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Trump is GUILTY of all 34 felony counts of falsification of business records.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go dunk on SO MANY people on Twitter. You have no idea.
https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1796287771163672651
Trump is GUILTY of all 34 felony counts of falsification of business records.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go dunk on SO MANY people on Twitter. You have no idea.
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I'm gonna be realโฆ I don't even know what he was in court for.
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I stopped paying attention to almost all discussion of legal accusations against him sometime around 2018 or so after there had been like a whole year of 24/7 legal accusations against him and of "journ*lists" churning out tens of thousands of words every day about how those legal accusations meant Drumpf was unfit to be the president or whatever.
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Yeah, I decided Hillary must be clean in 1995 because so many people said she was a crook.
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She is still the all time undefeated cattle futures trading champion (tied with Bill)
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He tried to expense hush money payments to Stormy Daniels for tax purposes (well Cohen did) and this somehow turned into 34 felonies.
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I thought the issue was he didn't report it as a campaign expense but they are saying it should have been so it technically violated election rules.
Either way, dramatic
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No. The falsifying business records (aka expensing it) are the charges. Because it was done during a campaign made them all a felony.
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If that was the only charge, it would've been a misdemeanor, so the prosecution argued that it was something like election tampering or interference in order to count it as a felony.
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tough on crime cels real quiet today
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If we locked up every politicians, I wouldn't be so asshurt about it. Strange that Trump is the only presidential politician in history to be held accountable for his actions.
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
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It's bc Republicans are weak on crime, they didn't even prosecute Hillary. Vote Biden for tough on crime and anti-corruption![:marseyblowkiss: :marseyblowkiss:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyblowkiss.webp)
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It was stuff that happened before he was president, not during.
IMO if you aren't committing war crimes as president then you're not protecting America enough.
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Look, it's not a war crime if you give them some smokes first
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Freedom requires safety in public spaces. Crimes involving violence against strangers, we should be tough on these.
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They should do medieval trial by combat.
But to make it funny the champion for Trump has to be Alex Jones and he's fighting Jeff Tiedrich
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since he's guilty, does he get to take back the money from Daniels?
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Sounds like he shouldn't have done that, actions have consequences, play stupid games won stupid prizes ๐
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Sounds like someone fricked around and found out![:smugtranstwitter: :smugtranstwitter:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/smugtranstwitter.webp)
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A
phrase along with โb@sedโ
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All meme culture is
shit
@Grue stand with israel
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no
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daddy peepeeriders right on schedule
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Daddy Defense Force out here defending orange father's honor makes me feel like it's /r/drama circa 2016 all over again.
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He didn't do nuffin, and if he did, it doesn't matter bc everyone hates him and rigged it against him
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This but unironically
@Grue stand with israel
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I wonder why everyone hates him ๐ค
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This but unironically
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Stormy's lucky that he's not a Clinton
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Darn, he's r-slurred.
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This whole thing was because he paid off a pornstar to frick him and wrote it off as an expense?
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Paying stormy daniels to shut upLol the crime was โmisrepresenting statements to conceal a crimeโ![:marseybigbrain: :marseybigbrain:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseybigbrain.webp)
and they didn't bother charging him with any actual crime. They just argued his attempt to steal the presidency was the crime in question, and so this unrelated payment was to aid that.because the payout was somehow considered a campaign donation under NY law and so it was a crime because it was too big I guess?Jump in the discussion.
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34 counts of 175.10 with the underlying intent to commit violations of 17-152, 1801, and 1802
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what r u gonna do when he's reelected? worlds ending in 5 yrs I started screaming it to kids in the street "worlds ending in 5 yrs ur parents n u are gunna die!"
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IF
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trump and climate change r inevitable ur gonna die what r u gonna do when trump rounds up the homos?
I started screaming it at gay parades "trumps getting reelected ur zaddy and u r all gonna die!!"
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I'm enjoying how angry you are
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you're r-slurred babe
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You're seething and it's
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why are you at gay parades?![:marseyhomofascist: :marseyhomofascist:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyhomofascist.webp)
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we are all goin to die so i started to take my addiction to next level. what is even the point. feelin helpless. lost. confused.
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Probably gonna grill tbh![:#marseygrilling2: :#marseygrilling2:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseygrilling2.webp)
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I know what the charges are I just think it's r-slurred. They charged with conspiracy to cover up a crime they didn't charge him with
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He was charged with falsifying business
records and campaign finance
shit.
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The falsifying business records isn't a crime in of itself. It's civil fraud. The crime was doing it to cover up a crime, and the actual crime is some weird esoteric NY common law recognition of stripper payments as campaign donations (or a biased court).
