Bongs are asked if the situation has not necessarily developed to Britain's advantage 
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Lots of things have bothered me, a lot, over time. Brexit, Amazon & Google, Netflix, Trump, AI... But it's only been specifically recently with Musk and Farage that I truly felt scared for my future, my kids future.
Right off the bat we are faced with the full frontal delusion of the average 
. After his country is bombarded with 1.2 million people a year during a time when COVID had dealt a Mortal Kombat finisher to an economy in terminal Stage IV socialism, the bong sifts past all this to find a single guardian headline about Elon Musk meeting with Farage (The devil himself).
I literally have no idea why he references Netflix. I'm sure it isn't all the 
they added to our period dramas 
The idea that Musk can do trivially choose to give any amount of money to the far right in our country
political donations? Perish the thought! The Supreme Soviet Presidium of SSR Blighty would never take money from wealthy donors 
Diagnosing the Collapse
To anyone with eyes, the reason for Britain's demise is completely fricking obvious. To the labour voter, however, this poses a problem since access to young moroccan bussy is a point of personal contention, and so he must invent 
alternative explanations as to why their Christmas market looks like this:
I'm worried about the UK now. Average British person these days sounds like Oswald Mosely.
We live in a period
The same journ*lists who stopped using X because it's 'far-right'? Or was it the ones who Made out that Rwandan mass murderer Axel Rudakubana was a welsh Christian and innocent Choir boy? Perhaps it was the journ*lists who, at risk of prejudicing a trial, invented a Pakistani Migrant superhero who was able to 'wrestle a knife' from an attacker, unharmed and unbloodied with no witnesses, only to deliver a pro-migration homily in a pull-focused interview? 
Of course, they're 'scapegoated' because it's literally impossible that immigration could've maybe, perhaps, possibly caused a public finances problem.
How would this affect you personally? 
Well, I would stop reading stories about women being r*ped to death in public by somalians, for one thing. Quieter buses for another. 
It's a fait accompli, comrade! Nothing can be done, we just have to Spend 5.7 billion pounds on asylum seekers because of uhhh George Bush or something 
in actual fact the issue has always been a chronic underinvestment in actually useful services
It's because we haven't sacrificed enough blood for the blood god!
Render to the worms what is theirs! 
Another 50 billion for free dentists in Eritrea 
ignore that silly little graph teehee 
We've been fricked since Thatcher destroyed the post war consensus
Oh, it was Thatcher, was it? What an original and thoughtful analysis of 2024 britain 
Far right discourse is so normalised that a sitting member of parliament had his bank account shut down for being xenophobic 
Far right violence is so normalised that a man was given over two years in prison for shouting by the same justice system that let an infant r*pe enthusiast walk free! 
The biggest issue for the UK is lack of full access to the EU single market and a customs union.
brave dramatard here baited several 
to emerge from their slam poetry events
How many "hard left socialist" parties were successful in the last General Election?
yeah it's just this really fringe party you might not've heard of it
yeah that's like totally normal, right? 
Looks normal to me! 
I ain't reading all that:
- The bankers the bonuses the bankers the bonuses it's disgusting, and if the tories were serious they would tax the bankers the bonuses to 90%
I invite !britbongs to weigh in with their own interpretation
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It's been 5 years since the boriswave and we're now poorer in real terms. When can I expect this economic growth you describe?
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Gosh, I wonder what could have happened exactly in Q1 2020?
Maybe 100 gorillion rubber dinghys full of muslims all decided to coordinate their arrival in February 2020? 
I didn't say you'd see growth, I said you'd be even poorer without immigrants. Fundamentally the UK is poor because it's a staggeringly unproductive county that combines the bureaucracy of Germany with the work ethic of Italy.
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But that's just a fundamentally r-slurred take because until 2008 we were the strongest European economy and on par with Norway and the US on a per-capita basis.
In real productivity terms we were only slightly lower at the turn of the 21st century, and in median wage growth we were kicking your butt.
Immigrants represent a colossal cost burden on the economy, we're spending 5.7 billion on dinghy male feminists alone, forget the benefits, the NHS and the 150,000 socially housed foreign-born in our capital, one of the most expensive places on earth for real estate. If browns supposedly make us richer, then how has this happened in the time we were importing over 400,000 a year:
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Just don't give them benefits and let them work?
The UK asylum system is extremely rslurred in that it forbids working (officially) and wastes shitloads of money on slumlords and rat trap motels.
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Yeah, or we could just not import them, like we were doing until about 15 years ago?
Qataris, who stuff their
migrants into barracks and force them to work with no rights, no benefits, no vote and a low wage (as you seemingly want us to do) STILL end up poorer:
Just admit that your beloved thirdies are useless eaters who frick up every country they touch, why do you think India, Africa and the Middle East are like that?
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Qatar is a petrostate that is also dependent on US gibs for the naval base there. Their citizens don't really work so it's a moot point since their output is fully dependent on global commodity pricing and how much we want to bomb Iran
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to be fair I'm struggling to think of a country for which this isn't true
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Euros be talking shit until they realize a single spending bill could push them back into the 19th century
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Qatar has been devestated by oil prices decreasing (as has most petrol-states). Nothing to do with immigration, has to do with global economy.
