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The YWNBAW post on /r/copypasta (3 years old) is an entertaining yet typical tennis match between "s*x is biological reality" and "psychologists say that you're whatever you think you are."

https://old.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/lyktos/ywnbaw/

								

								

This was posted on rDrama a year ago but without annotation or marseys.

The reddit OP is [[[deleted]]] but his legacy lives on.


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You can read the full context behind the 'You will never be a real woman' YWNBAW copypasta here

https://copypastatext.com/you-will-never-be-a-real-woman/

The link does not offer full context. It references its origin on a 4chan thread but doesn't even give the get.


:!marseyfreedomofspeech: You can say whatever you want but it is true. Just because you "feel" you are a woman, doesnt mean you are one. Period. Its all in the post

:marseyakshually: Psychiatrists disagree with you.

:marsey: Psychiatrists can say what they want, you will still, never be, a woman.

:marseywitch2: Why not?

:marsey: Because You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs... [the full copypasta]

:marseywitch2: So what gives you more authority to make that judgement than psychiatrists?

:marsey: So essentially, this is my reasoning:

You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. [full copypasta]

:marseywitchtriggered: That's not reasoning. You just reposted the copypasta.

(Yeah no shit, that's what it's there for :marseyxd:)

:marseyslab: Because for some reason you aren't getting the message.

His observation doesn't come from an appeal to authority, like yours and "psychiatrists" do. His observation is based off of reality.

I can say I feel like an Asian woman. I can say I feel like a foxen kin, and psychiatrists can agree that I AM one, all they want, but the fact remains I was born a white male. Nothing changes this. Surgery doesn't. Altering my hormones doesn't. Changing my posture and clothes doesn't.

Would you like me to pasta that copy for you, again? Or is 4 times good enough?

:marseywitch2: [gay shit about appeals to authority and meta discussion]

Heres the climax!

:marsey: I'll ask you point blank then: You think a man is a woman the moment he believes himself to be one?

:marseywitch2: Yes, she is.

:#pronouncorrection: INTENSIFIES

:marsey: [[[ Removed by Reddit ]]]

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17384280344cQj_TBx2wT2Uw.webp

:marseywitch2: Except that the overwhelming scientific consensus on the subject is that gender identity exists separately from biological s*x, and that altering the latter to match the former is better, more healthy, and more feasible than the inverse.

:#marseysurejan:

:marsey: As per my last two paragraphs [[[removed above]]], your comment qualifies as this conversation being ended.

:marseywitch2: If you're not willing to converse without me rejecting science in favor of supporting your bigotry, then yeah, we can't really continue from there.

Our brave little biological reality warrior then goes on to frick everything up by resorting to 2015 insults.

:marsey: You're a bootlicker, incapable of thinking for yourself. Probably a cuck. Thanks for removing yourself from the gene pool

The battle continues, a year past the original post date. I won't copy it here, it's off in the weeds past the original point but here's the link many layers deep:

https://old.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/lyktos/ywnbaw/jco4w2w/?context=8

A couple of teasers if you want to delve into the ancient battlefield:

  • Imagine calling someone a "bootlicker" because they're more pro-freedom than you

  • Freedom to sin is terrible for the soul. Should be stopped immediately. Inshallah.

  • If I want to commit a sin that hurts me and me alone, then I see no reason why laws should exist to restrict that. It's my afterlife to afterlive.

  • There is no such sin that only affects the sinner.

