Skeleton Crew has the lowest viewing numbers of all the Star Wars shows, despite being better than pretty much all other shows not named Andor. And then speaking of Andor, it's viewership was similarly poor when compared to The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Kenobi, Boba Fett, and the rest of the "let's smash SW toys together" slop.
Thank goodness Andor was secured as 2 season out of the gate or we'd never get a Season 2. So that begs the question, why do you reject actually good Star Wars but the eat up the slop and complain about it after? Are you really only pleased with cheap nostalgia? Do you need a Skywalker shoved into every story? Must we be stuck in Empire v. Rebels for eternity?
You are enjoying it wrong, I bet this nerd uses the term Media Literacy.
Franchises like Star Wars or Marvel cannot forever rest on their laurels. There has to be an urgency to make the best content at every opportunity. The fall currently happening is not the result of just The Acolyte. Star Wars has been stumbling more often than not over the last few years and each stumble erodes the trust in the brand. You can't suddenly re-establish the trust in one move.
They have years of rebuilding ahead of them and hopefully the leadership is reassessing what works well and what doesn't.
I gave up on watching every Star Wars show long ago. And that premise for Skeleton Crew just didn't seem that interesting. Most of the recent Star Wars shows besides Andor have been mid at best so there just didn't seem to be any need to check this out.
You can really tell the Disney shill money has run out as this is upmarseyd
They ruined Star Wars!
You Star Wars fans are a contentious people
YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!
I know its just reddit humor that gets repeated ad nauseum but its kind of nice seeing people make fun of OP.
They ruined Star Wars!
In the eighties and nineties I was probably in the top 10 percent of SW fans. Slowly fell back the curve with the second and third trilogy.
The Disney puked out so much content I can barely remember all the shows and movies names. Part of the story is in cartoons, part in games. I just can't keep up with SW and life with 24 hours per day.
The original feeling has been diluted, some content is better than other but certainly different from what was back then. So yes nostalgia is certainly a factor for me.
Every time there's scarcity of what I love, I wait with anticipation and once the moment arrives I try to enjoy every second of it. That's not the case anymore with SW, so I just wait and if I eventually start noticing a lot of positive comments about something, I got it. Happened with Andor and Rogue one.
It kinda feels like you are ignoring the absolute plethora of Star Wars content released after the Originals and how many duds and downright awful stuff was in there.
People love to put on rose colored glasses when looking back, but it's really not been any different except for the existence of social media.
In some ways it was easier to keep up and no one expected you to read everything.
The problem is advertising and marketing. Which is a problem that isn't going to be remedied by your rent here.
Yeah OP is just preaching to the choir here
Theres a large percentage of people in this sub that openly admit they haven't watched anything since season 1 of Mando.
So? You can still be a Star Wars fan and not watch every bit of content released, maybe they just really like the movies or the first trilogy, etc. It seems divisive to act like the Disney+ shows are required watching to call yourself a Star Wars fan.
Must consume slop
Oh also I'm responsible for the lack of marketing this show had for the casual public.
I'm truly sorry, sw is failing because of us, not the bad management of the franchise by Lucasfilm.
All we're asking is for you to eat multiple shit sandwiches and say how good the bread is.
asking? No, OP and Disney are DEMANDING.
How dare you turn your back on these shit sandwiches, you're not a true S(hit)W(ich) fan
Nobody hates a ShitWich as much as a true SW fan.
Yeah I am burned out on Star Wars media. I really don't care if this one is great or whatever, I am done with Disney's shitty handling of the IP.
Sorry guys, we are responsible for all of this
My thoughts exactly. I used to read all the books, comics, listen to the audio dramas…
Now I just don't care anymore.
After the awful string of BOBF-Kenobi-Mando season 3-acolyte (excluding bad batch, andor, and some of the tales series), I was ready to put down live action Star Wars for a bit. The word of mouth was so good from my irl friends, especially from my friends who've really soured in the franchise, that I was pleasantly surprised when the kid-centered suburban space goonies show was thoroughly entertaining. Disney did this to Lucasfilm through poor management, there's no reason Skelton crew should be as good as it is when they phoned in their cash cow of modern Star Wars of Mando season 3
Why is everyone saying this. Specifically this. What about Ahsoka? Are you leaving it out bc you liked it or bc it's forgettable.
As far as I'm concerned the only thing wrong so far was the Acolyte. If you removed Leslie, Amanda, and all them space witches. And Had Qimir as the villain with Plageus as his master that would have been amazing.
