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I have never been more motivated in my entire life to not commit a crime now that I have seen prison food.

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I've seen a few comments calling it a more effective Scared Straight


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Scared straight is inaffective and so is scaring potential criminals with displaying conditions of prison.

Potential criminals commit crimes, for many reasons, but usually have damage to their prefrontal cortex and executive functioning, which controls risk reward functioning in the brain.

Without CBT, these people are essentially doomed to making poor decisions, regardless of awareness of outcome or not.

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Like 70% of federal inmates have ADHD, which is in essence, is an underdeveloped/damaged prefrontal cortex. The only solution is CBT, to help develop this part of their brain. Medication can work as well, but won't fix core problem. Exercise can also help develop better reward structures in the brain, but more research is needed.

Anyway, I despise people who know nothing about an issue, speaking their uninformed opinion about a problem.

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Without CBT

I'd have gone with caning or the stocks, but you do you boo

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Trauma, especially occurring during childhood, has immense impact on the brain, most notably within the prefontal cortex.

PTSD for example, has been linked to damage to the prefrontal cortex causing excessive fear, issues controlling inhibition, etc.

Physical trauma as a sollution to issues caused (in part) by previous trauma is r-slurred, and typically only a solution suggested by individuals who derive sexual pleasure from the inlfiction of these acts (sadism).


Regardless, Sadism is a function of Paraphelia, associated with higher estrogen in males, along with higher levels of sexual depravity including bestiality, libertarianphilia, and scatophilia.

So when you make comments like this, you are basically outing yourself as a sexual deviant and possible libertarianphile. Keep yourself safe.

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Additionally, Sadism is rarely displayed in the individual without also displays of Masochism.

Therefore, I can conclude you probably would enjoy such violent acts imposed onto yourself as well.

Should I start by carving out your eyes with a spoon? Or would you prefer the more traditional curb stomp?

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I couldn't agree more, these pictures should be plastered all over the inside of every youth center.

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Its atrocious the conditions in these prisons. Biggest human rights tragedy in the US.

I would suggest for any suicidal people out there, before they rope, to consider domestic terrorism of these facilities in Minecraft.

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I assume it's all carbs and commissary crap like chips so that the prisoners are too fat and lazy to act out :marseyscooter:

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Prison food is generally the absolute worst they can get away with feeding them without killing them. Bare minimum (and often lower) calories, the packaging of most of it literally says "not fit for human consumption"; chips and shit comes from commissary meaning they have to buy it themselves for obscene prices with money sent through JPay or from their $0.09/hour wages.

Jail food is even worse though, hope you like shrinkwrapped bologna and 4 oz cartons of fruit-flavored water and a rock that vaguely resembles a cookie twice a day ✨


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Been to jail, carp?

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It's the prison food that motivated you to not get locked up? Not the daily BUTT POUNDING sessions you get from the inmates and guards day in and day out? Fat frick.

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Fat frick

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I was in the thin ping group, but fell for the toggle switch prank and left all my groups. Been too lazy to rejoin most of the groups

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daily asspoundings you say...

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I feel like I've had worse?

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Someone needs to https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735515635-Zq1X2f5qum3XA.webp geolocate this guy and reportmaxx :marseyreportmaxxer2: https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/contactus/

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Is keeping the phone up his butt not enough punishment? If anything we need to find his number and call him constantly


Putting the :e: in spookie turkey merry new year

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He keeps asking random e-thots to call him. A sufficiently motivated r-slur could just ask for his number via DM if they posted a few stolen nudes. :marseyhmm:

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Stolen?

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You would give me some… willingly?

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Frick off pedał :#marseyfinger:

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Nobody cares. They have videos of people getting turned out on tiktok. Prison in the US is a lawless wazteland. Complete reform is needed.

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>complete reform is needed

I have a suggestion

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He got money from other :marseysoylentgrin: s so I don't think he is trying to hide it.

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i didnt think it was possible to get 2 life sentences in california, tf he do?

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According to him he returned fire on gang members who shot at him and killed one (two?) but the courts apparently said he killed in cold blood

Watching him try and fail to get questions answered by /r/legaladvice about how to get suppressed evidence admitted on appeal and shit by smug Redditors who just criticize his spelling and grammar has been equal parts infuriating and hilarious

>wow ummm you want us to make suggestions but ermm… you can't even use le full stop? :soyjakhipster:


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That subreddit is the epitome of smugly confident yet wildly inaccurate redditors

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Watching them try to interact with an actual convict seeking legal advice was eye opening. God help their clients if any are really criminal defense attorneys.


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Allah forgive me for ppsting a SRDine link but this was my favorite of /r/legaladvice's many blunders

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All might forgive you for posting SRD but he won't for posting something that can't be found. The thread's been nuked and removeddit doesn't exist anymore.

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They don't have lawyers, it's run by a bunch of police officers with the usual egos, power tripping and poor legal knowledge of their profession plus total randos winging it off google and chatgpt.

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>if any are really criminal defense attorneys.

