yes - 104 bets
no - 125 bets
please stop posting - 6 bets
I will give a SIX HUNDRED (600) marseydollar bounty to the first person who sends me the inevitable news article.
If nobody has sent me the article within a month, I will spend SEVEN (7) minutes searching for the article on Google news. If I do not find it then, the bet resolves NO.
!remindme 1 month "site:nytimes suicide"
!bets !goomble !goomblers !goombling !project2025
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the government has no authority to define something like this lol, literally performative nonsense.
Even this EO is worded in a nonsensical way, it's like tailor made to pander to the least educated people in society.
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That won't stop s from being upset, even though they identify as genders that are not "banned".
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i mean most rational people should be upset lol, this is a completely r-slurred EO they wasted their time even drafting - just like the wokes couldn't strongarm society into accepting their cultural extremism, neither can the rightoids.
Some of the moral issues here don't even make any sense - one can agree for example, that simply declaring yourself a woman should not get you sent to a female prison, that's a rational stance to hold and most people probably agree with that outside of the most extreme of wokies.
where it becomes more nuanced is what exactly are we to do in the case of an actual long-time trans woman that presents and identifies as a woman? should we send them to a male prison? can the government guarantee their safety? No shot they can.
so what are we deciding here? some trans woman convicted of some random crime should be sent to a male prison to be r*ped and murdered?
as is the case with most rightoid positions, they have a very surface level understanding of an issue and apply a very surface level solution to whatever problem they believe exists. I've been trying to explain for ages why rightoids are way more dangerous than leftoids - with leftoids their most absurd positions aren't taken seriously and are never an actual threat. with absurd rightoid positions through the power of performative common sense face less resistance from the median voter.
As rational people we can agree that some guy shouldn't be allowed to declare himself a woman after being arrested to be sent to a softer prison - but you're never gonna convince me we should be sending actual trans women to male prisons under the guise of protecting women or whatever, it's a cruel and laughable position to hold, and most of society would probably agree if they had a more nuanced understanding of the topic.
if rightoid performative common sense won out historically we'd still have lead in our gas and we'd still be using asbestos.
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Do they still have their peepee? If so, they go to men's prison. Not that difficult to solve.
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And when you end up with a ton of dead trans women in prison because you decided to hold a black and white view of the subject?
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Man and woman is as black and white as you can get lmao
When have you become such an r-slured shitlib?
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it's that you're an extremist incapable of nuance.
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You're extremely r-slurred.
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Biologists generally agree there is a difference between biological s*x and gender bud.
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The problem there is that American prisons don't protect their prisoners. A trans woman is no different than a small, weak or feminine male-identifying man in terms of being at risk of cruelty and harm. The ancient American phrase "do you know what they do to boys like you in prison?" is an example of this. Men who wear dresses aren't any more or less deserving of protection than any other man.
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What did all the trans women do in prisons before 2018?
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I care more about women getting r*ped by intact males in women's prison than the mentally ill s tbh.
We don't give flaming homosexuals special privileges even though they're more likely to get r*ped in a men's prison.
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A homosexual male can pass as straight, a trans woman after enough time will be an open target.
Like you guys are really dumb on this issue, youd do well to not hids your poorly thought out arguments behind a "what about the womenz" defense.
You dont care about women, nothing you believe about this topic is based on women.
Just like it wasnt very convincing when rightoids tried to hide their bad arguments behind protecting the gays, it isnt that convincing here.
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K, put them in PC with the cops and the chomos (but I repeat myself )
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You're r-slurred.
Go back to stocking shelves.
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Because you arent a serious person.
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Wait I thought you meant them killing themselves because you wouldn't valiate them or whatever. Fear of them being killed by other prisoners is an even more r-slurred reason to send them to a woman's prison.
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We send effeminate gays to men's prison as well, no?
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No, you see, an effeminate bottom can just pretend to be straight.
Prisoners would never be able to sniff out that someone like pre-transition Dylan Mulvaney was a massive cute twink.
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True. Unlike the average troid, whose massive 5 o'clock shadow and petite 6"5 linebacker physique just screams "woman"
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Total death
No trans women are women
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A better standard is probably just an HRT requirement that continues into prison and is verified with blood tests.
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Lop it off or send them to men's prison.
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lop it off AND send them to men's prison.
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wow, thats a lot of words for defending s lol
or so i believe, i didnt actually read it
!transphobes
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Pizza is like the opposite of a TERF, it's great
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Foid exclusionary radical transgenderist
FERT
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Ok bro
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@Grue you've got (serious) competition
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You could have done crack instead of this shit
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for once I agree with you, lpb!
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What abject nonsense. You claim everyone knows not to send a dude to female prisons, yet that is 100% what is happening. Do you not get news in Kroger or what?
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Frick up
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One, everyone gets r*ped in male prison, not just transwomen. Two transwomen get sent to prison for sexual assault way more than any other group and there have been way too many instances of transwomen raping cis women in women's prison.
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You pays your money, you takes your choice.
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Never stopped you
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Got his mother frickin butt!