Andor A+ Bad Batch A+ BoBF B+ Kenobi B Mando S3 B- Ahsoka B- Acolyte D
I'd call that oversaturated. Regardless of the quality. If these covered 8 to 10 years we wouldn't be complaining as much. We have too much frame of reference
Lmao most of what you listed is a C at best, cmon dude
For a bunch of turbo nerds who talk about Star Wars on Reddit they are surprisingly sane.
What are they going to do, not watch the show? j/k
Seriously though, Disney has done a pretty terrible job of promoting things lately. Whatever the current Sar Wars/MCU show is, should always be front and center on Disney+. I already know about it and it's still annoying to have to tab through 4-5 pages of other shows before I can find it.
Even on the top of the page where it scrolls they always have skeleton crew as the 4th or 5th tab. The finale was the only time they had it up front.
Had to ruin that warm fuzzy feeling I was having with that j/k
Poor Star Wars is responsible for me not watching Skeleton Crew.
Frick outta here with this bullshittery.
Op is literally the consume product meme
Disney produced so much "slop" that people got tired of it and didn't bother to watch the newer stuff. The same thing happened with the MCU.
You say that, but the next time some slop with a flashy lightsaber or a recognizable character comes out people are going to go watch it.
I mean, Acolyte's viewership was also dismal (just not quite as bad).
The only way to save Star Wars is for Disney's projects to all flop long enough for them to put everything on pause and take a long, hard, self-evaluation. Even making mediocre shows, which would be an improvement, will not bring the disillusioned fans back.
Fair point at least with the final numbers it was very small. I'm not arguing against the idea that the TV show content has not been very good. It's certainly hard to motivate people to watch the good stuff and encourage Disney to keep making more of it when there is a lot of cheap and bad stuff, too. It does seem the fan base gets divided. I prefer more Andor-like stuff, but a fair amount of people don't want "adult Star Wars" or Star Wars without lightsabers. I would love it if the good shows got rewarded while the mediocre shows didn't, but outside of some shows most people seem very divided on reception.
Yes, at the cost of the long-term future of the franchise. Fewer and fewer people will see it each time some slop like this comes out, and eventually no matter how many original characters or fancy graphics or space battles will ever fix it.
Who did? It's a children's show made for children to watch without parents, so there isn't even any cheeky humor you'd expect of a family watch show.
Also Disney are barely putting any money into advertising it, since they have a bias against spending money on advertising original content.
Now that the word r-slur is coming back into vogue, I hope calling OP a 
comes back. Also I swear we had a marsey that was just a pile of brown sticks with the marsey face on it.
Like it or not, the majority of star wars fans like action and light saber battles. Disney's streaming model is flawed, it only counts viewership and not audience reception. It's not possible to make back their budgets when we are already paying a monthly fee to get everything. That isn't our fault, it's theirs. An obscure show set in the Star Wars universe is not going to pull the number of eyeballs a show about Obi-Wan Kenobi is, and it's dumb to expect it to. Some of this stuff needs to be allowed to be small and build a fanbase of dedicated fans, rather than everything needing to have an unsustainable amount of views.
As soon as streaming services figure out how to charge us for "premium" content it'll be game over for getting the entire library for one price.
If that was profitable they's have already done it
Exactly, I don't care how good something ends up being I'm not jumping through multiple paywalls to access it.
Maybe they can build places where we can gather and watch the premium content on a giant screen. They could sell us popcorn and soda and make even more money on concessions.
I don't think Orange Man could cure redditors of not being funny, but he does seem to be curing them of sucking off slop.
Poor quality Star Wars fims and oversaturation of low quality Star Wars shows is the reason for low viewership. Movies need to be great to pull the masses in and retain existing fanbase and the shows need to be consistently high quality with more time between them.
They need to pull back for a little while and come back strong.
SW fatigue is very real, we are at the stage where people like me who would normally tune in are overwhelmed with a sense of apathy. Right now, my interest is the lowest it's ever been
There is no coming back from the sequel trilogy. No matter what they do, Luke will still die a pathetic hermit who used too much of the force to create a hologram
The Last Jedi is good, and Luke's arc is good.
We're just going to keep pretending that a guy in a religion of peace using such immense power to project himself across space to kick someone's butt without actually resorting to violence is bad, I guess.
Or that, after learning all about this religion of peace, got disillusioned with it after learning how shitty and hypocritical the Jedi were is bad, I guess.