Supposedly the jurors were instructed that they need not agree on the crime the defendant had originally committedโ they just needed to believe him guilty of a crime, and that this was used to cover it up.
I'm absolutely sure it holds up in court but it's so divorced from common sense. Like the resisting arrest charges thrown at people for saying no to an unlawful arrest.
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You're bragging about a fake victory and u know it
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are those radio stations?
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There's a reason "it's not the crime, it's the cover-up" is a 100 year old meme that even stupid fricking hoodrats have heard of. What's DDR's excuse?
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Since when is it illegal to pay women to be quiet.
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It's not, but this is New York. Apparently his lawyer listed the payments as "legal fees" rather than "reimbursements" and that becomes a few dozen felonies.
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It wasn't his lawyer that listed them that way. It was his CFO.
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Ah yes, totally different scenario
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So why is Trump charged and not the CFO?
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Because Trump wanted the CFO to hide the funding of the payments
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So it sounds like the CFO committed the actual crime then?
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It somehow violated campaign financing laws iirc
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The argument is that it's because the payment was from Trumps personal funds, and since it helped him win, it should have been campaign funded. Of course, it also would have been an illegal use of campaign funds so he couldn't have done that either. You see, he's guilty because it was her turn so any action he took was illegal for denying her.
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Oh, that makes sense!
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Yall can have stormy daniels tried for extortion as a treat.
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She didn't try to extort him. She was going
to take her story
to the National
Enquirer or some rag, and they were in league with Trump
and would
pay people for the rights
to their stories about him and then bury them.
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Definitely guilty of that but I don't really care !slots222
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i think he used campaign money to do it, which is pretty funny but the FEC chimps out when you do stuff like that
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No I think they argued that because Cohen was instructed to do it by Trump, it was an illegal donation to a campaign. Like how PACs have to avoid speaking with their candidates to keep spending insane amounts of money on them.
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Stormy Daniels was at a strip club near me a few years ago and some of my friends wanted to go but I had no interest.![:marseybegone#thot: :marseybegone#thot:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseybegonethot.webp)
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BEING A REAL NEIGHBOR.
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He is now one step closer to Afro American
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hide your marseys hide your dogs
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kek
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He didnt invoice his prostitute correctly and it made a lot of libtard mad
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WE ARE A NATION OF TAX LAWS
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He had consensual or at least semi-consensual s*x with an aging ugly old porn star, which is not illegal.
He bragged about privately while she lived in shame and only told a few close friends, and both chose to keep it publicly a secret, for different reasons, neither of which is illegal.
He ran for president, and people in the know started offering her money for the story, which is not illegal.
The top bidder ended up being team Trump themselves, to pay her not to tell anyone else. That is illegal, if they are trying to influence an election. It's gross but not illegal, if Trump were only trying to hide it from his wife or from Russian oligarchs or other people with power over him, but it is against the law to try to interfere with an election by paying them to keep quiet.
Trump also then participated in a scheme to falsify business records, to conceal the payments, and to pretend they were for legal expenses etc. Also illegal: businesses operating under the protection of NY State law are required to submit honest financial and other records. He lied on the required submittals and falsified financial records to conceal the purpose of the payments, which is illegal.
Being a liar is not illegal, and fricking aging porn stars is not illegal, and paying them money to keep it quiet is not illegal, but lying under oath on tax forms and business records and FEC submittals is illegal.
Trump being a fatbag old horndog is not really what got him in trouble here, so much as being a congenital compulsive liar. Lying isn't usually illegal, except when you explicitly swear under penalty of law to tell the truth. Then it's illegal to lie.
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Didn't some absolute Coomer here say he fricked Stormy Daniels a few years ago for like $1200? Which is... Fairly low to be Eskimo buddies with a president (not counting the 57 million men who are unknowingly Eskimo buddies with Clinton) but also that weirdly budget price is very on Brand for Trump
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Not quite. If it's done for the election, it has to be reported as a campaign expense.
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Why is it gross?
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I see your point.
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Putting him in court over and over again ruins the impact. Lemme know if he's actually off the ballot or something
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We get to see CNN breathlessly jerking itself about this for 6 weeks before the next thing happens.
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Trump secretly used campaign money to pay off a prostitute, which isn't legal, but his supporters are blaming the libs for it instead of him.
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Colluding with Russia and doing a coup
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Misuse of campaign funds to go towards getting Stephanie Clifford to be quiet.
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He was in jail for being too based
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Are you asking about the pretext (whether paying off a ho to keep her trap shut was a campaign expense or not), or the underlying reason (the Party hates him and wants him out of the picture)?
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