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The reddit OP is [[[deleted]]] but his legacy lives on.
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You can read the full context behind the 'You will never be a real woman' YWNBAW copypasta here
The link does not offer full context. It references its origin on a 4chan thread but doesn't even give the get.
Psychiatrists disagree with you.
Psychiatrists can say what they want, you will still, never be, a woman.
Why not?
Because You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs... [the full copypasta]
So what gives you more authority to make that judgement than psychiatrists?
So essentially, this is my reasoning:
You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. [full copypasta]
That's not reasoning. You just reposted the copypasta.
(Yeah no shit, that's what it's there for )
Because for some reason you aren't getting the message.
His observation doesn't come from an appeal to authority, like yours and "psychiatrists" do. His observation is based off of reality.
I can say I feel like an Asian woman. I can say I feel like a foxen kin, and psychiatrists can agree that I AM one, all they want, but the fact remains I was born a white male. Nothing changes this. Surgery doesn't. Altering my hormones doesn't. Changing my posture and clothes doesn't.
Would you like me to pasta that copy for you, again? Or is 4 times good enough?
[gay shit about appeals to authority and meta discussion]
Heres the climax!
I'll ask you point blank then: You think a man is a woman the moment he believes himself to be one?
Yes, she is.
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Except that the overwhelming scientific consensus on the subject is that gender identity exists separately from biological s*x, and that altering the latter to match the former is better, more healthy, and more feasible than the inverse.
As per my last two paragraphs [[[removed above]]], your comment qualifies as this conversation being ended.
If you're not willing to converse without me rejecting science in favor of supporting your bigotry, then yeah, we can't really continue from there.
Our brave little biological reality warrior then goes on to frick everything up by resorting to 2015 insults.
You're a bootlicker, incapable of thinking for yourself. Probably a cuck. Thanks for removing yourself from the gene pool
The battle continues, a year past the original post date. I won't copy it here, it's off in the weeds past the original point but here's the link many layers deep:
https://old.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/lyktos/ywnbaw/jco4w2w/?context=8
A couple of teasers if you want to delve into the ancient battlefield:
Imagine calling someone a "bootlicker" because they're more pro-freedom than you
Freedom to sin is terrible for the soul. Should be stopped immediately. Inshallah.
If I want to commit a sin that hurts me and me alone, then I see no reason why laws should exist to restrict that. It's my afterlife to afterlive.
There is no such sin that only affects the sinner.
Ivan Karamazov ... Grand Inquisitor ... Long gay quote from some dead russian with a stupid name
Yeah I'm not reading that great wall of china long text wall
Your lack of classical education does not render Dostoevsky obscure, kid. (my favorite cringe out of all of this)
Those who believe in omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent gods must know that such hypotheticals bla bla
[the battle ends 2 years after the original thread]
Honourable Mention (!bardfinn spelling)
You ๐๐ will never โ be a real ๐ woman ๐ฉ. You ๐ have no ๐ ๐ womb ๐ถ, you ๐ have no ๐ ๐ปโ ovaries ๐ฃ๐ฉ๐พ, you ๐ have no โ๐ซ eggs ๐ฅ. You ๐ are a homosexual ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ man ๐จ๐ผ๐ซ twisted ๐ฅจ by drugs ๐ and surgery ๐ฅ into a crude ๐บ mockery ๐ค of nature's perfection ๐.
All ๐ฏ the "validation" you ๐ get ๐๐ฎ๐น is two-faced and half-hearted ๐. Behind โฉ your ๐๐พ back โฌ people ๐จ mock ๐จ๐ you ๐๐. Your ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ parents ๐ช๐ฌ are disgusted ๐คข and ashamed ๐ฉ of you ๐, your ๐ "friends" laugh ๐คฃ๐ at your โ๐ ghoulish appearance ๐ behind ๐๐ฅ closed ๐ซ doors ๐ช.
Men ๐จ are utterly ๐ repulsed by you ๐๐. Thousands ๐๐ผ๐ฏ of years ๐ of evolution ๐ have allowed ๐ men ๐จ to sniff ๐ out frauds ๐ซ with incredible ๐ฏโผโ efficiency ๐. Even ๐ s ๐โโ๏ธ๐ who "pass" look ๐ uncanny and unnatural ๐ฝ to a man ๐จ๐. Your ๐ bone ๐ structure ๐ is a dead โ giveaway ๐๐ฅณ๐. And even ๐ if you ๐ manage ๐ง to get ๐ a drunk ๐บ๐ป guy ๐จ home ๐ with you ๐, he'll turn ๐ tail ๐ and bolt ๐๐ปโโ๏ธ the second โฑ he ๐ฅ gets ๐๐ด a whiff ๐ค of your ๐๐๐พ๐ diseased ๐ท๐ฑ, infected ๐ axe ๐๐ค๐ wound ๐จ.
