The Rapport had been the premier Afriaans newspaper for over 50 years, but like so many physical media over the world, they've taken a nosedive when confronted with the competition of instant access digital media,
which could broadcast stories instantly, and for no physical printing costs. Newspapers all over the world have also struggled with the competition in terms of people having become used to "free" news sites (with banner ads) versus a weekly/daily paper's upfront cost.
Additionally a lot of faith have been lost in mainstream media, of all countries - where the predominant pattern appears to be that ground level plebs tend to be more conservative/right-wing than than the more liberally oriented Journ*list class which had some hand in influencing national or international conversations.
This divide between liberal journ*lists and more conservative/rightoid laymen is hilariously apparent for ALL the fricking races in Safrica, but not in the way you would expect, or as similar as you would think as in Burgerland lol
Examples:
For black peeps, like the Zulus especially ( the largest ethnic tribe/group of the country), there has been decisive differences in public perception between the everyman, and the more liberal Zulu Upper Class.
Foreigners would make the mistake that because of the dominacy of the ANC, that liberalism/leftism is the dominant train of thought amongst black peeps, when in reality the conservative Zulus and Xhosas only support these parties/policies because it benefits them personally, like land grabs and gins, and BEE affirmative action.
But liberal notions like pan+African racial unity gets thrown out of the window πͺ when competition, when foreigners from middle Africa, like Zimbabweans, Mozambicans and Angolans are often frequently attacked by Zulus in xenophobic attacks, due to the desperation in a country where there's a near 30% unemployment since COVID.
The Zulu king got "in trouble" from the black national newspapers, because he had invited xenophobia and violence unto Zimbabwean refugees and migrants, yet the consensus amongst Zulus, those amongst the majority poor rural class shared in his opinion, stark contrast to the liberal journ*lists who condemned him.
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For the just under 1 million Indians in SA, they are the most self-segregating and anti-black demographic, with their upfront racism towards blacks going relatively unnoticed because majority of social capital spent against whites
For reference, look at @Sneedman's recent sneed about Indian racism
https://rdrama.net/post/321001/south-africa-and-the-indian-question
Oh yes, in Safrica, Indians are upper middle class, and look down on black peeps, the way Canadians look on sexy Indian dudes.
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For Boer whites you guys don't need introduction on how we are out of sync with the dominant global liberal orthodoxy, it's more Bongs in general whom are usually one standard deviation more liberal than average that's interesting π€
The fabled harmonious racially peace ποΈ βοΈ ful Rainbow π nation of past Mandela's dream, has failed to realize these past 30 years, due to entrenched ANC corruption and even these Bongs on average are now much more right wing than the average than the usual English journ*list.
Additionally English journ*lists have themselves been in the forefront with exposing systemic government corruption
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For coloureds, the coloured dominant Cape Town based media, like magazines and Newspapers, were utterly shocked this year's May 2024 election
When a monumental upset occured, with the ANC losing its supermajority, to the new Zulu Ultranationalist party MP, and the DA getting decent numbers, yet also being similarly cucked in the Cape Town municipality
By losing large blocs of coloured votes to the PA (Patriotic Alliance) a Coloured ethnic nationalist group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_South_African_general_election
Who felt that neither black nor white dominant parties of ANC/DA represented them. They often feel they were too brown for Apartheid and too light skinned for the ANC, as they get shafted by BEE - a legalized affirmative action legislation which can only exist in a nation state where one racial group vastly outnumbers the others.
The breaking and thus weakening of the DA caused intense sneed amongst coloured journ*lists who wanted a unified front against Anc corruption, and that they were surprised by those events are symptomatic of how out of sync their respective journos are with their ground level peeps.
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Point is every conceivable demographic in SA is hilariously more chuddy in some unique fashion, than the journ*list class from that demographic in SA.
As is similar in Burgerland and Europe, but what has made the divide between the global modern liberal orthodoxy even more extreme has been social media, especially Facebook which dominated Southern Africa, compared to twitter in the West.
