Yes they are. Losers coping is always cringe.
That's right! It's time for a 911roofer megathread!
I'm only posting loser's coping. I could farm it out for days but I don't hate you or myself enough to do that.
Or it would be if most of the commie dubs weren't just head in the sand r-slurs. This is going to be a short megathread
I got one coper here
Another
R-slurs are often unjustifiably smug
Some mildly choice cuts here
Nothing but copers
Some tards here
Oh how they love to cope
One commie pole copes
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A lot of people seem to really
not understand how deteriorated the soviet
union
was before
it collapsed. They think
that all the rotting soviet-era stuff is only bad/ugly now, because it hasn't been maintained since '91, but the reality is that a LOT of different
institutions were already completely rotted away already.
That's also part of the reason why the fall of the Soviet
union
was so brutal
in some areas
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I just think it's funny that Yeah, they always point to how quickly the USSR advanced, forgetting how beforehand was a hilariously incompetent Tsarist government and then years of civil war, almost literally any government would have been an improvement
see also: CCCP
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They always ignore the industrial expansion that happened in the last decades of the Russian Empire as well, is not as if the Soviets build their industry out of thin air and Russia was already an emerging Superpower before WW1
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shame they couldn't chill a bit
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IF HE HAD JUST READ MARX HE WOULDN'T SHOCKED AT THE SIGHT OF A STORE WITH FOOD ON THE SHELVES IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHILE THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN HIS![:hysterical: :hysterical:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/hysterical.webp)
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You know, for people who supposedly reject "Great Man" theory commies keep quoting Marx as if he was some infallible prophet (Marxism became a dogma which communist parties would argue over like the Vatican Councils lmao) while peddling the Lenin personality cult which Lenin himself hated.
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I hate how they say they eliminated hunger. Hunger has been eliminated in the usa since like the 30s. Yeah sure I guess some Soviets have more bread and therefore technically they are less hungry but they eat the same 5 things every day? I doubt they have a high nutritional equivalence.
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There hasn't been a famine in the US since the colonial era. Malnutrition during the 1930s was a product of the Great Depression and while it was bad it was far from being a famine. Meanwhile the USSR suffered from mass famine in the 30s and China suffered another in the early 60s which commies blame on "bad weather", as if bad weather only affected communist countries during that era.
It's also funny how commies ignore the fact that the USSR was buying wheat from the US in the 1970s.
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Chincels are the most oppressed amongst us
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I miss Miss Chinny![:!marseyfrozenchosen: :!marseyfrozenchosen:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyfrozenchosen.webp)
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1830s maybe
The last western famine was Ireland. Proof that Russians aren't European tbh
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Irish are far Eastern Europeans
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Were, more like. Bog jumpers got civilized proper by bri'ish landlords in the end.![:marseycapitalistmanlet: :marseycapitalistmanlet:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseycapitalistmanlet.webp)
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Several countries had a famine during or immediately after World War 2.
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Wrong.
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Best part of America is that "hunger" nowadays is defined as "lack of proper nutrition", which is easily solved by eating proper vitamins (fats don't do that tho)
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The new thing is "food insecurity," which means approximately nothing.
Oh no! A 300 pound woman reported that she once skipped a meal in the last 3 months. We're failing as a country! On the brink of famine!
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But how would she feel if she hadnt skipped it?
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Even when living in housing we were able to get food since schools do (or did idk anymore) free summer lunch programs and, at least nowadays, still do food and grocery box handouts
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Those trashy families then rely on that free food because the mother is too lazy to cook or wastes her money. The EBT grocery carts are full of soda and chips.
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You don't see obese on scooters often. Its all hobbling black women with a gaggle of poorly behaved children within a wide radius around them.
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The food was mostly premade sandwhiches for kids and the grocery handouts were of basic ingredients and canned food so you had to cook.
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I've only experienced the ones who get EBT and other monetary gibs.
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It honestly boils down to the fact that you need to eat like 700 calories of protein a day and then spread the rest of the calories into other food groups but everyone just eats burgers.
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Most American's don't need 175, it'd keep them full but they sit on their asses all day
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Didnt they eliminate hunger by starving millions?
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I personally blame the failure of the Soviet Union on Russians being ethnically inferior mongrels who don't understand anything except corruption and violence
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I blame the vodka.
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If booze was an indicator of a failed state than Finnland shouldn't exist.
!boozers boozemisia![:marseyindignant: :marseyindignant:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyindignant.webp)
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Finland isn't real.
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True, but Russians drink a lot less than under the USSR and still have an awful society.
