Since this is being discussed more lately thanks to a thread was started on the less fun site
that is worth a read to avid trainspotters.
Here is some info i could scrape together on this story to rival alpacashwitz :
The leader
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ziz-jack-amadeus-lasota-zizians-sinceriously-fyi-wip.210782/
The Cult
https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509
Their Victims
https://openvallejo.org/2025/01/27/man-killed-in-vallejo-was-main-witness-in-upcoming-murder-trial/
The Site's Archive
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/glossary/
These
have in no particular order:
Impaled a landlord with a katana
Got shot for impaling said landlord
Got arested for threatning a rationalist meetup in guy fawks masks
Started and abandoned a houseboat fleet to avoid paying rent
Induced schizophrenia transness and other
trough sleep hemispheric deprivation and mind hacks
Plotted to kill some random spegs for reasons i can't be botherd to look into
Organised murder of a members parents for being abusive (telling them to get a job)
Faked their death certificate to evade enemies
Extra:
Google doc IP GRABBER!!! containing detailed info (probably, )
https://xcancel.com/kenthecowboy_/status/1884393311827550716#m
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RpAvd5TO5eMhJrdr2kz43dxT3nNm0XtuPcaW9kBIZL8/edit?tab=t.0
Interview with someone who is part of the cult (but totally not they pinky promise )
Screenshot of the thread for the accountles
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I hate how angry they all are
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I hate that most of the longer threads have "highlights" that are just one of them with a totally clever and funny dunk on the cow, rather than actual updates about the cow.
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Why they make you make an account to view certain threads on the kiwi
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That particular board "Prospering Grounds" is an incubator for new threads. It solves two problems, it stops any r-slur from making a shit OP and putting it out there for all to see, and people tend to immediately start deleting everything the second they realise everything they do is getting archived, giving someone else a chance to find something the original author might've missed before it's gone forever.
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because it was mostly people without an account viewing them, and null didn't want the website to become /news/ (i think)
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edited to add screenshot of thread
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At first I thought it was a red flag that Curtis Lind was renting to these weirdos and that something is missing. It just seemed too brazen that they'd make an attempt on his life and then finish him off years later. It crossed my mind that Lind might also be involved in drugs or weird s*x. It is of course still quite possible, but...
Ok so 10-15% of people rent out to [god knows who] as tenants. I have to imagine this is a much more common practice in California where housing prices and NIMBYism are through the roof.
I can't fathom having a tenant even if I had an ADU. I think the idea of roommates (who aren't family) or tenants is unnatural past a very young age. But I see it's common enough that we can't draw any conclusions off that.
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If you get a good one it's fine. You might run into them in the hallway every once in a while but otherwise you wouldn't even notice they're there. And it's convenient if you're doing a task that requires two people and need a hand.
The problem is, there's not really any way to tell in advance. Some of the worst psychos are quiet and mild-mannered, even meek. Then once they've been there a month and it takes a lot of effort to evict them they start being buttholes. I wouldn't do it unless I knew them or someone could vouch for them.
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It sounds like all of this started because of housing prices in San Francisco! Hahaha. Forgive me if that's reductive
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It all Started because of a gay harry potter fanfiction![:marseybangfast: :marseybangfast:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseybangfast.webp)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5782108/1/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality
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Another programmer socks genius![:marseymanysuchcases: :marseymanysuchcases:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseymanysuchcases.webp)
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Kids these days...
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I added more links![:marseylongpost: :marseylongpost:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseylongpost.webp)
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I put my entire life into rdrama and try so fricking hard to get better. I come out and everyone makes fun of me every post, my ex friends block me and call me slurs, I can't post without random people throwing and making fun of me. I post content and I'm the enemy and "I should be ashamed and kill myself" for it. It doesn't matter what I do the problem is I'm ugly and incel. Like genuinely what do people want me to do? Maybe if "dramatards" wouldn't call me a "f*ggot" when I ask to post with them things would be different.
Snapshots:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ziz-jack-amadeus-lasota-zizians-sinceriously-fyi-wip.210782/:
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https://zizians.info/:
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https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509:
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https://openvallejo.org/2025/01/27/suspects-in-killings-of-vallejo-witness-vermont-border-patrol-agent-connected-by-marriage-license-extreme-ideology/:
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https://openvallejo.org/2025/01/27/man-killed-in-vallejo-was-main-witness-in-upcoming-murder-trial/:
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https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/:
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https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/glossary/:
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