Is Disney responsible for poor reception of Star Wars? No, its actually the fans fault

Skeleton Crew has the lowest viewing numbers of all the Star Wars shows, despite being better than pretty much all other shows not named Andor. And then speaking of Andor, it's viewership was similarly poor when compared to The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Kenobi, Boba Fett, and the rest of the "let's smash SW toys together" slop.

Thank goodness Andor was secured as 2 season out of the gate or we'd never get a Season 2. So that begs the question, why do you reject actually good Star Wars but the eat up the slop and complain about it after? Are you really only pleased with cheap nostalgia? Do you need a Skywalker shoved into every story? Must we be stuck in Empire v. Rebels for eternity?

You are enjoying it wrong, I bet this nerd uses the term Media Literacy.

The effect you're seeing is not a judgement on current content. This is the business equivalent of sons paying for the sins of their fathers and grandfathers.

Franchises like Star Wars or Marvel cannot forever rest on their laurels. There has to be an urgency to make the best content at every opportunity. The fall currently happening is not the result of just The Acolyte. Star Wars has been stumbling more often than not over the last few years and each stumble erodes the trust in the brand. You can't suddenly re-establish the trust in one move.

They have years of rebuilding ahead of them and hopefully the leadership is reassessing what works well and what doesn't.

I gave up on watching every Star Wars show long ago. And that premise for Skeleton Crew just didn't seem that interesting. Most of the recent Star Wars shows besides Andor have been mid at best so there just didn't seem to be any need to check this out.

You can really tell the Disney shill money has run out as this is upmarseyd

Star wars fans. Darn them.

They ruined Star Wars!

You Star Wars fans are a contentious people

YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!

I know its just reddit humor that gets repeated ad nauseum but its kind of nice seeing people make fun of OP.

Star wars fans. Darn them.

They ruined Star Wars!

In the eighties and nineties I was probably in the top 10 percent of SW fans. Slowly fell back the curve with the second and third trilogy.

The Disney puked out so much content I can barely remember all the shows and movies names. Part of the story is in cartoons, part in games. I just can't keep up with SW and life with 24 hours per day.

The original feeling has been diluted, some content is better than other but certainly different from what was back then. So yes nostalgia is certainly a factor for me.

Every time there's scarcity of what I love, I wait with anticipation and once the moment arrives I try to enjoy every second of it. That's not the case anymore with SW, so I just wait and if I eventually start noticing a lot of positive comments about something, I got it. Happened with Andor and Rogue one.

It kinda feels like you are ignoring the absolute plethora of Star Wars content released after the Originals and how many duds and downright awful stuff was in there.

People love to put on rose colored glasses when looking back, but it's really not been any different except for the existence of social media.

In some ways it was easier to keep up and no one expected you to read everything.

Why do you think the problem is members of the STAR WARS subreddit...? You're speaking to a group that will almost certainly have seen this show.

The problem is advertising and marketing. Which is a problem that isn't going to be remedied by your rent here.

Yeah OP is just preaching to the choir here

Theres a large percentage of people in this sub that openly admit they haven't watched anything since season 1 of Mando.

So? You can still be a Star Wars fan and not watch every bit of content released, maybe they just really like the movies or the first trilogy, etc. It seems divisive to act like the Disney+ shows are required watching to call yourself a Star Wars fan.

Must consume slop

I'm sorry, I didn't knew I was responsible of the acolyte, mando S3, Kenobi, bobf that ended up so bad my interest in the franchise wasn't as high.

Oh also I'm responsible for the lack of marketing this show had for the casual public.

I'm truly sorry, sw is failing because of us, not the bad management of the franchise by Lucasfilm.

All we're asking is for you to eat multiple shit sandwiches and say how good the bread is.

asking? No, OP and Disney are DEMANDING.

How dare you turn your back on these shit sandwiches, you're not a true S(hit)W(ich) fan

Nobody hates a ShitWich as much as a true SW fan.

Yeah I am burned out on Star Wars media. I really don't care if this one is great or whatever, I am done with Disney's shitty handling of the IP.

Sorry guys, we are responsible for all of this

My thoughts exactly. I used to read all the books, comics, listen to the audio dramas…

Now I just don't care anymore.

After the awful string of BOBF-Kenobi-Mando season 3-acolyte (excluding bad batch, andor, and some of the tales series), I was ready to put down live action Star Wars for a bit. The word of mouth was so good from my irl friends, especially from my friends who've really soured in the franchise, that I was pleasantly surprised when the kid-centered suburban space goonies show was thoroughly entertaining. Disney did this to Lucasfilm through poor management, there's no reason Skelton crew should be as good as it is when they phoned in their cash cow of modern Star Wars of Mando season 3

Why is everyone saying this. Specifically this. What about Ahsoka? Are you leaving it out bc you liked it or bc it's forgettable.

As far as I'm concerned the only thing wrong so far was the Acolyte. If you removed Leslie, Amanda, and all them space witches. And Had Qimir as the villain with Plageus as his master that would have been amazing.

Andor A+ Bad Batch A+ BoBF B+ Kenobi B Mando S3 B- Ahsoka B- Acolyte D

I'd call that oversaturated. Regardless of the quality. If these covered 8 to 10 years we wouldn't be complaining as much. We have too much frame of reference

Lmao most of what you listed is a C at best, cmon dude

For a bunch of turbo nerds who talk about Star Wars on Reddit they are surprisingly sane.

