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F2m navigates the problem with cis-male friendships and men in general.

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2024/12/28/navigating-male-friendships-trans-man/

It's uncommon for a columnist in any publication to write about navigating friendships, but I feel the need to talk about navigating male friendships as a transgender man. In doing so, I will highlight what is wrong with men these days — and what is not wrong — and I can pinpoint various areas where masculinity still remains toxic, and areas where it doesn't.

Alright. Go off queen.

When I first started transitioning to be a man I hated all cisgender men: they were the bane of my existence. I was conditioned to hate cis men because they historically were the ones who repressed trans people. I found though, that when I went on testosterone and started passing as a man all the time, that people suddenly expected me to be nice to cisgender men and to be friends with them.

Who tf is this mean manlet? Just be nice you dumb b-word.

As a trans man, let me dissect what it's like to find the right guy friend. Let's first take a look at all men. Let's say, for instance, that 70% of men are transphobic to some degree. Suddenly, I am faced with only making friends with 30% of these remaining men. Out of these 30% of men, some will not have the same hobbies as me, share the same interests, share the same educational background, or be in the same age bracket as me. Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.

yeah. All of us bros hang with people who are only like us. i have plenty of successful and absolutely r-slurred friends who just like to joke around.

I have had many cis men as friends. But even among those woke, non-transphobic men, there are a few issues that arise. The first is that I have a difficult time talking about any surgeries with them or about my bottom dysphoria. In this same vein, it is difficult to talk to them about anything trans-related, because trans-related issues do not conform to cisgender culture. I've found that even the most well meaning, progressive men find talking about something like dysphoria awkward. Cisgender men are conditioned to make small talk about the NBA, poker, women, and football.

Sorry dude. I don't want to hear about how u wish ur kitty is a peepee. I'm trying to drink.

Perhaps I take issue with how all cisgender men are socialized, then. I've found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or s*x. As a former woman these types of conversations were very commonplace, either in the Yale women cross country's locker room or in small group settings with female roommates.

Wait. Are you saying women are different than men?

It is hard to find a man who I can talk to about transphobia or bottom dysphoria. On that note, the best "male" friends I have in the current day are actually cisgender men who are secretly trans women. It's shocking, at first, to learn that my close friend from college is secretly a trans woman. But then it's enlightening, and it makes sense why they were so comfortable with me being trans to begin with. It's sad, though, that the only "men" I feel the closest to are those who secretly don't want to be men. It's not sad in the sense that I don't want them to transition —every bit of me wants them to transition — but it's sad that I can't get close to other cis men in the same way.

Mmhmmm.

Most of the men I've talked about in this piece are straight, cis men, and I have neglected to speak about gay or queer cis men. In a previous piece for the Blade, I spoke of issues in gay men's culture. I've found that there are many cisgender gay men who mean well for trans men, but that in another regard, a lot of cis gay men are socialized to cast social judgments and prioritize being skinny and fashionable instead of developing genuine friendships, especially when they are in their 20s and 30s. Instead, I've gravitated toward being friends with straight men mainly because I also harbor an attraction to women, and I do, admittedly, like to occasionally make raunchy and lewd jokes, and I feel less judged by straight men. Such a statement may come across as bold, but the truth is that I have very few gay male friends.

Lol.

In any event, dissecting male friendships as a trans man is difficult and multifaceted, but worth it nonetheless. As a trans man, it's fascinating to study other men, and in particular the ways in which they maintain, or don't maintain, friendships. I am eternally perplexed by how some men make jokes and cut others out of friendship circles, but also happy that, at the end of the day, both straight and queer cisgender men can be accepting of someone like me.

Keep yourself safe.

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jesus this b-word sounds insufferable, no wonder she doesn't have any friends

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but that in another regard, a lot of cis gay men are socialized to cast social judgments and prioritize being skinny and fashionable instead of developing genuine friendships

If I said this, I would instantly lose my job.

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This is one of the most foid-brained things I've read

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:poonerlove::poonerlove::poonerlove: https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735592410aGYBnw52zcuMFQ.webp

Why are so many of them like this "uwu i'm actually a good man unlike all those icky moids which I'm definately one of but also not"

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735593433xUjQFXAc0FgomQ.webp

me on the right btw

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Men are evil and trans men are men but trans men aren't evil.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735595237PMcPucZvHZ2BBQ.webp

Look at those dead fish eyes

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if only you knew how bad things really are

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Just looks like a cute butch.

