I like you Dream so I'm going to be respectful here but destroying public property is not peaceful protest. This is what caused the failure of BLM. Most normal people are turned off by bad behavior. A better strategy would have been sit-ins on the outside property itself butโฆ
— The Homocracy (@ReasonPete) May 4, 2024
I'm going to post this here so if anybody wants to pile on.
I gave up after about an hour trying to explain that destroying property and acting r-slurred as bad actually.
Feel free to make fun of me for trying. I'm drunk
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Protest simply doesn't work in America. We are the least radical nation in the West. We've never had a significant socialist, monarchist, or fascist movement. The term "American exceptionalism" originally referred to America being the only country without a commie uprising in the 20s.
BLM? Failed. Occupy? Failed. Vietnam War protests? Failed so hard they got Nixon elected twice, but since he ended the war I guess they technically succeeded
The civil rights movement is famously America's only successful protest, due to highly contingent factors:
Disciplined, centralized protest organizations take great pains to make protestors look as sympathetic as possible
JFK cynically plays along to win Black votes
Protest leaders swallow their pride and allow JFK to use them as political tokens
JFK makes a big show of creating a major civil rights act while secretly planning to water it down. Before he can, however, a random schizo blows his head off
His successor LBJ uses JFK's death and years of Senate experience to beat Congress into passing an actual civil rights act
Even then, the movement was failing by 1968
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!nooticers
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I want you to know I gave you the progressive stack award unironically and because you told the complete truth
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Once again, 1968 was the truly the year of the Chud (60s edition). Tricky Peepee was elected, pinko agitator MLK and Nepo baby libtard RFK got whacked (the latter by a Palestoid ), Brazilian unionists and commie students were imprisoned, the Dem convention was a shitshow.
On the year climax (christmas eve) Apollo 8 was orbiting the moon showing America was going to win the lunar race.
!historychads
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there's also the part where it was a geopolitical tactic (explicitly discussed as such around the time of brown v board) since the american racial order was making us look bad to third-world countries and pushing them closer to the soviets.
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spider gang for life
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Americans are just too comfortable. No campus protestor would lay down their life for their beliefs, while this is common in countries with actual revolutions.
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Why was the movement failing by 1968? I haven't heard this opinion before
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The movement peaked in 1965, with the voting right act. After that, public opinion started to diverge, Whites felt that they had given enough, while blacks still dealing with the long term effects of segregation were bitter that there was no instant solution to poverty. Also the original civil rights movement was mostly going after Southern Dejure segreation that was literally written down. But after 1965 they started to go after Northern defacto segregation that alienated whites, as they didn't feel they were racist. The long hot summer of 1967, featured multiple massive riots that had high death counts compared to modern riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long,_hot_summer_of_1967). This even more so damaged the reputation of the civil rights movement in white America's eyes. In 1964, Northern Whites thought of civil rights activist of victims of Southern brutality. In 1968, Northern Whites, thought of civil rights activists as anarchists burning down their city and trying to change their kids schools.
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!chuds what's changed?
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The establishments greatest trick is how protests actually do anything when you aren't already invested in power.
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