You ๐ will never ๐ซ๐ฉ be happy ๐. You ๐ wrench ๐จ๐ฟโ๐ง out a fake ๐ป smile ๐ every โ single โ morning ๐ and tell ๐ฌ yourself it's going ๐ to be ok ๐๐ฏ, but ๐ deep ๐ฑ inside ๐ you ๐ feel ๐ the depression ๐ญ creeping ๐ฅ up โฌ like ๐ a weed ๐, ready ๐ to crush ๐๐ you ๐ under โโฌ๐ the unbearable ๐ค weight ๐๐๐ค.
Eventually ๐ฆ๐ it'll be too much ๐ฉ๐๐ to bear ๐ฏ๐ป - you'll buy ๐ฐ a rope โฐ, tie ๐ a noose ๐, put ๐ it around ๐ your ๐๐ neck ๐ช, and plunge ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฉ into the cold โ abyss ๐๐. Your ๐ parents ๐ช will find ๐ you ๐, heartbroken ๐๐ข but ๐ relieved ๐คค that they no ๐ฃ longer ๐ have to live ๐ฉ with the unbearable ๐ฅ๐๐ shame ๐ณ and disappointment ๐. They'll bury โฐ you ๐ with a headstone marked ๐ with your ๐ถ๐ birth ๐ name ๐, and every โ passerby for the rest ๐ค of eternity ๐๐๐ ๐ฟ will know ๐ค a man ๐จ is buried ๐ณ there. Your ๐ body ๐ will decay โ and go ๐๐ผโโ๏ธ back ๐ to the dust ๐จ, and all ๐ฏ that will remain ๐ฅ of your ๐ legacy ๐๐ is a skeleton ๐ that is unmistakably male ๐ฆ.
This is your ๐๐ ๐ fate ๐โ . This is what you ๐ chose ๐๐๐. There is no ๐ ๐๐ง turning ๐ซโฉ back ๐.
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The benefit is its utility in every other facet other than social interaction.
For example: say you want to demonstrate kin altruism through genetic relatedness in hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants, etc).
You need to exclusively use the biological reality of two sexes which produce sperm and eggs. You need to understand the binary genetics of binary sexes. You need to understand haplodiploidy.
A different example: say you want to map out prehistoric human migrations. You use mitochondria from women (they are only passed on through eggs) and the Y chromosome from men (they are only passed on through sperm).
Gender studies people harass and protest and bring lawsuits to biology textbook publishers to include a token line at the beginning of the book that says "sometimes people don't feel that their body doesn't match how they feel" and then claim that biological scientists agree with them.
This is why archaeologists and anthropologists get harassed for saying they found an ancient female and then have to edit the report to include that they don't know the person's gender.
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I also think gender shouldn't be inserted in topics that clearly require biological s*x But we aren't studying mitochondria most of the time are we?
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Mitochondria have their own DNA separate from the rest of your cells, and it doesn't change as quickly as human DNA, so it's more useful for super duper long ago periods of time.
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But how is this relevant to social interaction?
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Biological reality is useful.
Gender identity is not useful. It's just being nice in society, which is okay to do.
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Is treating clinical dysphoria of people not useful?
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No, its more useful to institutionalize the crazy. Would literally end like 90% of the homeless crisis overnight.
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I don't think we should lock people in institutions for being different
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Clearly delusional, officer take this person to the nearest insane asylum.
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The DSM suggests having them socially transition to maximize well being. They should listen to their doctor because that is useful for them.
It doesn't change biological reality, and biologists and anthropologists should be left out to their diagnosis.
I say this because they are already under attack from Evangelicals trying to shut down the Department of Education and cut their grants, and they don't need the Gender Studies department attacking them with eliminate biological reality on top of that.
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Other dysphorias are treated by trying to get the patient to break out of the dysphoria. I get depressed when you think I'm at a healthy weight, why shouldn't other people let me keep starving myself so I can meet my thin goals? I'm not hurting anyone, so can't everyone just be polite and let me be anorexic in peace? Anorexics are known to be less depressed if they continue to lose weight, it's just kind to let them do that.
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And what if the easiest way to treat the dysphoria is to have the patient transition?
Source?
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Go visit a proana community some time. Though you've never provided a single source for any of your claims, so I don't have high expectations of you.
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Why are you earnestly arguing with a reddit brained cute twink?
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I quite like pointing out to crazy liars that they're crazy liars, and when I get bored I just do something else.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I also like watching their arguments mutate in real time as they try to justify their insanity in all the ways they can.
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