Many dramatards here are likely more Reddit addicts than Facebook, which has a more boomer/3rd world demographic
In Facebook, even with so much banning and censorship, chudthink rise to whatever counts as the front page, in spite of jannies or Facebook sexy Indian dude mods
In these insane slapfiights, with people often under their ACTUAL IRL identity π, you'll find opinions which make 4chan and 9gag look meek ,and you'll find how decisively the everyman of Indians/coloureds/Boers/sothos/pedis/Khoisan/Zulus/Xhosas are all just one ragebait post away from chipping out and showing the veneer of civilization is a Journos fantasy π π
Thus trust in journ*lists/Media to represent the interests of every group appears to have eroded away the past decades, as social media proliferated along with cheaper internet and smartphones, allowing the bypass of media orthodoxy
During COVID the death knell of physical papers were sounded, as during lockdown people were prevented from going outside to buy their weekly papers, and even the technologically illiterate were pushed through boredom to buy large internet, fibre, or download news apps and join Facebook news groups
Many peeps were thus in a nation wide scale exposed to the convenience and ease of news on their smartphones or computers, and even when lockdowns lifted in 2021, sales never recovered across the industry.
Publications like News24 which jumped ahead with the rapidly changing events were the 1st to rapidly program the best apps and gained a large market share, and thus rode on fire chariots the change from physical to digital media, like Zoom became dominant instantly as the premier online meeting app/program for SA businesses.
Other papers like the Rapport reacted or realised too late the need to have a digital presence to survive in this new world and for the past 4 years have been chugging along on fumes.
The Rapport was hardest hit and most tragic, because it was considered the most impressive and prestigious newspaper in the country, even when democratisation in 1994, when English became the most common tongue, and 10 other languages because part of the recognized official languages.
The Rapport had the intergenerational experience, infrastructure and prestige.
Important world changing events were often sought after specifically in the Rapport, because the best journ*lists wrote there, even Bong journ*lists, because many SA Englishman can speak Afrikaans.
The weekly format actually gave the newspaper credence because unlike daily rags chasing the daily story to make ends meet ,the weekly format allowed the experienced Journos to really do their research and make higher calibre articles.
When the 9/11 attacks occurred the entire nation would wait for the Rapport to a make an extensive and in depth coverage of the events made understandable for plebse
Even English and Sotho newspapers would source or share the Rapport articles afterwards, due to it's influence.
Yet as the internet proliferated, the format of waiting a week to read substantial important news as much as a week later became untenable and unpopular
Independent online news publications became increasingly competitive and competent, and the BEE for forcing it's way into all institutions, meant that white new reporters would seek their fame online instead.
Worsening the cycle of decline was that the Rapport and other news papers became more expensive to make up for the decline in sales ,from 11rand to 20rand, to 30rand, to eventually 39rand, almost the price of a high grade magazine.
But worst of all was that the editors leadership went full r-slur, and began to focus on Daily Mail tier slop, the paper got a reputation as a gossip rag for SA celebrities, which even South Africa doesn't care about, when superior Bong/Burger musicians exist.
Thus the Uber prestigious reputation went to shit. There was a time when the Rapport had special editions with extensive and fabulous resourced articles, with sketches maps and diagrams.
Like their infamous coverage of the killing Saddam or Bin Laden, with extensive details about the special forces involved. Visiting yanks were so impressed, that they claimed the coverage of the events were better than American news networks which were sensational junk news, whilst the Rapport was measured and neutral.
By the time, 2020 pandemic arrived, there was no loyal reader based.
Now this doesn't mean that physical papers will forever be gone, perhaps only that weekly formats are likely in a permanent decline.
Additionally other papers are still going strong, and perhaps only because Afrikaans has declined as a language worthy of catering towards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_South_Africa
After all there's always gonna be peeps enjoying physical media, just like Kindles will never completely replace physical ππππππ books
But the fact remains that physical media is deeply in distress and only continually declining for various complicated reasons.
https://dailyinvestor.com/business/54653/plan-to-close-beeld-and-rapport-newspapers-confirmed/
Earlier this year in June the news went under the radar and most didn't even believe it
A shit load of publications are eating shit
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1033243152150182&id=100063935197932
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So as I understand it, the least racist to most racist groups in South Africa are as follows: English->Coloured->Boerβ>Zulu->Indian?
