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Xbox Wants To Know Why Devs and Players Avoid Their Consoles

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Despite Sony's best attempts at becoming an even worse laughing stock and Nintendo's unending moral bankruptcy, Microsoft has somehow still managed to be the worst of the three when it comes to consoles. In fact, everybpdy memes the PS5 for having no games but nobody even knows the current gen xbox console (Xbox Series X One? idk) because quite honestly there's no reason to buy one - and with the plethora of xbox layoffs recently this trend might continue. In an interesting turn of events, Microsoft has put extra emphasis on its Xbox Research team and furthermore wants to reach out to devs; The idea, obviously, is to gather and implement the data from these devs as effectively as possible, and it's intended to affect everything from large studios to small independent developers. Interestingly, Team Xbox wants feedback from those who aren't currently shipping their games on Xbox as well, allowing for "fresh perspectives" in the process.

"If you are making video games, we're interested in hearing from you. If you aren't on Xbox, we'd love to know why. And honestly, if you are using our competitor's products, you probably have a great perspective we could learn from!"

"It's a bit like testing players who play games like yours – they are your target audience and you want to hear fresh perspectives because their expectations may differ from folks who are deep in your community."


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If the majority of developers simply say "the sales of products on your console compare to the competition isn't enough to justify the cost of porting," I am not quite sure there is anything Microsoft can do about that.

Despite how things have turned on for the Xbox brand, MIcrosoft really did try hard this generation and it just didn't work.

Microsoft handled cross-gen way better than Sony

Microsoft provided a much better feature set for Series X|S over PlayStation

Microsoft released actual new games. Microsoft couldn't predict the reception of said games, but not one first-party game Microsoft released said "Remastered" or "Director's Cut" on the box nor did Microsoft charge $10 more for Series X|S upgrades.

It's honestly just over.

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Microsoft released actual new games.

And they all sucked.

Nintendo is the only winner this gen imo.

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Nintendo is the only winner this gen imo.

Think they are going to manage to make a successor to the switch without making r-slurred decisions that kill sales?


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Lol no

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Only thing Xbox has going for it is Microsoft Flight Simulator, but it's pretty gay without flight controls like honeycomb that are experienced best on a PC.

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Everything MS makes is also on PC. There's absolutely no reason to buy an Xbox if you have a decent PC. They're losing money on the consoles so I guess it makes sense for them to only want to sell them to people who aren't willing to build a PC, but it's also just giving up on the whales who buy every console.

I thought their plan was to kill PlayStation then switch to selling essentially PC hardware under the Xbox brand (controllers, a steamdeck competitor and pre built PCs marketed as consoles), but apparently their plan for world domination really didn't go any deeper than "get people :marseybrainlet: hooked on Gamepass"

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Based on the fact that it's microshat, the plan was:

  • buy most game studios

  • run game pass at loss

  • nobody wants to buy a game at full price instead of using game pass

  • competitors die out as none have M$ level cash reserves

  • slowly wind game pass investment down to zero, and increase subscription fee to infinity

  • profit

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nobody wants to buy a game at full price instead of using game pass

One of the few times assuming the average consumer has a negative IQ was proven wrong.

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Average consumer has negative IQ, vidya just has a very different audience than music or TV/film

The average casual buys a few games a year, a yearly sports game, a shootygame (CoD) and maybe some AAA shit that catches their eye. The value proposition of Gamepass isn't there for those people

The poweruser OTOH wants the ownership and control, instead of reliance on Microsoft adding/pulling games at will, nuking all modding, and taking away all your games if you say BIPOC BIPOC BIPOC in voicechat

Gamepass just doesn't have as big of a potential userbase as they thought, at least for now.

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I think the problem is that the userbase is quite large, but to actually implement what they want to they need to actually corner the video game market as a whole rather than carve a decent niche out as they have done. There's a huge amount of pc players (not just terminally online people) that are resistant to using anything that isn't Steam.

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They really should make Gamepass exclusive to Xbox. That would solve pretty much all their problems

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Why the heck would you play Pop In Simulator on a literal Pop In Simulator Machine.

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PS4+5 have roughly the same sales as the Switch but generally I agree.

In fact, this was most likely the last competitive gen ever.

