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:marseylongpost: words inside Because rightoids enjoy abusing awards to protect themselves from getting dunked I'll respond to them in 1 post.

The other day @Intervention posted something along the lines of "I remember when the gays were accusing Fauci of killing them."

This was in the context of some r drama conservatards (intervention literally being from r/conservative, the most r-slurred sub on reddit) trying to claim Fauci somehow failed to respond to the HIV epidemic.

The problem being, of course, is it wasn't Fauci, the CDC, or the NIH that failed. It was the Republican party and Ronald Reagan. It's not even remotely shocking intervention is unaware of this because she's a poorly educated moron and perpetually wrong about everything, but still.

Intervention, after another rightoid gave me an award to prevent me from dunking him, responded with this:

STFU wacko. I was alive to remember it and it's easily searchable.

Indeed b-word, it is easily searchable, and had you done so you'd have found this:

https://academic.oup.com/shm/article/33/3/1001/5265310

during the 1970s; by 1979, health professionals began to recognise an epidemic.9 In June 1981, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published the first official US report on the new disease. Over the following months, AIDS took a swift and devastating toll on urban gay communities, with the hundreds of cases diagnosed that year representing only a tiny fraction of those already infected.10 However, the political climate deterred any proactive federal response. In keeping with his agenda of trimming federal government, the new president, Ronald Reagan, had cut budgets at the NIH and CDC. The social conservatives who helped elect him recoiled from a disease publicly associated with gay men—a strongly marginalised and stigmatised social group.11 Federal agency leaders expressed mounting frustrations over the next several years, as the administration blocked congressional appropriations for AIDS-related programmes and impeded the CDC’s attempts to mount prevention campaigns. Medical research at the NIH was relatively less affected by government recalcitrance, but for those already infected or at risk of contracting HIV little federal help was forthcoming. In 1983, activists succeeded in having AIDS designated a disability under Medicaid—but most AIDS patients died before receiving any benefits.

This is a common tactic you see Republicans engage in - they fail to respond to or block a government response to a serious issue, and then years later try to spin the failed response on other people - in this case Fauci.

In 30 years you can be sure the failed covid response will not be Donald Trump, but everyone else, just like somehow Fauci is to blame for Reagan failing to respond to HIV.

The lesson here, you dumb b-word, is that just because you lived through something doesn't mean you have any idea what you're talking about.

Anyone blaming Fauci for a failed HIV response is objectively fricking wrong and warping history.

R-slur #2.

@aydyn

Yeah, moron, not only do people act as projectiles inside the vehicle when unbelted, you can easily be flung out into traffic and cause more accidents:

https://clickorlando.com/traffic/2020/12/07/fatal-crash-closes-i-4-in-osceola-county/

https://mercedsunstar.com/news/local/article254906857.html

There's way more here, but it isn't actually worth trying to argue with people claiming seatbelt laws are tyranny or that they only protect the individual.

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How will rightoids ever recover?

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Open a giant wall of text making fun of rightoids

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nobody cares you pathetic cute twink imagine crying on the internet

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You commented twice here, that imply you do indeed care. When I don't care about things I don't respond to them.

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Unfortunately, I think xe won this round by default. You replied to xir comment, which implies you care about xir caring, which is lame.

It’s a tough situation. Because the point about not responding to things we don’t care about is the winning one. But in order to express it, you must break the very rule and outlook it espouses. A veritable conundrum, if you will. Such is the utility of the “read receipt” in text messaging.

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TARD FIGHT TARD FIGHT

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idc in the way you think i do you r-slurred cute twink

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Do you think this brand of belligerent r-sluration is impactful?

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I can’t believe he gets to say r-slur

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my belligerence completely disrupted this degenerate shithole website. it was asked for too btw

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Oh nooo we've been disrupted, how can we possibly recover from this? We got too cocky, twinkbros :marseypearlclutch2:

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ill be talked about here for a long time

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Bro you're going to have to do better than this to be remembered here. I'm sorry but compared to your predecessors you're a garden variety moron.

You're more memorable than some, but your brand of r-sluration is too generic.

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im not here to be remembered just want everyone to know including you that youre a subhuman cute twink. just a larp btw

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Who?

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exactly. im a stranger and i still got more recognition here than you ever will

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HIV needs to be cured already because its drama value peaked 30 years ago

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r/conservative, the most r-slurred sub on reddit

:interuptedreading:

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Other people being r-slurred and wrong too doesn't mean the rightoids are right.

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I'm pretty sure they're protesting the elder Cuomo here, so you right. But there were also rightoid proposals to shut it all down, not sure how Fauci fit into all this, this was best I could find https://aep.lib.rochester.edu/node/49111. Apparently Kramer didn't like the sort of testing Fauci was doing

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I mean I'd believe this, but even this just seems some people mad at the failed government response and trying to blame Fauci and not the person directing it: The Reagan admin.

