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[GOOMBLE :marseyladybugitsover:] Trump has just OFFICIALLY defined "woman" as "adult female human". Will we see a NYT or CNN article within the next month blaming him for a spike in LGBTQ+ suicides?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

yes - 104 bets

no - 125 bets

please stop posting - 6 bets


I will give a SIX HUNDRED (600) marseydollar bounty to the first person who sends me the inevitable news article.

If nobody has sent me the article within a month, I will spend SEVEN (7) minutes searching for the article on Google news. If I do not find it then, the bet resolves NO.

!remindme 1 month "site:nytimes suicide"


!bets !goomble !goomblers !goombling !project2025

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That won't stop :!marseytrain:s from being upset, even though they identify as genders that are not "banned".


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i mean most rational people should be upset lol, this is a completely r-slurred EO they wasted their time even drafting - just like the wokes couldn't strongarm society into accepting their cultural extremism, neither can the rightoids.

Some of the moral issues here don't even make any sense - one can agree for example, that simply declaring yourself a woman should not get you sent to a female prison, that's a rational stance to hold and most people probably agree with that outside of the most extreme of wokies.

where it becomes more nuanced is what exactly are we to do in the case of an actual long-time trans woman that presents and identifies as a woman? should we send them to a male prison? can the government guarantee their safety? No shot they can.

so what are we deciding here? some trans woman convicted of some random crime should be sent to a male prison to be r*ped and murdered?

as is the case with most rightoid positions, they have a very surface level understanding of an issue and apply a very surface level solution to whatever problem they believe exists. I've been trying to explain for ages why rightoids are way more dangerous than leftoids - with leftoids their most absurd positions aren't taken seriously and are never an actual threat. with absurd rightoid positions through the power of performative common sense face less resistance from the median voter.

As rational people we can agree that some guy shouldn't be allowed to declare himself a woman after being arrested to be sent to a softer prison - but you're never gonna convince me we should be sending actual trans women to male prisons under the guise of protecting women or whatever, it's a cruel and laughable position to hold, and most of society would probably agree if they had a more nuanced understanding of the topic.

if rightoid performative common sense won out historically we'd still have lead in our gas and we'd still be using asbestos.

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where it becomes more nuanced is what exactly are we to do in the case of an actual long-time trans woman that presents and identifies as a woman?

Do they still have their peepee? If so, they go to men's prison. Not that difficult to solve.

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And when you end up with a ton of dead trans women in prison because you decided to hold a black and white view of the subject?

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Man and woman is as black and white as you can get lmao

When have you become such an r-slured shitlib?

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it's that you're an extremist incapable of nuance.

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>basic biology is extremist

You're extremely r-slurred.

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Biologists generally agree there is a difference between biological s*x and gender bud.

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Yeah it's different as in "not based on reality."

Gender is a sociological concept invented by John Money who not only failed to prove his gender theory, he molested children.

No proof of the "gender of s*x only existing as a sociological construct" exists. A theory only espoused by documented libertarians.

You're not defending that, are you?

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The problem there is that American prisons don't protect their prisoners. A trans woman is no different than a small, weak or feminine male-identifying man in terms of being at risk of cruelty and harm. The ancient American phrase "do you know what they do to boys like you in prison?" is an example of this. Men who wear dresses aren't any more or less deserving of protection than any other man.

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What did all the trans women do in prisons before 2018?

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I care more about women getting r*ped by intact males in women's prison than the mentally ill :!marseytrain:s tbh.

We don't give flaming homosexuals special privileges even though they're more likely to get r*ped in a men's prison.

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A homosexual male can pass as straight, a trans woman after enough time will be an open target.

Like you guys are really dumb on this issue, youd do well to not hids your poorly thought out arguments behind a "what about the womenz" defense.

You dont care about women, nothing you believe about this topic is based on women.

Just like it wasnt very convincing when rightoids tried to hide their bad arguments behind protecting the gays, it isnt that convincing here.

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a trans woman after enough time will be an open target.

K, put them in PC with the cops and the chomos (but I repeat myself :marseybeanwink:)

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You're r-slurred.

Go back to stocking shelves.

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Because you arent a serious person.

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Wait I thought you meant them killing themselves because you wouldn't valiate them or whatever. Fear of them being killed by other prisoners is an even more r-slurred reason to send them to a woman's prison.

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We send effeminate gays to men's prison as well, no?

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No, you see, an effeminate bottom can just pretend to be straight.

Prisoners would never be able to sniff out that someone like pre-transition Dylan Mulvaney was a massive cute twink. :marseyclueless:

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True. Unlike the average troid, whose massive 5 o'clock shadow and petite 6"5 linebacker physique just screams "woman"

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:#marseyhope:

Total :marseytrain: death :marseyscoot:

No trans women are women

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A better standard is probably just an HRT requirement that continues into prison and is verified with blood tests.

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Lop it off or send them to men's prison.

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lop it off AND send them to men's prison.

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wow, thats a lot of words for defending :!marseytrain:s lol

or so i believe, i didnt actually read it

!transphobes

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Pizza is like the opposite of a TERF, it's great :marseythumbsup2:

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Foid exclusionary radical transgenderist

FERT :marseyfart:

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>cultural extremism

>men aren't women

Ok bro

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>pizza :#normielarp:ing

@Grue you've got (serious) competition

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You could have done crack instead of this shit

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for once I agree with you, lpb!

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What abject nonsense. You claim everyone knows not to send a dude to female prisons, yet that is 100% what is happening. Do you not get news in Kroger or what?

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Frick up

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One, everyone gets r*ped in male prison, not just transwomen. Two transwomen get sent to prison for sexual assault way more than any other group and there have been way too many instances of transwomen raping cis women in women's prison.

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>you're never gonna convince me we should be sending actual trans women to male prisons under the guise of protecting women or whatever, it's a cruel and laughable position to hold

>actual trans women

>actual trans women

You pays your money, you takes your choice.

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