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Wow so you're saying Trump did something as r-slurred as the Pelosi kneel on day 1? What a cute twink
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Defining what a woman is by law is performative nonsense, but putting tampons in male bathrooms and letting dudes in dresses play female sports is kino progress, folx.
Oh and by the way, saying this in Europe will get you arrested. Performative nonsense, though.
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keep whacking that strawman lil bro. its ok ur woke president is a giga cute twink
good thing trump is president of europe then. lil bro wants to be oppressed so bad.
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You know the internet is supposed to be fun right
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He takes it very seriously and is very unironically r-slurred about it
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Epstein says what?
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Fishing for another ban?
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says the wingcuck
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Neoliberalism is cringe and your movement is dead.
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cry more
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Who gets a say? Wikipedia editors?
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you know how wokies couldn't redefine racism in the public eye?
That's how effective the rightoids are going to be here.
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Are you implying that woketards have been successful in defining woman for s sake in the public eye? From what I've seen it's the complete opposite and reason for their downfall
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No one defines what it means, but the woketard definition happens to be much closer aligned to reality than this delusional r*ghtoid cope. Whether u are a woman depends mostly on the way u look and act (which tbf lots of trains are failing spectacularly), not ur "biology"
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I really don't think most people believe that. For all the work trans activists have done, most random people even in America would still consider a passing trans woman to be a man if they found out they were assigned male at birth
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People believe lots of things that aren't true They assign gender to others without knowing what they were assigned at birth, so it clearly doesn't matter.
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Gender is a social construct so the only "truth" of gender is whatever society defines it as. I'll accept that trans women are women in society if I believed a majority of modern men would have zero qualms finding out that a woman they just fricked was secretly trans, but I don't believe that is yet the case
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And society considers passing trans women w*men in like 99.99% of situations, so they are, whether people say "actually a woman HAS to have XX chromosomes" or not
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No one gets assigned a gender,
If you got a peepee, you're a boy, if not, girl. Simple as.
The term gender was invented by a libertarian who sexually experimented with kids who then killed themselves as adults
STFU
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Room temp IQ take lol
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If that were true then you'd never be able to have s*x, because you only get to see your prospective partner's genitalia after you did the flirting and courting, and obviously you won't flirt with someone who might have a peepee.
... Shiggy diggy or else this explains why you've never had s*x.
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What if it's half way in between
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You can't change your s*x and gender is unfalsifiable and doesn't exist.
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Wtf is that even supposed to mean lol obviously gender exists
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You literally just said words are what everyone believes they are quit being a dumbass
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Wrong kind of belief. R*ghtoids say "WOMAN MEANS HAVING XX CHROMOSOMES" but then consider people women without karyotyping them.
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!chuds tomboys aren't women
!chuds ugly black women aren't women
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Black females have never been women.
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Which is more of a woman:
Black woman
Bardfinn
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There do exist thin/whitish black women. So on average, a black woman is more of a woman than bardy boy.
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That's pretty sexist dog. Women don't have to be feminine.
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I disagree, they've been pretty successful. Platforms like reddit don't enforce racism against whites because you can't be racist against them. It might not be agreed upon by the masses but there's enough sway and people who buy into it
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Claiming Reddit reflects public opinion in reality kinda shows how r-slurred you are.
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Reddit was just an example of a major tech company pushing something like that but the idea you can't be racist against whites goes well beyond reddit
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They have been successful at enforcing their views in niche communities, but there's definitely a risk that these viewpoints have all been top-down and aren't actually followed by most people, or possibly even are resented by most people. If that's the case then there's a decent chance that a vibe shift could cause it all to tumble down.
If everyone was just biting down on their true feelings out of fear, but then they see some people speak out against it and not get punished, it could cause a domino effect.
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Rightoids can at least agree on a single definition to spread. Wokies can't do shit because each person has their own unique definition they want to push.
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The trans community tried to redefine women to mean "person who wants to be treated like a woman by society" and could only maintain that definition through social pressure in their own spaces and using official entities to punish vocal dissenters. The trans movement to punish any women who felt uncomfortable around very neurodivergent men who wanted to perv on them was the undoing of democrats.
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Are rightoids trying to redefine what a woman is now? Bro you are off the wagon big time.
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there's no war in Russia
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he did do the ones about inflation and national defense before he did this one
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Don't they have the ability to legally define it with it being a term utilized in many laws/budgets?
!lawyers
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I was under the impression that:
Legislation is welcome to define terms for the purpose of the legislation itself.
More often, courts end up defining terms as part of case law.
It would be a crisis of separation of powers if an EO could redefine terms arbitrarily.
I'm not a lawyer, though.
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That's a fair point if executive orders didn't make legislation at this point
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There are many places where the government has to interpret laws that reference s*x/gender, this is guidance for how they will do it
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Defining woman is the performative nonsense, lmaooooooo
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The passport thing has a very real impact
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Who does?
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Bro, what really is a woman, man?
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A vagina-haver.
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Your stragottry is jumping the shark
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Brb babe, performing a definition.
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