Religion of Peace? I don't remember him driving a truck through a Christmas Market. 
People are starting to tap out. Can't blame anyone but Disney.
No it's your fault for not consuming the slop!
Disney is responsible for poor Star Wars. I can only imagine how much more money they'd be making if they actually handled it properly from the beginning.
I really don't get the logic. Shouldn't it be the studio's responsibility to get fans interested in the project?
Can't wait for the "get mad at the fans" meta to be retired.
Hey don't you want to watch book of boba Fett season 4 to see what happened to the glorf plotline in the acolyte season 2 featuring a character from the mandalorian season 4 who just entered in from Ashoka season 1??? Wait why are you running away I didn't explain how this really ties in to Reys childhood!
Disney fricked up when the Star Wars fans who regularly post to a star wars subreddit are making fun of them.
Really there isn't much drama, I just wanted to make fun of the OP for being the embodiment of
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Children like flashy colored lights in their kids movies?
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Star Slop should be made for manchildren instead of actual children.
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It's made for independent girlbosses and strong feminists...
ie people who don't like this shit.
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Yes, that is what the title of the post implies.
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Star Wars mostly relies on nostalgia so when that spell is broken then it's over. For me, I saw The Force Awakens, it was the biggest pile of shit I'd ever seen and it also overwrote the stuff I remembered from the old movies, and that was that.
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Star wars episode 1 was pretty bad. I remember enjoying some of the toys and hype but really was on cusp of getting over star wars fandom being 14 at the time.
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Episode 4 is shit. Seminal, and insane effects, and obviously it spawned one trillion dollars. But shit.
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At least it had a pretty stacked cast. Ewan McGregor was the best part of those movies by a mile
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Good post.
This is fundamentally against the spirit of art. Good stories END. Even the "discerning" fans and the anti-woke industry are slaves to the broader pattern of endless pacifying purgatorial content gruel. Kill Star Wars. !writecel
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I mean, Loki was still pretty good and people liked to watch S1 and S2.
So I don't think "superhero fatigue" is a thing, the same way "western fatigue" was never a thing.
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Ehhh sure but I think one of the issues with capeshit/starshit is that they keep reusing the same characters over and over. At least the various Westerns had their own characters (sure lots of common tropes but still different characters). I firmly believe the various Westerns were more distinct than modern Marvelslop movies.
I don't want to see more Iron Man or whatever the frick. And I really don't like how stupidly interconnected they all are. "haha this is a funny joke if you watched Thor 5: Fricking on the Bifrost"
imo a trilogy is already REALLY stretching it, and the Marvel movies are like a 30-movie series. Plus all the TV shows (gotta be like 20 of the darned things at this point).
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Whether audiences are fatigued is irrelevant. You can't tell a good story if every story is just an ad for the next story. And Return of the Jedi doesn't really work if the Empire comes back, all the Jedi are killed off again, and Palpatine is still alive. And while I haven't seen Loki, I also imagine that Marvel stories will continue to deteriorate as the scale gets higher and higher. If Thanos (a character who killed half the universe) was small potatoes compared to le multiverse saga, stories will continue to become detached from actual human stakes. This is what I mean when I say stories need endings. The MCU has a meta story, and the decision to make it endless means endless escalation into meaningless nonsense.
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You can still tell good stories with endings within that same world (or would """universe""") be a better term. They can and have rarely, but that's the exception. They mostly don't tell good stories, hope just a little juicing nostalgia from older things gets butts in seats, and then fanboys get mad that every single slop product isn't praised and showered with money for being the Next Product™ by Big Company TM™.
Or they could just make a new thing and not bother with a story and blame people for not showing up to support the new thing after people figure out that sucks too. Whatever keeps the jobs of the middle management blamers who always blame the people who didn't just mindlessly spend money on product.
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It's a setting, not a story
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why do they have to end? Is there math that determines this.
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Me finding the differential equation to maximise slop output
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There is some truth to what the first comment says. There are Star Wars fand who's criticisms of Andor boiled down to "no Jedi" "no lightsabers".
They liked the very superficial aspects of Star Wars and were pumping numbers of shows about "the thing you know". Although this was really just Andor's problem, Skeleton Crew was marketed to children and came after Disney exposed our planet to the Acolyte, killing all remaining Star Wars fans.
