I like you Dream so I'm going to be respectful here but destroying public property is not peaceful protest. This is what caused the failure of BLM. Most normal people are turned off by bad behavior. A better strategy would have been sit-ins on the outside property itself butโฆ
— The Homocracy (@ReasonPete) May 4, 2024
I'm going to post this here so if anybody wants to pile on.
I gave up after about an hour trying to explain that destroying property and acting r-slurred as bad actually.
Feel free to make fun of me for trying. I'm drunk
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Welcome to the real world where people will spin even the slightest mistake into your whole movement being violent.
You can cope and seethe all you want, but the reality is that the most successful movements were those that were so peaceful that they literally allowed police and fascists to beat them, sometimes to death.
I'm sorry you thought revolution meant shitposting on the internet, but it actually means throwing your body on the gears of the machine and being willing to sacrifice yourself for a greater cause. You fricking kitty.
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A peacefwl pwotest is abswowlutewy worthless if there's nyo threat of viowalnce. If u genyuinyewy believe in what u're saying then u have a seriouswy guwwible understanding of histwory and aww the pwotest/resistance muvments that twook place and their dynyamics in histworicwl cwontext. Literawwy ewery successfwl peacefwl pwotest that twook place in histwory, and I mean literawwy ewery singwal onye, happenyed awongside the threat of or the existence of viowalnce with it or pwior two it. There's genyuinyewy nyot a singwal instance where this wasn't the case.
It's funny that u think this is swome kind of "own", especiawwy in an instance where u're talking two a swon and gwandswon of literwl revowlutionyary militants. In 1973, my gwandfather was parawyzed fwom his waist dwown because of tworture he endured in a dungeon at the hands of the PIDE (fascist pwowlice in Pwortugal). U dwon't nyeed two teach mwe abwout self-sacwifwice two a gwateer cause, my famiwy alweady did. I'm a card carrying Mwember (almwost 20 years nyow) of the wery same pwowliticwl party my parents and gwandfather were part of. I'm wery pwowliticawwy active and take part in aww mannyer of meetings, pwotests, campaigns, labwor unyions and syndicates nyegwotiations and plannying. I'm nyot the champagnye Swocialist caricature that u've cweated in ywour head.
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I stopped reading here because you're fricking r-slurred. This isn't the 1960s and even if it was even Malcolm X said his approach was bad.
Yeah man, keep being violent and turning the citizenry against you. You're doing a great job. We totally got police reform from BLM and I'm sure you'll get an end to genicide from smashing up colleges, you dumb frick
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Every right we take for granted today wasn't "gifted" to us, it was won. Never forget that. Because if you genuinely believe that the monarchs and aristocrats of old gave the serfs and proles rights simply out of the kindness of their hearts then I have a bridge to sell you. Same dynamic applies to the ruling classes of today. Every right we have was won by active coercion. Every single last one of them.
In this case the students were very much not violent at all, it was the cops and the pro-Israel goons, but sure.
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Mostly through peaceful means. Sorry, tard, but history is mostly boring. It's everyday interactions and ideas built over a very long time that get things "moving." With the rise of towns came merchants and trade. International trade associations complete with private courts and security sprung into existence to compensate for the shit systems of government. Much of common law, which you live and breathe in, was built on the backs of everyday farmers and traders. Centuries of weedling and begging r-slurred demogogues for a crum of private property has become the pillar from which you can buy your dumbphone and b-word and moan about capitalism.
Almost all the violent "revolutions" have been absolute failures because they simply replace the status quo peepeeheads with another set of peepeeheads, e.g. the French Revolution, the Bolshevik uprising, Mao's nonsense, and almost every turd world coup in the ME, Africa, Latin America, and South America.
You Marxist-inspired pieces of shit have been kicking the brakes of civilization since 1848. Y'all keep measuring change in terms of blood and death, while everyone else does it with cash and credit. Socialists truly are the BIPOCs of world history.
!chuds !historychads, another late night rant from Yours Truly.
!anticommunists, it's fricking KNOCK OUT NIGHT ON RDRAMA!!!
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all those words wont bring your dad back
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My dad never left!
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The idea that peaceful protests/revolutions in the past could have achieved results in a vacuum independent of the threat or existence of violence is fricking hysterical and ahistorical. Just the most pea brained understanding of history.
This BIPOC thinks the merchant courts of the 16/17th century are the foundation of our legal systems and rights . R-slur, the proles didn't have any real rights under the feudal system and it wasn't until Napoleon came along and shook things up that Europeans drafted general civil codes.
That you're right about.
You mean centuries of collective action, organized labor, boycotts and political activism. To which there's mountains of literature detailing the progress from the early industrial revolution to today. Progress that shows active coercion by the masses absolutely works and achieves results. We would still have 8 year olds working in factories and have 100 hour work weeks if the people back in 19th century hadn't collectively demanded better working conditions, rights and protections.
The French Revolution took down the feudal system that had been in place for centuries and replaced with an objectively progressive (at the time) alternative. Same deal in Russia with the Bolsheviks which liberated millions of serfs from Tsarism. Same deal in China with Mao who freed the Chinese from European imperialism and elevated hundreds of millions of peasants.
BIPOC, if it weren't for "Marxist-inspired pieces of shit" your goofy butt would still be stuck working in 19th century working conditions and working a 100 hour weeks with no healthcare, no paid overtime or any kind of vacation time, let alone paid vacation etc..
What no historical materialism does to a mf
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You're r-slurred. Why would I read any of that?
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I read it, and you're right
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Thank you, bussysundae. I've had my fair share of debates with socialists during my undergrad days, and they'll conveniently ignore major faults with socialism while throwing out as many red herrings they can about markets, a big bad company (sometimes actually being bad), or if all else fails, "USA/capitalism/profit bad because it is! ."
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You might learn a thing or two from someone who actually knows and understands history instead of holding on to dumb preconceptions and falsehoods. But what do I know, I just hold a double master's in History and Economics lol
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None of these words are in the Bible
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I remember the Gay Marriage Battle of Savannah
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And in the last 50 years they've been won through non-violent means. Normies always respond better to images of completely peaceful martyrs getting beaten for a cause. It's personally and narcissistically a lot more fun to graffiti a building or smash a window though.
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Pway teww, what rights did u exactwy "win" in the past 50 years? Because u can easiwy make the argument that u've wost mwore rights than u "gainyed".
Won't swomebwody think of the campus wawws and windwows
If u think painting gwaffwiti in wawws and bweaking a cwoupwal windwows is being "viowalnt" then u're a b-word-made straggwot and shwould unyiwonyicawwy keep yourself safe.
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Lmao the uwu award makes this perfect. Bro I'm not reading anything you're saying because you r-slurred
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Remember when gays busted out all the stained glass windows of churches until they could finally get married there.
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I personally called Obama and told him that I would order another Stonewall if he didn't get the Supreme Court to give gay marriage.
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The primary force toward a better civilization, especially since the 1600s, which pushed autocrats and aristocrats toward democracy and private property rights was...markets.
Sorry, commie. You lost before it even began.
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!chuds we have socialist royalty here
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I've known more coherent downies.
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