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the claim that importing foreign labour makes countries richer would've been proven by a deviation in this graph from the oil price, however no such deviation exists, which is why I shared it.
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Ur looking at a graph of gdp of one country and trying to extrapolate that to one variable, then to every other country in the world.
Can't even tell if your trolling, no one could be this dumb.
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Qatar doesn't have that type of economy. No amount of labour will increase their GDP by any large margin if oil prices are to lower for drilling to be economically positive.
During low oil prices, petrol states will lower the amount of oil they drill or stop drilling altogether. Labour is not an issue for petrol states when oil is doing bad, because they will be decreasing oil drilling and laying off employees.
Labour only becomes a limiting factor when oil prices are high and can sell more oil than they can drill.
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...which would've been a great point if the Qatari economy wasn't now two-thirds non oil related.
I'm not saying it's a perfect example, but the gulf states model is the only analogue to what my interlocutor described in the context of mass migration.
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Why did India's economy recently surpass the UK's? They're saddled with infinitely more useless eaters
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thanks for your acutely r-slurred comment
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Obviously India has a lower GDP per capita than the UK. Reread my comment.
You said Indians are useless eaters who constitute a cost burden on the economy, having 1.4 billion of them should mean India's economy is negative according to your logic. Why is India's economy growing at a much faster rate than bongland?
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I brought up per capita because making reference to the 'size of the economy' in comparing a country of over a billion people to one of 70 million is a complete waste of time
That's according to your r-slurred logic. Relative economic contribution from indians just has to be less than an equivalent bong to be a cost burden, not negative, although a lot of them are.
Google 'developing economy'
holy shit i can't believe you came at me with such confidence you haven't even read econ 101 
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It's a heck of a lot easier to go from average wage of $2/day to $3/day than for a developed economy without resources to exploit to increase productivity when the entire economy is based on financial schemes and delivering services with poor productivity
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They were always poorer. India was absolutely miserable and suffered famines just 80 years ago while Europe suffered famines in the 17th and 18th centuries.
You can't really compare countries which developed a century ago with developing countries who are late in the game
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Unironically this. There's no need to give them full free healthcare or access to social benefits before they become naturalized citizens. That way you can have immigrants who come to work and get their citizenship after proving themselves.
!neolibs
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!chuds as long as they come in LEGALLY
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You can also make it easier for them to come legally if they're qualified/skilled workers.
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Libs would just film some homeless invalid and ride that to even more bennies than they started with. They have to go back
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I don't think we have the political will to withhold free money from poor immigrants
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This assumes unskilled labor demand is limitless and provides a net benefit to the economy along with offsetting the costs of language and cultural barriers.
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Last time I was in London the place was chockablock with Uber Eats riders delivering garbage so the demand for unskilled labor is, perhaps not infinite, but pretty darn high. Plus they kicked out all the EU farm pickers so someone needs to do that now and it sure won't be Farmer McGregor (he's too busy riding his tractor around Whitehall angry that he might owe tax on a Β£3 million inheritance)
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You couldn't cobble together a coherent political thought if your life depended on it
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Just deport the violent parasites
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Useless stat. GDP growth doesn't rise proportional to population size.
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it's the only useful indicator of the relative wealth of a person in an economy, which relates to the original commenter's claims. I didn't even reference GDP growth rates. You should probably read before replying to avoid coming across like an r-slured seether
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Its not at all. Quite useless for that. India is the best example, decent gdp per capita, but has more people in poverty than any other country with similar.
Because once gdp reaches past a certain threshold, it becomes significantly harder no matter the population size for that number to increase.
Which is why GDP per capita for smaller countries is often times oversized. Look at Singapore for example, the GDP per capita is top 10 in the world, are you telling me the average singapore citizen has more wealth than the average UK cute twink?
Anyway, you're an r-slured cute twink with BIPOC aids and you can't even follow my arguments. You think gdp per capita is a good measure of relative wealth of an indivual in a country. You are more than r-slurred, you're an animal I would stop on you disgusting verminous rat.
I put a stick down your mom's throat to make her puke then make her lick it off the floor. put a gun to your head make you frick your grandad up the butt. I will kill you in real life if your details ever gets leaked. I will sell you and your whole cute twink family into s*x slavery to a clan of aidsey cute twinks. I will stomp on your skull until it cracks open like a watermelon, then piss on your grey matter, which you don't have much of so i will havr to get a scope and aim precisely to hit the microscopic amount of brain cells in your near hollow head. You're a down syndrome midgeted loser. Don't reply to me BIPOC ever again.
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wow you are such a little seether!
I'm not gonna read any of that but thanks for playing 
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Dumb ladygarden
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Cogent analysis
!neolibs the bongs are hopping mad that darkies from the colonies are propping up their crumbling sclerotic welfare state.
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