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Elliott Page levels of Joy

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I found though, that when I went on testosterone and started passing as a man all the time, that people suddenly expected me to be nice to cisgender men and to be friends with them.

I sympathize with this. Pretending some knuckle dragging scrote has something interesting to say is beyond painful.

>:peperealization:Wow some sweaty scrotes kicked a ball around for a few hours? That's so unique and different from the other 500 games you've tried to tell me about. Please continue describing every last fascinating detail. Maybe if had set down the fork in highschool, you could've been paid to play a children's game too

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Wow some sweaty scrotes kicked a ball around for a few hours? That's so unique and different from the other 500 games you've tried to tell me about. Please continue describing every last fascinating detail.

>Yes you will hear about the football

>No I don't care if you're actually interested

:#gigachad2:

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>Man doesn't care about consent

Yet again a man comes to prove my point and is too fragile to even upmarsey. That's right, those are public, idiot.

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If you want an upmarsey you should make a worthy comment or post

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Sorry, male, but I know my worth. You're fragile masculinity makes you afraid of an assertive, confident woman like me

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Boring gimmick

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:marseyseethe:

Reflect on the fact that I can walk to a bar and come back with a hook up in 30 minutes if I want, while no woman will ever have s*x with you

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This bit is too hamfisted. It comes off immedietly comical rather than being subtle enough to reel in the wing cucks and them embarass them when they realize they took the bait. Do the emotional labor of being better, dollface.

:#marseyjoint:

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You are wildly overestimating dramatards

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Did you see that ludicrous display last night, b-word?

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:marseyagree:

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'I judge men very harshly, few of them are to my standards, and all I want to talk about is being trans. Why doesn't anyone want to be my friend? Surely they love me talking about all the b-words I want to frick.'

It's not just that she's treating friendships as requiring non-negotiable traits to be acceptable; it sounds very much like she's auditioning men to be her friend. But that's a large part of why she just comes off as an insufferable, narcissistic neurodivergent. Aka your average :marseytrain:.

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Pretty much the fricking main reason Trump won is fricking every r-slurred redditor's favorite 2008 phrase:

cognitive dissonance

You cant just tell people the fricking naked emperor's clothes are fricking just amazing and expect a fricking decent amount of people to comply when their natural reaction is to fricking literally exterminate an obvious virus.

Most people are fricking in no way concerned with "identifying" or conforming with their gender. This isnt something sane people think about. Pretending this is a fricking normal phase instead of a fricking woah puberty weird moment just cements how irrevocably broken these people are.

Its like watching a fricking dog trying to drive a fricking car.

Not only is fricking it too stupid and physically incable of performing the fricking task, there is fricking nothing it can do to be anything other than a fricking dangerous party trick.

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how in the world academia and "science" started taking this shit seriously, i will never understand.

really weird turn of events for this timeline, hope it corrects a bit.

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As a trans man, it's fascinating to study other men, and in particular the ways in which they maintain, or don't maintain, friendships.

TRANS MEN ARE REAL MEN

REAL MEN NEED TO STUDY ORHER REAL MEN TO LEARN HOW TO ACT LIKE A REAL MAN

REAL MEN HATE OTHER REAL MEN AND ASSIGN THEM ALL TO PARTICULAR STEREOTYPES

!transphobes

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Transmen are toxic masculinity encapsulated by frick ugly women with ____ issues

communism will win

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This is the most female-coded article imaginable. Specially when they list their requirements for a friend, it sounds like you'd find on a woman's dating profile. :marseysurejan:

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Is that really the whole piece? It feels like an intro to an proper article, they don't actually say anything about male friendships

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That's because they're incapable of being one of the guys. It's like the inverse of this:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735609334TjYga6MbdYAevA.webp

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As a trans man, it's fascinating to study other men

Yes that's what us men do. We're just so busy studying each other

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The :marseytrain: is shocked no one wants to talk about her mental illness or her fricked up kitty? Truly there are no people are naracisitic as :!marseytrain:s.

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Impossible to be around seems like an understatement.

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I am eternally perplexed by how some men cut others out of friendship circles

Oh really

Out of these 30% of men, some will not have the same hobbies as me, share the same interests, share the same educational background, or be in the same age bracket as me. Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.

:marseyunamused:

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>WHAT HAPPENED TO LE OLD DRAMA

>someone who does nothing

Every time

Snapshots:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2024/12/28/navigating-male-friendships-trans-man/:

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A man's guide to becoming best friends forever with other men:

1. Another dude walks up and says "hey wanna be best friends forever?"

2. Say ok

3. You are now best friends forever

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