They arent. On occasion real lawcels comment on the legal advice subs, but it is usually limited to something like "this advice is a serious crime, dont do it, not your lawyer btw".

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Or worse: Tardbinn, Attorney at Law.

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Any advice sub is going to attract busybody losers rather than actual helpful people. If I was dating someone who posted in relationshipadvice, I'd break up with them immediately.

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actual helpful ppl usually charge for their advice

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Not even prisoners deserve to be served soy patties :marseyno:

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Massive prison reform is needed more urgently than anything else I can think of. It's never coming though.


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more urgently than anything else I can think of.

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When I'm back home next week I'd be happy to explain this at great length from desktop so I can have an appreciable wordswordswords output. BOP et al are probably the single greatest destructive force in the country after Planned Parenthood. Unlike Planned Parenthood, though, corrections does easily quantifiable amounts of massive harm to both the most vulnerable members of society and society as a whole.

Like I explained to this prisoncel though, the average person thinks about prison conditions approximately 0 times ever because everything seems normal and functioning as intended. It's not. It's an inconceivably huge drain on everything and everyone, and everyone just writing it off as normal and not worth thinking about as it's all they've ever known just makes it all the more insidious.


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Nothing else more urgent though. Not anything that would prevent people from doing things that would send them to prison or save/improve the lives of people who didn't end up in prison?

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Massive prison reform is the foundation upon which any anti-criminality cultural shift needs to be built; nothing else can even begin to work without first addressing that epidemic. Everyone benefits enormously from this. Safety, wealth, productivity, families, children, men, women. This issue that no one ever thinks about leads to and exacerbates such an enormous number of symptoms that, by themselves, appear to be unrelated, separate issues when in reality they're all rooted meaningfully in the failure of the penal system to do any part of its job humanely and thus effectively.


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What percentage of people stuck in the American prison cycle do you think could become productive members of society? And/or does this reform involve a special in-between space for truly degen r-slurs that may not quite deserve capital punishment or life sentences?

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Helps when felons can't vote in prison everywhere (outside of Maine and Vermont) and can't vote afterwards in many places.

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Any sort of disenfranchisement post-release completely undermines the concept of incarceration as rehabilitation or paying a debt to society. It also, like everything else with the system, makes everything so much worse.

Yeah throw a man in a violent hellscape for half a decade or more and then put him back on the streets but tell him he's not allowed to participate in any level of society anymore, God what could possibly go wrong. The deprivation of rights and basic housing and employment opportunities literally says outright that prison just makes people worse.


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I have so many thoughts on this subject and this Reddit prisoncel's posts and a convo I had with him have rekindled my anger over the whole r-slurred system and I want to do something tangible. I've been idly wondering about ways to get the status of those religious groups that provide holiday meals for convicts, except I'd like to provide real food and programming while providing it on not-holidays. Small, but still bizarrely likely totally out of reach with all the red tape.


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I feel like prison reform is one of those things that no one really cares about but we all agree is probably needed. With the exception of a select sliver of people largely on the right (though also some on the left) everyone has seen how going to prison in of itself ruins entire lives. It's just such a fricked situation because of how people treat people who've gone to prison; even if we get rid of the laws disenfranchising prisoners how do we get rid of the stigma that people will treat you? And especially when some prisoners definitely deserve some level of stigma, it just muddies the waters further.

And so to an extent I understand why leftists have been letting "teens" run amuck, the penalties for imprisonment are just so high, and our legal system (when run to form) undervalues them. In California the max penalties for a misdemeanor are being fined $1k or county jail for up to a year. I would much rather be fined 50k over spending a night sentenced in jail just because of the stain it leaves, let alone jails themselves.

I don't really understand how we'd even go about fixing it. Create an intermediate place for non-violent offenders? But then it'd just get ruined in the same way correctional facilities are looked at. I also like the probation/parole system, but that doesn't fix every issue. It's just a shit situation and I'm unsure how to fix it, especially with how violent America is and how overcrowded our prisons can be.

I feel bad for not doing more, but I feel like it's a trap most people fall into with the prison system. Someone thinks about helping prisoners, but unless they have a felon fetish (re: :marseyfoidretard:) they think about it a moment and realize they'd rather volunteer to save puppies or something. It's hard to gather sympathy for "criminals" being hurt, even if it's not fair. So unless you have a direct relative in the system, you usually couldn't care less.

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:#marseydoit:

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Solve homelessness and H-1Bs and prisoners' lack of nutrition all in a very simple single step.

Though the homeless meat might end up less eatable than the Indian; dunno.

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It's not even that costly to feed them basic normal shit lol I unironically want vastly more death penalties and executions but like feed them normal shit jesus


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Also a big proponent of vastly expanded capital punishment on paper. It needs to come with overwhelming reforms to the entire system of corrections first though; recidivism and widespread cultural criminality would both plummet if the powers that be would frick off and understand that both are so ridiculously high entirely because the prison system fixes nothing and just exacerbates everything a millionfold by treating its wards worse than Monsanto cattle.

