the residential makeup is even more parted to 65% black, and only 35% white.

It is true that whites life better economic lives on massive average in RSA, which is also demarcated even with satellite photos the disparity between wealthy township and richer suburbs, usually the pre-democratic RSA with whites only. Yet all of these previous white only suburbs, the entire Free State province only had massive populations shifts, where the average in Moqhaka and Matjabeng municipal racial makeups transformed the averages from 50-60% black peeps today currently.

Meaning there is also a vast black population which lives as upper middle class lifestyle, punctuated with a literal physical shift away from their poor brethren, as whites slowly move to Pretoria/Cape town or just die out naturally, the entire Free State province over.

And in this economic disparity, usually between corrupt municipal officials skimming taxes to fund their homes in the nice parts of town, the focus remains near exclusively upon the economic welfare disparity between whites/blacks, while government officials steal the very ground beneath people's feet

I know what I'm talking about, I may not be a Town PLanner, but I'm a Land Surveyor which works with town planners daily, and have to submit proposals and requests to the municipalities for Rezoning land, or requesting selling between owners. I have seen these statistics of the Spatial Development Frameworks, and worked amongst all of the people inhabiting the suburbs all over the central free state, the past 10 years - I speak the truth in this.

Today alone I saw corruptly built RDP homes Do you guys know what I saw? I went inside and my employer literally ripped the taps out of the wall. He ripped the light switches out of the walls. There were no water pipes or electrical lines. The walls were solid, meaning no lines or water pipes were inside the wall, it was sloid concrete. The people having waited for a 5 year line, and thanking Go that they have finally acquired an RDP home, will find to their horror and dismay, no working baths or showers, no working lights, because the walls were solid, there was no water or electrical infrastructure built, the end result was a mock up to disguise the corruption of the developers.

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Im in a bad mood today, so n this picture irks me

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this is not just a moronic one-syllable sentence which demonstrates that economic disparity between whites and blacks have remained constant for the past 30 years, all because whites have hoarded gold all this time , while their impoverished black countrymen languishes in horrific and dehumanizing sublives .

But black peeps hold ultimate power now, in all levels and sectors of the government, in Free State and Gaunteng, the white's power is gone forever, we cannot change the course of this nation, only black people can. Our voice is a piss in the wind, only black peeps can decide the future course of the nation, and one-sentence pictures like these, failing to indicate that black peeps who crawl their way out of the bucket of craps and out of poverty, either out of entrepreneurial ingenuity or municipal corruption, are JUST as fricking complicit in the economic disparity between wealthier suburbs and impoverished townships.

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Today alone I saw corruptly built RDP homes Do you guys know what I saw? I went inside and my employer literally ripped the taps out of the wall. He ripped the light switches out of the walls. There were no water pipes or electrical lines. The walls were solid, meaning no lines or water pipes were inside the wall, it was sloid concrete. The people having waited for a 5 year line, and thanking Go that they have finally acquired an RDP home, will find to their horror and dismay, no working baths or showers, no working lights, because the walls were solid, there was no water or electrical infrastructure built, the end result was a mock up to disguise the corruption of the developers.

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I don't doubt you but I am a bit confused. Were the houses built with this stuff and it was ripped out? Or were they built from the ground up as simple concrete molds with no utilities?

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Solid concrete with no utilities ever

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Is there any real reason? Are the buyers just completely being scammed? I don't understand but South Africa makes other third world places seem functional sometimes

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You are a builder with a building corp.

To rectify evil racism, you are paid extra for every house you build.

You build several houses.

Then, you build some fake houses to get more gov moeny.

The houses will be sold years later after you got your bag.

And once the gov finds out? Well it wasnt your company, it was your second cousin's twice removed subcontarctor firm that did those houses, of course.

Racism is now solved forever in the rainbow nation!

:marseyletsgo: :!marseyitsallsotiresome:

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It's public housing. They apply for it. ANC officials in charge of it just redirected funds to themselves and left out the shit. and none of the workers cared as long as they got paid. Pretty simple.

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Seems like inefficient corruption to install it, then take it out after it's got paint and shit on it

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!metashit saffer infighting :marseypopcorntime:

I hope you'll have a better day tomorrow, kaami.