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That letter is from 88 by a gay. Not sure of Fauci celebrity back then but I don't think they had reason to be mad at him beyond his actions. What does a proper government response even look like? Did anywhere get it right? Beyond policing of gay s*x I don't think there was much that could be done. He might have fricked up a preventable gay pandemic but with AIDs the worst thing I could find was he didn't talk about it until 1985 which is when lots of people started dying.

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I linked something on it:

https://academic.oup.com/shm/article/33/3/1001/5265310

The government genuinely fricked up.

Mid-decade, two events awakened the possibility of federal leadership. In 1985, the death of actor Rock Hudson became the first high-profile celebrity death officially attributed to AIDS. This loss may have moved Reagan—a close personal friend of Hudson’s—to confront the mounting toll of HIV/AIDS on communities and health infrastructure; it certainly galvanised public concern.16 Then, in 1986, the Institute of Medicine (IOM)/National Academy of Sciences published a report noting the extreme fiscal strains mounting at hospitals in hard-hit cities and advocating a strong, coordinated response to the disease. Later that year, Reagan’s own Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, followed suit. Both reports rejected the coercive and punitive measures being advocated by conservatives and recommended massive public education campaigns, increased availability of confidential testing, and a long-term, comprehensive research programme.17 The combination of heightened public concern and official policy recommendations made it increasingly difficult for the Reagan administration to continue its concerted policy of non-action. Activists were finally able to pressure President Reagan into appointing the Watkins Commission to investigate HIV/AIDS, and the country inched toward action. Still, the US government’s slow response and halting incrementalism contrasted sharply with events in Britain, where Margaret Thatcher’s Conservative government had already assumed proactive leadership on HIV/AIDS by this point.18

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I'm the one who gave you the award and your immediate response of seething copiously in my inbox made it absolutely worth it. This :marseylongpost: seethepost on top of it is a :taychefkiss:.

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Wow this effortpost sucks

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I didn't read all this so wow they will never recover or I'm sorry they said that to you

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Hmm wow crazy almost like it’s possible to blame multiple people at once, just as these find homos seem to be blaming both Fauci and Reagan

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Literally all they had to do was wear condoms to avoid the million other STDs people knew about for centuries and they still couldn’t do that lmfao.

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It’s a part of the culture you wouldn’t get it.

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R-slurs being wrong doesn't mean Fauci was to blame.

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That’s not what @Intervention said, she just said 80’s gay people said that. And she was right. Ur thing abt “who’s really to blame” is irrelevant cope

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Nice try r-slur, the entire context of that convo was trying to pin it on Fauci.

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Yet she was right on the facts and u were wrong - appeal to “muh context” is cope

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She was not right, and basic literacy should tell you why the context matters here.

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You see there was sneed, feed and seed. Chucks.. ahahahah suck and frick

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Sneed, he sold feed and seed wich is totally normal, but chuck, he sold suck... and frick

:!marseysneed:

Like intercourse and fellatio.

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My oh my how did the simpsons get away with this one

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Honestly I want u/then here solely so you two can fight

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r/conservative, the most r-slurred sub on reddit)

That's a bit of a stretch and you know it.

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No, it really isn't.

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There are the default subs, the Bernie subs and the lgbt (groomer) subs. Arrr con tends to be slightly self aware. One of their jannies actually helped me set up a bait sub once that I never ended up executing.

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R conservative is many times worse than all of those subs.

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How do you figure? Arr con is the other end of the reddit Horseshoe but they're not allowed to be too extreme or else the chadmins ban them while the leftoid subs get to run wild. Last I checked they avoided all the Q and antivax stuff and were mostly normal people that didn't like trains.

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Why are you even engaging with this r-slur?

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I honestly like pizza.

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Let me show you how I figure, this is the kind of shit you find r con before the jannies mass delete everything to cover up what the sub actually is:

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Honestly the fact the jslurs delete it speaks to how the subreddit is better. Equivalent stuff on leftoid and default subs that would word for word change "blacks" to "Christians" just gets left up.

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They fully endorse all of this, they just don't want reddit banning the sub. I've gotten in arguments with r con mods off site and they're even worse than what I linked.

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This is really the opposite of the experience I've had. We spoke to different mods I guess.

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Why do you get into arguments with Reddit mods on other sites...? Just why??

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They fully endorse all of this

You couldn't be more full of shit. It's coming out your ears.

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You're a 🐸?

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Still better than srd


:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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Did you forget about arr atheism?

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(Witty comment)

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38K deaths a year in the U.S. due to traffic accidents and you pull two that don't even prove your point lmfaoooo

So there's no ambiguity whatsoever, let's quote what you originally said:

"And you aren't really only hurting yourself, when you go flying out of your car you can easily hit others and harm them." [sic]

Except the people in your examples don't hurt other people... lol.