I don't even think it's to prop up the sadistic for-profit prison industry either; the expense of this catastrophically broken system to the state and society as a whole is eye watering. It's just stupidity and the kafkaesque labyrinth of bureaucracy necessary to enact any sort of meaningful change ensures it will never happen.


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I'd really want to see some proof that doing the norway shit and giving prisoners a luxury hotel suite with a ps5 actually reduces recidivism on like-for-like crimes

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The Norwegian bit you're thinking of isn't the standard prison, it's my understanding that normal prison in Norway is pretty shitty. The cabin set is for, if I recall, the best of the best as they're nearing release and have a clean prison record. It's not reflective of what virtually any Norwegian criminals go through. nvm misread lol you mean breivik

There's a huge spectrum in between American hellhole prison and luxury camping resort though. But generally speaking yeah, if you set it up right—provide programming, teach skills, medicate those who need it and obviously add guards (at a distance), and so on—then giving convicts the reins for their own quality of life and learning to create and build and provide healthily for themselves you're going to get much better results than depriving them of all aspects of their humanity for years and then kicking them back out into the streets with nothing to live for and no way of living for anything.

Clearly we have neither the space, manpower, resources, anything to do this for the entirety of our inconceivably massive incarcerated population and I'm not at all proposing this as a fix. Just that it would work in theory, provided we did have that kind of resources.


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I mean, there's a difference between making prison a luxury hotel out of some recidivism theory, and making it fit for human habitation and dignity out of basic principle. I think most of us can get behind the second one.

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Yeah I'm up for the second one it's just that part of why it's hard to get reasonable improvements is because basically every person working for prison improvement has a secret ulterior motive to do some r-slurred prison abolition shit

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And corruption. Someone is making bank off the contract for that horrid food, for example.

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The rabbit hole with that goes even deeper and more insane than you'd ever guess. Some institutions even give any money saved by decreasing cost or amount of food directly to the warden/COs/etc. This isn't even hush hush or anything, it's just that no one is aware of it because no one ever thinks to look into it.

Prison reform would be a universally popular concept if the face of reform wasn't the nonsensical abolition movement; every aspect of the reality is horrifying. Most people locked up aren't there for killing or raping, either, so the most common intellectually bankrupt retort from midwits ("why shouldn't murderers suffer forever?") is even more r-slurred than it seems on its face.


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I actually knew that because they do (or at least used to do) that same thing in public schools. Money not spent on food went to the cafeteria staff. It's part of why school food quality plummeted.

And yeah, I agree there were two tragedies from the 'abolish the police' crowd gaining control. 1) increased avoidable crime and 2) stealing the conversation away from meaningful reforms and poisoning their movements.

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Looks like he's in solitary, this food is meant to be a punishment.

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Are you me? :marseyquestion:

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Bro, you'd WISH they were actual soy patties

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It's been like 17+ years since I've touched YuGiOh but I remember it was fun as frick when I was a kid. Some game shop near me held weekly tournaments and my mom for some reason let me go to them as a 9 year old versus high schoolers and above. Not only did I get wrecked, but my 4th grade butt traded my 5 pieces of Exodia for junk. Jokes on the dude scamming a literal child though, I'm pretty sure they were fake.

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u can buy exodia for 5 dollars :marseymoney: doe

I remember my brother :marsey1984: traded a lollipop :marseychildcatcher: for some kids entire yugioh :marseyyugi: collection :marseyneat: (he didnt :marseyfingerwords: want it) and weve been usin it ever since

best trade deal ever!

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I think I paid 20 dollarydoos to get them off ebay, which was a lot to my 9 year old self. YuGiOh content has been popping up on my leddit frontpage and it's making me so nostalgic.

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I care brother, I care that you are living in conditions that are animalistic at best. No one needs to live that way and it's unfair that a multimillion dollar prison system is overlooking these things and not spending the ones to at least make the conditions livable. Keep your head up, frick what others say and have a Merry Christmas.

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The willingness and eagerness of redditors to suck criminal peepee needs to be studied

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Very out of touch small-souled comment


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to be fair, it's not all criminals, they only suck the peepees of the ones who committed meaningless crimes like r*pe and murder. true criminals who misgendered someone or said a racist comment they would be sure to say deserve only the most horrific torture

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mama mia

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:#marseybooba:


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Tiktok has a ton of prisoner vids. Not really rare, excwpt for reddit.

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Miss that sperg @BooMetropolis for posts like this :marseysad:

The cellslop they make with chips and shit is really interesting

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/r/prison is a good sub to spectate


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This was genuinely interesting.

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:marseylickinglips: Federalprisonslop

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This is actually state. I've heard the food in feds is actually decent as far as prisonslop goes but I don't want to ever find out.


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Supposedly back in the day Alcatraz had some of the best food, specifically to encourage prisoners to overeat and feel too lazy and tired to riot after meals.

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That's crazy. Apparently California state prisons are no joke, some of the most militant racial politics in the country.

What race is he?

Trans lives matter

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Yeah Cali is insane with that.


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He is a :marseymexican:

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