I say it as a European. 
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https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/r77mb4/usa_is_a_scam_i_say_it_as_a_european?sort=controversial
OP is legitimately mentally ill, all she does is complain on Antiwork and Childfree about how she hates working 40 hours a week with two job just to spoil her child.
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Hey Jamie, pull up the US-EU bilateral migration statistics.
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What does this mean? I like stats pls share
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Compare how many people immigrate to the US vs those that emmigrate away from the US. Here, let me pull up R and do a quick plot. All countries are above the diagonal, indicating more people from the EU countries are immigrating to the US than vice versa, indicating more people prefer to live in the US than the EU. Data from https://migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/immigrant-and-emigrant-populations-country-origin-and-destination.
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I have no idea why you'd think a plot makes more sense than a bar graph to display this data.
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That's why I get paid the big bucks and you don't.
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Also statcels don't make the big bucks unless you're a Quant lol.
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Lol ok ๐
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You're comparing two numbers, a scatter plot is a ridiculous tool for this job.
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Scatter plots allow quick comparisons of two numbers.
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It makes anything beyond a directional difference less salient. And what's up with the scale you're using?
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Wrong.
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You've never heard of log scales and you are trying to lecture me on plotting?
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27 pairs of bars would be messy, with the scatterplot he can just include the y=x line like he did and see at a glance that all EU countries have more emigration to the US than the opposite.
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I honestly donโt understand your argument.
The only inferior point for a scatter plot is the legend, but the point of his plot wasnโt to show any particular country, just to show that EVERY country was net positive to the US.
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The degree of te difference seems important and is not immediately apparent in this graph. Maybe stats majors know how to pull out that the average distance from the x=y line implies a 5x immigration rate to the US but it's not at all clear to a layman. Just a table would be more clear than this.
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I agree people recognize tables easier than scatter plots, but the dude was flexing R, which meant his audience was nerds who canโt get a STATA license, and for them a scatter plot is probably a much quicker way to get the point he was making.
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least neurodivergent rdrama poster
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Yes, imagine using R when pandas+numpy+matplotlib+statsmodels lets you do the exact same things while having a general purpose programming language attached to them.
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But how else will I get to make graphs telling me that my football team is guud?
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One google search later: nflfastpy
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just use excel lmao
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I mean this graph would be perfect if immigration was equally difficult bi-directionally. Thereโs also lots of people who work in the US and retire to their home country to avoid ๐ in their retirementโฆ
Still, when I looked at immigrating to Austria I would have to almost half my salaryโฆ US just needs to sort its healthcare and housing and it would cuck every euro nation a million times over
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Attributing the discrepancies to immigration difficulty means that the US has a laxer immigration policy than EU nations, which the typical open borders shitlib should love.
I would absolutely love for the US to get a handle on military and healthcare spending, because it is subsidizing the rest of the world through that. Pharma companies make half their revenues in the US - if we got our costs under control, OMG.
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Donโt hold your breath. The power dynamics that lead to cost creep are so systemically-entrenched in the health industry.
There are a few paths forward to reverse the trend, but it would require expanding Medicaid eligibility but lowering the range of covered services so that you could better leverage govt buying power against local health providers.
But good lord Iโve spent my career with only marginal success pushing this line of thought. The left hates the idea of reducing coverage, the right hates the idea of covering able-bodied adults, and you have the most powerful lobbyists in the country like the American Medical Association high off their own supply, and god help you if you run into a self-righteous MD.
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One huge racket I've heard of is how the AMA restricts the number of residencies. Some fields (e.g. ENTs) keep supply really low so they can continue to pull the big bucks for doing relatively simple and routine procedures (e.g. ear tubes and tonsillectomies).
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Restricts scope-of-practice for mid level providers even though 80% of an MDs job can be done by a nurse-practitioner, objects to accreditation for new medical schools, refuses to recognize foreign medical licenses and encourages local chapters to oppose recognition of accreditation from other states.