When the Switch 2 drops it will all be over ... unless ... SEGA chads ... our time will come. :shadowkick:

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Even then Sony game sales are lackluster, it's comical how much they fumbled it.

Valve is unironically the only real competition and even then not really.

Turns out Xbox was right when they said the console wars would soon be over.

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Steam Deck fricks hard

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Switch 2 will probably be the only time i buy a Nintendo console since n64.

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Microsoft handled cross-gen way better than Sony

This is what killed them. G*mers love the boot.

Snoys are fricking pathetic

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i think that a big part is that the Xbox originals that brought people in went down in quality/are easily accessible on PC now. That and the price of a console has gone up significantly, at that point i couls buy a descent PC and it can also play games. Sony/nintendo has a stranglehold on their exclusives by comparison and they do novel things with thwir systems that xbox neglects to do.

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i can't wait until consoles die off anyways. the whole closed software ecosystem is such a meme

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Sony and Nintendo have coomer games on their platforms.

Microsoft does not have coomer games on the Xbox.

Problem solved.

Pay me $250,000 and 72 cans of La Croix.

Links as proof

https://psdeals.net/us-store/genre/24

https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Games/Nintendo-Switch-download-software/Hentai-Games-Collection-2588868.html

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"I'm going to dump $120 a year just to play calla duties onliyne" :#marseystitchgamer:

"WHY are none of my friends buying consoles anymore!" :#rukiddingme:

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What even is the point of a non-handheld console anymore it's just a standardized gaming PC

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You're not allowed to run your own code on it so no piracy!

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also you can get a pretty good laptop/tablet now thatll run most games

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I don't know how anyone can get invested in console wars in current year. Xbox vs Playstation is like watching two senile asthmatic old men trying to fight. There are no winners and it's just depressing to watch.

Even PC is simply winning by default, because it has a large catalogue of old games that are actually good. Backwards compatibility is :marseygem: in hard times like these

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Making controller games for PC is fine, everyone can build them these days. Let Sony rip off the strags who can't

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I have an Xbox Series X. Literally sitting idle since more than a year, didn't even turn it on. If you have a PC there is no point, get PC gamepass for cheaper and play all the games available on xbox

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Xbox makes really good media centers that are also shitty games consoles.

I put Kodi and real debrid on my Series S and that is its job now.

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If you don't already have a tv solution, an android box/smart tv running stremio and RD is a lot cheaper and easier to deal with. It syncs trivially with my other devices like my iphone, ipad, mac and gaming laptop on top

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Xbox is decent for the price you are getting, however if you already have a PC it is literally pointless to get one.

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Really Xbox is lucky to have lasted as long as it did, if it wasn't for Halo and Sony botching the PS3 release, I think the brand would've been retired in the early 2010s.

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Consoles existed in times where gaming PCs were uncommon and expensive.

Nowadays there is much less reason to get a console

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Nihonji win again! Gg nextcrap American dogs :marseychingchongsupremacy:

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I'm going to buy a console for the new gta next year. I can't decide who I want to frick me. Probably not pc since gta sucks on pc and they won't release it for years


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It's simply the fact the xbox has no games, when jew spencer said great games wouldn't change the console war, he should've been fired on the spot. Why would I buy an Xbox when every first party game is going to be on PC day one? and increasingly on PS5 too? Might as well just get a soystation so I can play their exclusive games as well. Want to save Xbox? Increase the value proposition of owning one. Sell your console at a loss - at least $150 cheaper than goyny, push game pass hard and make it a console exclusive, heavily promote and streamline the game sharing home xbox thing - and expand it to digital families - so groups of friends can chip in and all get unrestricted access to the same game (the loss from this will be made up from people buying more), games have to be console exclusive with PC releases restricted to a minimum of 3 years later, and most importantly the exclusive games actually have to be good - start making more frequent AA games - a Halo being mid wouldn't be as big a deal when we'll get another new one in 2 or 3 years instead of being stuck with midfinite for 6+ years or whatever it ends up being.

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It's because during the ps3 days sony bribed every games studio to do tournaments on Playstation, and give their players unique items and early access/ exclusive maps.

That's the whole reason.

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I can't imagine buying hardware that's like < 1/3 the performance of my PC that I built 2 years ago :#marseysmug2:

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