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They were right to do so, without jedi and lightsabers star wars has literally nothing. It's like making a new Terminator movie that's just an office romance about normal people in a modern city and then bitching that "terminator fans just refuse to like anything unless it has terminators in it"
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Andor is so much better than literally any other starslop though. Like by orders of magnitude.
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Nice opinion, which youtuber did you get it from?
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Notorious opinion generator known as my eyeballs.
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I'm so sorry, I was a victim of targeted ads when I wrote that comment I did not mean to say that I'm so sorry, I'm trying to get help, trying to find myself.
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People who want the quality won't look to franchiseslop while the franchiseslop enjoyers rarely want quality.
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Having a conflict between Empire and Rebels without Jedi is an interesting concept, that could work and is an extension of what we saw before rather than complete departure though.
I admit that the Force seems to be intrensic to what Star Wars is, but Jedi and Lightsabers are not the only ways of playing into fantasy in space setting.
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At that point it's just a generic spaceslop movie. The setting and worldbuilding of Star Wars, for all that its fans cope otherwise, is a bland cardboard screen over which guys can fight with laser swords. It has literally nothing to offer that wouldn't be done better as new original property
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Id honestly rather like a contained story of a galactic conflict that is part of a bigger universe so we can follow various fronts like WW2.
The reason starwars fans beg for it is because we HAD it at one point. In the old EU it was the empire collapses into like a hundred smaller states and the galaxy is a free for all for about 20 years.
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You are star-wars poisoned because what you are asking for would always be better if it wasn't shackled to a franchise that isn't built for it. What you want isn't a star wars movie
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at that point you could call it something else, and name the factions something else
Then you could get artsy post-hipsters to watch it (they hate brand shit), and all
burned on star wars (they watch every new sci fi)
The tropes of the star wars conflict is so established you don't have to explain it in your semi parody show
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Synder tried that for his space shit he originally wanted as a Star Wars movie, it sucked hard.
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tbh it was snyder. i don't think you can blame that on the genre.
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A lot of people watched it on Netflix tho... and Snyder is making more rebel moons
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There's only two good Terminator films just like there's only two good Star Wars films.
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Might as well chuck in as many jedi and lightsabers and glup shittos as possible, because if you're not here to churn out memberberry slop, why are you working on Star Wars in the year of our lord 2025? Cue Roger Ebert's eternally relevant nerd trvthnvke:
Whatever artistic/storytelling merit SW originally had is done. It's finished. These modern shows exist purely to cater to nerds who've adopted Being A Star Wars Fan as their personality.
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Star Wars IS light sabers and war. And the ONLY good star wars content EVER was Rogue One.
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I mean, the franchise has been going on for 25 years now and it's never been more than lightsabers and jedi...
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Star Wars is nothing without jedi and lightsabers. That's literally all it is.
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If we belived them just little more. They would deliver kino of highest kind
Trust the plan
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What if original star wars... But everyone was black and woman and obese? Again.
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Idk but I'm pretty sure the majority of people around the world are still not really interested in spaceships and aliens and robots. Considering shows and movies with spaceships and aliens and robots cost a lot to make I'd say there's a problem with the media companies making pata negra when everybody said they wanted bacon then being surprised when nobody buys it.
Why not watch old episodes of Banshee?
Banshee was good!
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I hope we continue getting more Star Wars slop so I have more Red Letter Media to watch.
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That's even worse
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I like watching the alcoholic Minnesotans get upset at bad movies
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if there's any single person outside of Lucas film or Disney to blame for Star wars quality it's those guys though
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As someone who has watched most of the shows as they came out but skipped Skeleton Crew (so far), it's because it was marketed as a kids' (or just "family friendly?") show and looked utterly generic from the trailers. If it's not slop, great, but thanks to Disney the presumption is that it is slop until word of mouth gets around that it's not, and that can take several weeks to happen. I've started hearing that Skeleton Crew is good, but I'm still not sure why people think this.
So yes, please don't yell at me for failing to continue to faithfully consoom with requisite haste. Disney is still at fault here. It's also their fault if they rely too much in their analytics on initial viewership numbers and don't account for a long tail of viewership that could come from positive word of mouth.
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I've tried to watch enough Star Wars slop that Star Wars fans insisted was good that I no longer trust Star Wars fan on anything.
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This one?
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No it was literally a pile of sticks. I guess I should make one after work.
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I know zero people who even watch Star Wars in general.