And in the context of all of this, the reality is that oneโs health is far more dependent on their behaviors, genetics and environment. Far more than health care access has ever been or will ever be. And itโs almost a quarter of our whole economy.
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How much estrogen do you ingest daily?
I'd unironically rather have overwhelming military capability and cutting edge boom boom machines than fund r-slurred shit like early childhood education for useless poors.
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Imagine being so cucked that you want to subsidize western Europe's military defense.
Couldn't be me.
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It increases my chances of getting to fight Russians before I get too old to deploy ๐ค
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Just go to a nightclub near Brighton Beach and say the second Russian phrase in my signature.
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The US has extremely lax immigration for educated work migration, which ironically is really difficult in yurop. Fitting with that is how the living standard for the rich is very high in the US, higher than most of yurop, so there is a good amount of brain/wallet drain where people get educated in yurop and enjoy BBall-free school and cheaper university, and once they get rich, they dont pay the "investment" back, but go to the US and keep the money.
Meanwhile reeeefuge law, which is the only thing open border spergs actually care about, in yurop is just cucked by ivory tower academics and the (eu) politicians they "advise". Its objectively broken, but thanks to moral busybodies it won't change. The US has a more normal raypfugee law, but also the worst of refugee pressure is an ocean away from burgerstan, making it a lot easier to deal with.
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Most? I think you mean all when you take the better weather into account.
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USA has far superior housing to most Euro countries due to the large NIMBY lobby back in the old world.
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Oh thats good stuff ill save this for when someone commentsabout how much better EU isand blah blah blah. Those color labels are butt tho but ill see if i can make something look prettier later. Good to see another Rcel on here
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With that many colors it's impossible to do meaningful differentiation by color. ColorBrewer maxes out with 9 colors for the qualitative palettes. You could color it by region, but I didn't bother. You could try shapes.
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Id probs just do shapes and then make graphs for each region (ie have western europe, central europe, balkans, maybe northern europe/other)
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It makes a lot of sense if thereโs a lot of data. The line represents an equality mark and you see where you fall on the line.
Though seeing someone use R instead of Matplot or Seaborn is causing me baby-rage
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Your_bussy <- my_pee_pee
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I wonder if it's possible to use flag emojis
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This is bad economics akin to โif people come from monkey why there still monkey?โ
Itโs a safe assumption that migration the US allows comes from international households at higher income ends. So this just tells me people would rather be rich in the US than anywhere else. Fun fact for ya, in the US, the ethnic group with the highest proportion of PhDs are Nigerian; we donโt allow them in otherwise.
If sheโs bitching on r/antiwork sheโs probably poor, and frankly I imagine lifeโs better as a europoor than American poor, and this is based off international quality-of-life surveys that consistently rank American poor as the biggest sad sacks. Why? Probably because theyโre surrounded by evidence of their relative failures.
I was a migration economist for a while and still advocate for throwing open the borders. Women only though when weโre talking about strife-laden shitholes
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If the US allows only immigration from higher-income households yet still has about 5x the immigration compared to emigration, that means that people really want to immigrate vs emigrate.
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Or that they don't speak Austrian.
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Well no shit youโd rather enjoy your wealth in the US than elsewhere. Given how obsessed r/antiwork is about class dynamics, your graph probably affirms their beliefs about how the US treats high earners. So enviable that the wealthy from other countries flock over.
I suppose I do believe that, but I donโt believe its a bad thing.
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Burgers are too r-slurred to leave.
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Imagine not using SPSS
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these numbers arent too informative because most of these countries are absolute shitholes gdp wise. only a real human bean would migrate from the us to romania.
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Why would you use colours that are really similar to mark each country. What a disgusting graph.
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Because I was lazy and wanted a colorful graph.
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I completely forgot R existed.
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NOOOO
YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE DATA YOURSELF NOOOOOOO 
YOU HAVE TO DO A PEER REVIEWED DOUBLE BLINDED $1 BILLION NIH FUNDED STUDY TO INFORM YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT ANY TOPIC NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 
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God I fricking hate R, thanks tor the graph tho
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