You know blaming the people not watching the show is probably not going to convince them to watch the show.

What are they going to do, not watch the show? j/k

Seriously though, Disney has done a pretty terrible job of promoting things lately. Whatever the current Sar Wars/MCU show is, should always be front and center on Disney+. I already know about it and it's still annoying to have to tab through 4-5 pages of other shows before I can find it.

Even on the top of the page where it scrolls they always have skeleton crew as the 4th or 5th tab. The finale was the only time they had it up front.

Had to ruin that warm fuzzy feeling I was having with that j/k

Poor Star Wars is responsible for me not watching Skeleton Crew.

Frick outta here with this bullshittery.

Op is literally the consume product meme

You realize the "slop" coming before the "good shows" is probably why the good shows didn't get much viewership, right?

Disney produced so much "slop" that people got tired of it and didn't bother to watch the newer stuff. The same thing happened with the MCU.

You say that, but the next time some slop with a flashy lightsaber or a recognizable character comes out people are going to go watch it.

I mean, Acolyte's viewership was also dismal (just not quite as bad).

The only way to save Star Wars is for Disney's projects to all flop long enough for them to put everything on pause and take a long, hard, self-evaluation. Even making mediocre shows, which would be an improvement, will not bring the disillusioned fans back.

Fair point at least with the final numbers it was very small. I'm not arguing against the idea that the TV show content has not been very good. It's certainly hard to motivate people to watch the good stuff and encourage Disney to keep making more of it when there is a lot of cheap and bad stuff, too. It does seem the fan base gets divided. I prefer more Andor-like stuff, but a fair amount of people don't want "adult Star Wars" or Star Wars without lightsabers. I would love it if the good shows got rewarded while the mediocre shows didn't, but outside of some shows most people seem very divided on reception.

Yes, at the cost of the long-term future of the franchise. Fewer and fewer people will see it each time some slop like this comes out, and eventually no matter how many original characters or fancy graphics or space battles will ever fix it.

Jfc could you come off anymore patronizing? Will this sub ever handle the fact that people have different interests? I tried Skeleton Crew and just couldn't get into it. Its as simple as that.

Who did? It's a children's show made for children to watch without parents, so there isn't even any cheeky humor you'd expect of a family watch show.

Also Disney are barely putting any money into advertising it, since they have a bias against spending money on advertising original content.

Now that the word r-slur is coming back into vogue, I hope calling OP a comes back. Also I swear we had a marsey that was just a pile of brown sticks with the marsey face on it.

Attacking people and calling the things they liked "slop" is not going to get them to come around to your side.

Like it or not, the majority of star wars fans like action and light saber battles. Disney's streaming model is flawed, it only counts viewership and not audience reception. It's not possible to make back their budgets when we are already paying a monthly fee to get everything. That isn't our fault, it's theirs. An obscure show set in the Star Wars universe is not going to pull the number of eyeballs a show about Obi-Wan Kenobi is, and it's dumb to expect it to. Some of this stuff needs to be allowed to be small and build a fanbase of dedicated fans, rather than everything needing to have an unsustainable amount of views.

As soon as streaming services figure out how to charge us for "premium" content it'll be game over for getting the entire library for one price.

If that was profitable they's have already done it

Exactly, I don't care how good something ends up being I'm not jumping through multiple paywalls to access it.

Maybe they can build places where we can gather and watch the premium content on a giant screen. They could sell us popcorn and soda and make even more money on concessions.

I don't think Orange Man could cure redditors of not being funny, but he does seem to be curing them of sucking off slop.

Poor quality Star Wars fims and oversaturation of low quality Star Wars shows is the reason for low viewership. Movies need to be great to pull the masses in and retain existing fanbase and the shows need to be consistently high quality with more time between them.

They need to pull back for a little while and come back strong.

SW fatigue is very real, we are at the stage where people like me who would normally tune in are overwhelmed with a sense of apathy. Right now, my interest is the lowest it's ever been

There is no coming back from the sequel trilogy. No matter what they do, Luke will still die a pathetic hermit who used too much of the force to create a hologram

The Last Jedi is good, and Luke's arc is good.

We're just going to keep pretending that a guy in a religion of peace using such immense power to project himself across space to kick someone's butt without actually resorting to violence is bad, I guess.

Or that, after learning all about this religion of peace, got disillusioned with it after learning how shitty and hypocritical the Jedi were is bad, I guess.

Religion of Peace? I don't remember him driving a truck through a Christmas Market.

No. Star Wars is responsible for poor Star Wars

People are starting to tap out. Can't blame anyone but Disney.

No it's your fault for not consuming the slop!

Disney is responsible for poor Star Wars. I can only imagine how much more money they'd be making if they actually handled it properly from the beginning.

So going by your post title, anyone who did not watch the very latest Star Wars show are responsible for the poor performance of previous Star Wars shows; how does that make any sense whatsoever...?

I really don't get the logic. Shouldn't it be the studio's responsibility to get fans interested in the project?

Can't wait for the "get mad at the fans" meta to be retired.

Hey don't you want to watch book of boba Fett season 4 to see what happened to the glorf plotline in the acolyte season 2 featuring a character from the mandalorian season 4 who just entered in from Ashoka season 1??? Wait why are you running away I didn't explain how this really ties in to Reys childhood!

Disney fricked up when the Star Wars fans who regularly post to a star wars subreddit are making fun of them.

Really there isn't much drama, I just wanted to make fun of the OP for being the embodiment of