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Agree![:marseyagreesuperspeed: :marseyagreesuperspeed:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyagreesuperspeed.webp)
Though Zulus and Boers can be tied sometimes
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So, what's up with this. From my experiences, a SHITLOAD of South
Africans speak Afrikaans in private but they're utterly ashamed
to admit they know or speak Afrikaans in public. I honestly don't feel like it's declining, people just don't feel comfortable
using it in public. Had a weird
experience once when I was in a cab which had a white
lady passenger and a white
driver. The driver
and the lady would
speak Afrikaans to each other, then translate to me in English, assuming I didn't understand what they were saying. Like, it's fricking
South
Africa. Most Black
people at the very least can understand Afrikaans even if they aren't fluent speakers.
Formerly Chuck's.
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I'd be ashamed too, sounds like r-slur English
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Just like dutch
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This is sort of what happened to Irish in the 1800s. It was the language of the poor so people abandoned it. Don't think Afrikaners are that poor, but once a language becomes an anti-prestige language it's very hard to convince native speakers to have pride in it.
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Bela just got signed yesterday, take a wild guess
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The Boers are the people who couldn't make it in the Netherlands.
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If you can make it in the netherlands then you deserve to be beaten with a metal (solid iron, thinly coated in lead, mercury & asbestos) stick 4' in diameter and 20' long.
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You're overthinking this. My mom would always get newspapers and magazines. When she was a kid, there was a morning newspaper that your family read at a breakfast and an evening newspaper that you read at dinner. Anything remotely long-form (thank God them didn't have any mottecels burning down the trees back then) would be in a weekly magazine.
You get really locked into these media by a certain age. You develop habits like where you put your head on the pillow while you read something that end up really mattering on what media you choose way more than anyone wants to admit. The geezers who read papers are just dying off.![:marseydoomer: :marseydoomer:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseydoomer.webp)
(Not denying that there's obviously other trends in media, but this is a crucial one that's overlooked.)
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God, they're shit and most of their content
is paywalled. The fact that it's the most popular news site in SA is a darn shame. The truth
is that "on the ground" journ*lism is dead in South
Africa. Without giving too much info on myself, I have written for an SA newspaper
before
and I did it from the comfort
of my home, literally
just sourcing news online, and that's 99% of online
journ*lism these days.
Also, slightly unrelated, but FRICK Carte Blanche, FRICK The South
African
and FRICK MyBroadband.
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Why Carte Blance, did they reject your CV
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For every one story
they have that actually
focuses on people in power, there's like 10 stories of them just griefing poor people. I honestly don't give a shit if a fricking
domestic
worker
has her electricity
illegally connected for her 10 kids. If you aren't going
to help, quit snitching and shut the frick up.
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Do you prefer to read in English or Afrikaans? Are translations of international literature in the Afrikaans language common?
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in english, I've used english so much in books/games and in university that i've lost the strong spelling, grammar and vocabulary I've once had. I'm likely still stronger than the average afrikaans layman, but that's nothing to boast about.
i simply find much of afrikaans media small-minded, and boring and inferior to what the angloshere has produced. i genuinely cannot recommend afrikaans sci-fi, horror, or good historic books written in the past 15 years. I'd have to do significantly more research, as well as actually read the fricking things, because afrikaans publishers and critics are trash, and i cannot trust them, but in a different fashion from the Foidbrained feminist-dominated anglosphere publishing world.
it's either turbo-liberal woke slop, regressive olden days boomer nostalgia goggles non-literature, it's difficult to transcribe. there is good books produced, as there are good music produced in any genre even today, you have to put in the effort to find it - but for afrikaans you like have to put monumentally more effort to find it.
the conservative nature of boers/afrikaans is also semi-reflected upon our literature. Extreme and novel concepts like futurism and 40k heavy satire/criticism is never something you'll find in our literature, it's as dominated by historic farm rural adventure tales, and is as stale as country love songs, as love songs dominate the incredibly stale afrikaans music industry.
it's just so fricking fricking fuking boring and stifling. i don't know how to explain it, but it's like that conversation we had about university being more cosmopolitan and liberal, but also having a vastly greater subject range, with much greater depth - when coming from a rural backwater conservative religious small town, with small-minded thinking and small-minded goals - their entire lives and conversations consist of nothing more than the small town, will consist of nothing more than the small town for the entirety of their lives.