  • Ivan Karamazov ... Grand Inquisitor ... Long gay quote from some dead russian with a stupid name :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost:

  • Yeah I'm not reading that great wall of china long text wall

  • Your lack of classical education does not render Dostoevsky obscure, kid. (my favorite cringe out of all of this)

  • Those who believe in omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent gods must know that such hypotheticals bla bla

  • [the battle ends 2 years after the original thread]


Honourable Mention (!bardfinn spelling)

/u/EmojifierBot

You ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘‰ will never โŒ be a real ๐Ÿ˜ woman ๐Ÿ‘ฉ. You ๐Ÿ‘‰ have no ๐Ÿ™…๐ŸŒˆ womb ๐Ÿ‘ถ, you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ have no ๐Ÿ™…๐ŸปโŒ ovaries ๐Ÿ—ฃ๐Ÿ‘ฉ๐Ÿพ, you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ have no โŒ๐Ÿšซ eggs ๐Ÿฅš. You ๐Ÿ‘ˆ are a homosexual ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ man ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿšซ twisted ๐Ÿฅจ by drugs ๐Ÿ’Š and surgery ๐Ÿฅ into a crude ๐Ÿ‘บ mockery ๐Ÿ˜ค of nature's perfection ๐Ÿ‘Œ.

All ๐Ÿ’ฏ the "validation" you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ get ๐Ÿ‰๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น is two-faced and half-hearted ๐Ÿ’”. Behind โ†ฉ your ๐Ÿ‘ˆ๐Ÿพ back โฌ… people ๐Ÿ‘จ mock ๐Ÿ˜จ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ๐Ÿ•›. Your ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ถ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿš€ parents ๐Ÿ‘ช๐Ÿ›ฌ are disgusted ๐Ÿคข and ashamed ๐Ÿ˜ฉ of you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ, your ๐Ÿ‘‰ "friends" laugh ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚ at your โ›“๐Ÿ‘‰ ghoulish appearance ๐Ÿ”Ž behind ๐Ÿ‘Ÿ๐Ÿ’ฅ closed ๐Ÿšซ doors ๐Ÿšช.

Men ๐Ÿ‘จ are utterly ๐Ÿ„ repulsed by you ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ˜. Thousands ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐ŸŒผ๐Ÿ’ฏ of years ๐Ÿ—“ of evolution ๐Ÿ’ have allowed ๐Ÿ˜– men ๐Ÿ‘จ to sniff ๐Ÿ‘ƒ out frauds ๐Ÿšซ with incredible ๐Ÿ˜ฏโ€ผโ— efficiency ๐Ÿ“Š. Even ๐ŸŒƒ :!marseytrain:s ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ‘  who "pass" look ๐Ÿ‘€ uncanny and unnatural ๐Ÿ‘ฝ to a man ๐Ÿ‘จ๐ŸŒŠ. Your ๐Ÿ‘‰ bone ๐Ÿ– structure ๐Ÿ  is a dead โ˜  giveaway ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽŠ. And even ๐ŸŒƒ if you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ manage ๐Ÿง” to get ๐Ÿ‰ a drunk ๐Ÿบ๐Ÿป guy ๐Ÿ‘จ home ๐Ÿ  with you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ, he'll turn ๐Ÿ”„ tail ๐Ÿ‘ and bolt ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ the second โฑ he ๐Ÿ‘ฅ gets ๐Ÿ‰๐Ÿ“ด a whiff ๐Ÿค‘ of your ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ„๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ“ diseased ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿฑ, infected ๐Ÿ˜– axe ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜  wound ๐Ÿ’จ.

You ๐Ÿ‘ˆ will never ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’ฉ be happy ๐Ÿ˜Š. You ๐Ÿ‘ˆ wrench ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿฟโ€๐Ÿ”ง out a fake ๐Ÿ‘ป smile ๐Ÿ˜Š every โ˜ single โ˜ morning ๐ŸŒ„ and tell ๐Ÿ’ฌ yourself it's going ๐Ÿƒ to be ok ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ฏ, but ๐Ÿ‘ deep ๐Ÿ˜ฑ inside ๐Ÿ’  you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ feel ๐Ÿ˜œ the depression ๐Ÿ˜ญ creeping ๐Ÿ’ฅ up โฌ† like ๐Ÿ’– a weed ๐Ÿ, ready ๐Ÿ˜ to crush ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ“ you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ under โŒโฌ‡๐Ÿ‘‡ the unbearable ๐Ÿ˜ค weight ๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜“๐Ÿ’ค.