How mad do you have to be to spend that much effort only to prove you're an idiot.

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PS: Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone a rightoid, idiot.

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You can absolutely cause traffic accidents you 70 IQ community college drop-out.

You are a mongoloid.

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So find an actual example of it then lol

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No, because I don't feel like sorting through 500 law pages. Basic common sense should tell you being thrown into oncoming traffic can cause more accidents.

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Then cite one lmao. You are so unbelievably stupid.

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I'm not going to dig through 500 law blogs to prove to a mongoloid that basic common sense exists.

Now stop responding to me and go be a 70 IQ mongoloid somewhere else.

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Thats because you cant find one, but you sure did try. Nice try moron.

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No I didn't even try, I just know there's going to be 500 law blogs talking about it.

Either way, common sense exists no matter what. You are low IQ.

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Lol "common sense" is the saddest retreat I've seen from you. I suggest if you realize you're wrong you could pivot to some obscure Wikipedia article or giant tome no one will read.

I know you would never concede a point, but usually you do better than this.

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I'm not going to prove to some r-slurred soy that the sky is blue.

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Hard to dunk on them when no one's going to read it

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Pizza you should post conservatives on twitter saying stupid shit and/or getting ratio-ed. I need help to make the site more balanced. I found a dumb Jack Prostatioa or whatever tweet but it never caught on

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I bet next you're gonna say helmet laws are for others on the road too lol 😆

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Neither of your links show an ejected person causing injury to other people.

When you ride in a vehicle without someone wearing a seatbelt you're assuming the risk that that person's body may bonk you in the head and hurt you in the event of a crash. It's the same risk you take when you ride with someone who's been drinking.

Seatbelt laws are tyrannical and should be abolished.

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"

- Iowa_hawkeye

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If you can be thrown into traffic, you can absolutely cause further accidents, people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.

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Doesn't seem to be the case though and the laws aren't written like that's the case, especially with around half the states not requiring adults to wear seatbelts in the back seat and in many states it not even being a primary traffic offense.

The laws are written for personal protection, not for the protection of others.

Stop using extremely rare events to justify tyrannical laws that's purpose isn't even to stop those extremely rare cases.

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Anyone claiming seatbelt laws are tyranny literally deserves to be taken behind a shed and shot in the back of the head to prevent them from breeding.

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Same could be said for the tyrants, the tree of liberty is thirsty.

If people want to be dipshits and not wear a seat belt, let them. Don't justify your need for control over others by bringing up things that rarely ever happen.

I decided to look and seat belt laws are a primary offense in more states than I thought. Them being a primary offense is a big problem, all it takes is a LEO to say I didn't see your seatbelt on to pull you over and that gives the state more opportunity to violate your rights and waste your time.

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What is it with libertariantards and the misuse of that quote?

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I used the quote correctly.

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No, you didn't.

The entire context of that quote was Jefferson writing a letter to the US military when they were violently crushing an uprising against the government.

In fact the people rising up against the government were doing so over taxes, and were hanging tax collectors from trees:

As a symbol of their protest, they designated certain trees as “liberty trees,” like those used during the Revolution to hang tax collectors working for the British Crown. They demanded changes in the tax laws, they had guns – and they were prepared to use them.

The Massachusetts state government reacted forcefully to put down this threat to their power, with encouragement from Founding Fathers like Samuel Adams. In the rebellion’s most significant “battle,” dozens of protesting farmers were killed or wounded by the state militia. Hundreds were eventually put in prison. Some were executed.

The actual quote being:

“What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”

He was talking about killing people that were revolting against government authority.

Unless I misunderstood you and you were saying this in response to me saying you should die.

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I think you should read the entire letter Jefferson wrote along with getting it in context with the letter he was replying to. Your Google cliffnotes are off the mark.

Now answer the more important question, are you a 🐸?

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all it takes is a LEO to say I didn't see your seatbelt on to pull you over and that gives the state more opportunity to violate your rights and waste your time shoot innocent black people

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If you can be thrown into traffic, you can absolutely cause further accidents, people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.

So find an example. Keep searching!

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people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.

Whereas people will happily just plow into the wreckage of your vehicle? :marseyhmm:

Can't we just say that crashes on the road increase the likelihood of other crashes on the road, and get rid the easiest excuse for cops to profile and wrongly pull over Black people?

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And so should beveraged driving laws for people who can pass a beveraged driving test.


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“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"

100% this hawkeye. I ain't going to give up my loli collection or stop hanging around public schools, lest I succumb to tyrannical rule

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yes the laws exist to protect individuals from stupidity. That is worth doing

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