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"baby yoda" from The Mandolorian hit grandmothers like despicable me
thousands and thousands of grandkids don't know why they got a weird goblin doll for Christmas
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The kids love star wars right? They'll love this thing!
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I knew tons of people excited about The Delorian when it released and I've never had a single person bring up Star Wars since then
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Now that you mention it I noticed that too. My mom loved Baby Yoda though I am pretty sure has never watched Star Wars once in her life.
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Skeleton crew looked interesting until I saw its focus is on a bunch of live action kids and I was like nah. Nobody likes having kids in their scifi movies, not even kids. Plinkette made that pretty clear that no kid relates to Anakin, they want to be someone like Han or Luke or Leia.
If it was a kid focused show that was a cartoon it can work. Problem is they're trying to replicate the Mandalorian/Andor formula but with kids and it doesn't work. The kids are going to have plot armor, nothing can be taken serious, if nothing is taken serious in what is supposedly a serious themed show nobody is going to watch it.
Star Wars universe is rich enough you can easily have a long running "The Expanse" esq series thats better than the expanse.
How the frick the theater kids running Disney not realize this yet idk.
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WHY!? I HATE GROWING UP AND DOING SO MUCH ADULTING! I JUST WANT TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES AND WATCH MOVIES ALL DAY ALL THE TIME ITS NOT FAIR I DIDNT ASK TO BE BORN TO WORK!
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Star Wars Lord of the Flies could be interesting.
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If it was kids suffering through an uncaring imperial l bureaucracy it might be interesting
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I play the Star Wars Unlimited Trading Card Game (not even a huge fan of the IP but it's a fun game) and when I go to local events the people who show up for Star Wars are friendly skinny soys and the ones there for other games are obese losers. Star Wars is just too cool and lacking in libertarianism to attract true redditors, even if it is slop for children
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More entertainment
has been had of star wars fans seething 
than star wars itself at this point.
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The issue is clearly Disney's marketing team as this is literally the first time I have heard about this.
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Skeleton Crew is just Goonies in space.
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!gonks did anyone else know Skeleton Crew was a show? I thought it was a documentary about making a Star Wars rollercoaster or something
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I knew about it for a while but I wasn't going to ever watch a kids show lol.
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I won't give any more Star Wars a chance
every Disney IP is stale at this point but they are particularly clueless about what to do with SW.
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Star wars is lame and I'm glad I've literally never watched a single one
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skeleton crew isn't bad but its obviously a kids show
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Disney seemed to think they could just remix the EU dedication into a wider audience. It does seem like there should have been SOME way to do something like it, since, despite everything bad we can say about the prequels, Lucas successfully brainwashed Millennials after getting Gen X the first go round. Allegedly that clone wars cartoon was doing well when it came out too, so they probably thought Gen Z already had some roots, not sure the original manchild ratio on those views though.
What could they have actually done to get star wars geared up for CONSOOM singularity that it people thought it could be?
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A bad string of sequels will turn you off the franchise
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No one watched Andor when it came out because no one knew or cared who the main character was.
FFS just do the Han Solo trilogy from the extended universe as a noir limited series, have it end with him walking into the cantina where he meets Luke in the first movie, and don't make it black and gay. This really isn't that hard.
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You know the side character from the movie with characters no one remembers but internet losers weirdly love because of a space battle and Darth Vader? He's back!
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Are you trying to pretend people don't know who Harrison Ford is and the main characters he played in his biggest movies?
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No I am agreeing with you about Andor.
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Stopped there, opinion disregarded.
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Snapshots:
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The effect you're seeing is not a judgement on current content. This is the business equivalent of sons paying for the sins of their fathers and grandfathers.:
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Star wars fans. Darn them.:
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Why do you think the problem is members of the STAR WARS subreddit...? You're speaking to a group that will almost certainly have seen this show.:
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I'm sorry, I didn't knew I was responsible of the acolyte, mando S3, Kenobi, bobf that ended up so bad my interest in the franchise wasn't as high.:
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You know blaming the people not watching the show is probably not going to convince them to watch the show.:
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Poor Star Wars is responsible for me not watching Skeleton Crew.:
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You realize the "slop" coming before the "good shows" is probably why the good shows didn't get much viewership, right?:
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Jfc could you come off anymore patronizing? Will this sub ever handle the fact that people have different interests? I tried Skeleton Crew and just couldn't get into it. Its as simple as that.:
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Attacking people and calling the things they liked "slop" is not going to get them to come around to your side.:
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