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Why are you trying to be all things to all people?
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It's always this excuse. Fricking heck.
Holy shit, imagine controlling a vast landmass with the coveted black soil, and still not able to match the food output of the decadent United States.
What a low bar to clear. It was so good, that people constantly tried to escape it.
Even the first thread is going to give me a brain aneurysm.
Then this gem came up in the third thread:
We need to produce less, and potential keep the population poor, to keep the workers fed!
I hate communists. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them!![:#marseytrollcrazy: :#marseytrollcrazy:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseytrollcrazy.webp)
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I thought the whole point of communism was owning the means of production. If it collapses because capitalist countries wont trade with them, it's not the west's fault
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Yeah, if cumminism can only survive on capitalist handouts (
why does that sound familiar...), how do they envision global communism to work?
Ah right, magically when theres no more capitalism, all the faults of communism will suddenly disappear and the system will finally work. And if it doesnt work, its because there is some remote pocket of capitalists left that must be
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This is what they actually believe. Communism doesn't provide solutions, only scapegoats.
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They say the same thing about Cuba when they whine about sanctions lmao
just trade with the USSR and China neighbor
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Even Cubans are admitting that their government's shitty policies post-Soviet collapse were more responsible than Yanqui sanctions, although it was not far behind.
Then again, the
were already seething about Cubans wasting their gibs for decades.
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"Help its literally impossible for us to feed ourselves without bennies from the kkkrapitalists![:#marseygigaretard: :#marseygigaretard:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseygigaretard.webp)
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What terrible soil? Ukraine was and still is one of the world's breadbaskets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
!biology !ifrickinglovescience the USSR was peak "scientism", but then again marxists are all about scientism, all about their theory sounding "sciency" with their historical materialism/inevitability nonsense while being hilariously bad at practice.
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so commies can't be self sufficient?
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Neighbors in Ukraine were eating children because the USSR took their (not their) crops.
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Holy BIPOConi, I have only read about that argument from debates in the 30s. These people haven't updated in almost 100 years.
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Weren't some big agricultural industrialization names helping the Soviets?
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All of Western industry were, including Ford and Koch. For example, Stalingrad's massive factory was a carbon copy of a tractor factory in Indiana. Look up Saul Bron
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BUT THE CIA SAID!!!!!
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Didn't the CIA overestimate Soviet economic growth as late as the 1980s?
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The CIA had a really hard time gathering accurate information on the Soviet Union. Heck everyone, even the Soviets didn't have accurate information on the Soviet Union. Even the collapse came as a shock. There's a great book called Collapse about the fall of the USSR. There's a B plot about the American response. Everything came as a shock. Bush had to be woken up at his vacation home when the USSR dissolved. Ironically, the only time commies mention the CIA as a credible source is when they bring up that study.
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I remember reading about a Soviet defector, an economist who worked for Gosplan, who arrived at the US in the late 70s and warned the Americans that the Soviet GDP was just 1/4 that of the US (the Americans estimated it at around 50% of the US GDP) and that the country was going through an economic stagnation which could end on a crisis.
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When Brezhnev coup de ta'd Khrushchev, he brought in an era of stagnation. Andropov knew this back in the early 70's. He warned Brezhnev about it, but was ignored. Andropov was head of the KGB so he was the best informed of all aperachiks. Had he taken over in the 70's the USSR may have survived in a way, though more akin to China. Gorbachev was Andropov's protege and instituted his reforms, but by then it was too late. Contrast that with Deng Xao Ping in China who saw the writing on the wall after Mao died.
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i don't think
there
was any way to save the soviet
union. northeast china
is the most similar to the soviet
union
and it's still a basket
case 30 years after reforms. it's difficult to reform a place
that has had a centrally planned
economy for so long.
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The CIA went by claimed production numbers for raw ingredients, like milk, flour and the like.
They completely ignored (because they had no way to estimate it) the rampant lying about production or the inefficiencies and idisyncracies of the system fun story about soviet whaling. If the soviet prosuction report said they prosuced 200 tonnes of grain, then the population had 200 tonnes of grain to eat. The loss during processing due to the outdated peocesses, the inflated production numbers, the corruption... all of it wasnt factored it.
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For the past 60 years the CIA has secretly been attacking communists with energy weapons that make them stupid, argumentative, and allergic to manual labor.
Look into it![:taysmart: :taysmart:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/taysmart.webp)
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TIL aids and HRT are energy weapons
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/u/cpnchase10 fricks kids
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Commies lol
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