Get some rest. :marseybow:

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@kaamrev is very obviously right. The (((@sneedman))) being an r-slured commie (racist) idealist that falls for the politicians game seems about right.

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Sneedman is completely mentally ill which as we all know is a commie trait

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!effortposters @kaamrev has made another banger comment about South Africa.

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>Yet fools like @sneedman and liberals continue to not realize their continual harboring of income inequality between white and black as the soul source of dysfunction between the country, like whites are still the evil all-powerful cabal who hoards wealth while their literal black neighbours starve less than a kilometer away.

https://www.amren.com/news/2011/10/black_racial_co/

Blacks, especially smart blacks, have a tremendous amount of pressure to think and act in racial terms, their communities and culture reinforces racial particularism pretty heavily. Being an "Uncle Tom" is one of the worst sins a black politician can commit, the black community prefers someone taking bribes or smoking crack in office to a sell out. It's not just US blacks that are like this, they seem to have a natural solidarity wherever they go.

But yeah, comparing differences between white and black neighborhoods and sneeding about it is clear cut envious behavior. Envy drives all of leftoid politics, they don't so much want to aspire to uplift everyone, but to tear down the object of their envy. That's why black communities in the US are pretty happy to have high crime rates and elect corrupt politicians, it stops hipsters coming in and gentrifying shit. It's why blacks are content with the ANC taking bribes and acting like feudal lords, it's because the white racial elite from before, while functioning better, stoked that feeling of racial envy.

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>black incompetence

>YTs fault

:marsey#emojirofl:

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>El Cubano del bix nood

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Cuban

Major Racial

White (64.12%) (2012)

Minor Racial

Mestizo (26.6%), Black (9.6%) (2012)

Oh no but I was told all the white plantation owner goosanous fled the totally wholesome revolution for Florida in order to vote for BLORMPH! And all Cubans are actually Black and love Gommunism and were right to kill whitey

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Young Che Guevara commentary on bipocs will always be perfect bait. I know he later was a major advocate for black Cubans, who were still treated like shit after the revolution, but it's too easy to spam at gusano posters.

The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese.

!macacos

:poortuguesecope: :chadbrasileiro:

Brazil is the rightful inheritor of the Portuguese Empire, not modern Poortugal. New Worldcels rise up

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That solidarity is a mirage. Sure they'll vote for the “blacks first” candidate everytime, but once they have any power at all they will use it to dominate and coerce and punish their fellow blacks over and over. It's like in game theory, they only know how to defect.

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That's great and all, but I asked for my burger without cheese.

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Where I live black ppl pour milk on eachother for being oreos, not gasoline :marseyworried:

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Kaamrev serious question; at least @sneedman has the excuse of ingesting battery parts (lithium) for his sneeding nonsense, what's your excuse for all these words words and more words?

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I don't understand all of the sneeding, bit yes. i agree :marseyjeremiah: that income disparity is largely a matter :marseypinkname: of corruption


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I was hoping for exponential word growth.

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me too :marseyitsover:

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We were robbed of our rdrama championship :marseylongpost2: cage fight :marseydoomer:

Make them fight for their Pharaoh :marseyinshallah:

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Im in a bad mood today,

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Don't worry, bubby. You're completely right. @sneedman is an r-slur that ignores the unintended outcomes of his silly political beliefs.

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Based suburbs, keep the poors out

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Im in a bad mood today, so n this picture irks me

Why? The cleaning ladies must come from some place near

Let me tell you a secret @sneedman, why the ANC and our societal dysfunction will never improve, because of your black cowardice

:#marseypopcorntime: :#marseypopcorn:

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You're laughing at him because the public housing built by ANC doesn't even have any lights or water? :marseyconfused: You're not helping the stereotype of delusional communists, baby.

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Didn't read the :marseylongpost: just saw a yt seething :marseyoverseether:


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You must have looked in the mirror by accident.

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Did you miss the wall of sneed :marseyshadow: by a yt under :marseyhole: the post that does nothing but recap history?

White South :marseysouthernerpearlclutch: Africans are lucky :marseygolden2: they still get to live there :marseycheerup: :marseybeheading:


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Maybe it was the reflection of your phone screen?

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KILL YT

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