Afrikaans literature feels like this. i do not think myself better than my fellows, and don't think just obsessing over world news crap makes one somehow smarter than your peers. But you strike me as a very intelligent man, your weekly Reading threads about religion, philosophy and world events, just emphasizes how utterly lowbrow 40k slop shit is as literature,
surely you cannot be satisfied with mediocre conversations day after day after day about nothing but the weekly sports or daytime soap opera. These small town conversations utterly chokes me with their mediocrity. i enjoy sports and series, but there is so much more to life.
But worst of all for me is afrikaans war literaure, especially everything printed past 20 years. You once asked me for a literature hot take - i said yanks make overwhelming the most profound and honest war fiction and non-fiction, it's just a higher standard deviation above afrikaans.
i do not know whether this is in reality because there are 1 billion english speaker on earth, with an additional 2 billion 2nd language english speakers with passable bonglish, compared to the literal 1000th the talent pool of afrikaans to draw from, but in the end I'm only human and have a finite time on this earth.
i can either spend considerable efforts to research, and just actually read/audiobook listen to afrikaans literature, or mine the wealth of English.
!bookworms !burgers !freespeech !britbongs i got asked a question and went rambling
also literally forgot 2nd question: " Are translations of international literature in the Afrikaans language common?"
only for like the most famous, and financially viable books, like Harry Potter. There just isn't a large market for large amount of translations. 99.99% of afrikaners speak fluent (with dogshit accents) english, and just read the english books, and if they are in the mood for afrikaans literature buy homebrew books, instead of shitty translations
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Thanks for the perspective
What did you mean by this?![:marseyconfused: :marseyconfused:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyconfused.webp)
Are you saying that you're so familiar with English that you're used to informal English rather than formal English? Or are you saying that you use English so much your Afrikaans is declining?
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my afrikaans is declining
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Terrifying, to slip in your mother tongue in your home country
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They speak a lot of English in Suid Afrika
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Didn't you block me
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Nigerian pidgin
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Interesting about foreign FB posts. I was fricking in Miami/FtL over spring break a fricking few years back with MissAPM when there were fricking massive BIPOC chimpouts resulting in a fricking bunch of deaths. I stumbled onto some Latinks FB posts somehow about the fricking chimpouts. I dont understand mexican, but I did recognize the fricking words: "Hitler," "Jews," and "BIPOC" (hard r). Had missAPM translate them all for me the fricking whole flight home, like 20,000 comments on the fricking post. Except a fricking few she refused to even whisper on the fricking plane.
Made pol look like rpolitics lmao![:taylaugh: :taylaugh:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/taylaugh.webp)
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foreign language social media mostly doesn't have progressive white people moderating it and enforcing their progressive white views![:mjlol: :mjlol:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/mjlol.webp)
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What will people use to light their woodstoves now?
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the mongolians use plentiful plastic to keep their yurts nice and cozy. It is so powerful it covers city with pleasant incense that tingles the senses!!!!
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I refuse to believe that's a real language.
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Didn't read, however
Kill all journos, even bipoc safarican journos
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I only come in contact with newspapers and magazines through my granma and her sister. When older generation dies I wonder if any of that survives. I doubt it honestly.
I always preffered physical to digital myself, even if I seldom read it. While your avarge newspaper was ofren hardly a piece of journ*listic integrity, the Ad-riddled fast food likeinternet news-slop pipeline seems 100 times worse.
At this point I just get my news through social osmosis or this fricking site.
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rDrama unironically breaks news faster than the mainstream
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I thought all the literate people left the country anyways?
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no wonder they weren't selling newspapers. they print everything in gibberish! those aren't even words how do they expect anyone to read it!?
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Crackers!!!!
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Christmasexuals reproduce by raping elves
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Who?
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