Eventually ๐Ÿ’ฆ๐Ÿ† it'll be too much ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ™€ to bear ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿป - you'll buy ๐Ÿ’ฐ a rope โžฐ, tie ๐Ÿ‘” a noose ๐Ÿ˜”, put ๐Ÿ”› it around ๐Ÿ”ƒ your ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ˜˜ neck ๐Ÿช, and plunge ๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฉ into the cold โ„ abyss ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜. Your ๐Ÿ‘‰ parents ๐Ÿ‘ช will find ๐Ÿ”Ž you ๐Ÿ‘‰, heartbroken ๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ˜ข but ๐Ÿ‘ relieved ๐Ÿคค that they no ๐Ÿ˜ฃ longer ๐Ÿ† have to live ๐Ÿ˜ฉ with the unbearable ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ‘ƒ๐Ÿ‘Ž shame ๐Ÿ˜ณ and disappointment ๐Ÿ™ƒ. They'll bury โšฐ you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ with a headstone marked ๐Ÿ– with your ๐Ÿ‘ถ๐Ÿ‘ˆ birth ๐Ÿ‘‘ name ๐Ÿ“›, and every โ˜ passerby for the rest ๐Ÿ’ค of eternity ๐ŸŒ‹๐Ÿ†Ž๐Ÿ’…๐Ÿฟ will know ๐Ÿค” a man ๐Ÿ‘จ is buried ๐Ÿ•ณ there. Your ๐Ÿ‘‰ body ๐Ÿ’ƒ will decay โ˜  and go ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ back ๐Ÿ”™ to the dust ๐Ÿ’จ, and all ๐Ÿ’ฏ that will remain ๐Ÿ˜ฅ of your ๐Ÿ‘‰ legacy ๐Ÿ’๐ŸŒ„ is a skeleton ๐Ÿ’€ that is unmistakably male ๐Ÿ‘ฆ.

This is your ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ• fate ๐Ÿ’€โ˜ . This is what you ๐Ÿ‘ˆ chose ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘ˆ. There is no ๐Ÿ™…๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿšง turning ๐Ÿ’ซโ†ฉ back ๐Ÿ”™.


!chuds !transphobes !historychads

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The benefit is its utility in every other facet other than social interaction.

For example: say you want to demonstrate kin altruism through genetic relatedness in hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants, etc).

You need to exclusively use the biological reality of two sexes which produce sperm and eggs. You need to understand the binary genetics of binary sexes. You need to understand haplodiploidy.

A different example: say you want to map out prehistoric human migrations. You use mitochondria from women (they are only passed on through eggs) and the Y chromosome from men (they are only passed on through sperm).

Gender studies people harass and protest and bring lawsuits to biology textbook publishers to include a token line at the beginning of the book that says "sometimes people don't feel that their body doesn't match how they feel" and then claim that biological scientists agree with them.

This is why archaeologists and anthropologists get harassed for saying they found an ancient female and then have to edit the report to include that they don't know the person's gender.

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I also think gender shouldn't be inserted in topics that clearly require biological s*x :marseythinkorino: But we aren't studying mitochondria most of the time are we?

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Mitochondria have their own DNA separate from the rest of your cells, and it doesn't change as quickly as human DNA, so it's more useful for super duper long ago periods of time.

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But how is this relevant to social interaction?

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Biological reality is useful.

Gender identity is not useful. It's just being nice in society, which is okay to do.

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Is treating clinical dysphoria of people not useful?

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Other dysphorias are treated by trying to get the patient to break out of the dysphoria. I get depressed when you think I'm at a healthy weight, why shouldn't other people let me keep starving myself so I can meet my thin goals? I'm not hurting anyone, so can't everyone just be polite and let me be anorexic in peace? Anorexics are known to be less depressed if they continue to lose weight, it's just kind to let them do that.

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And what if the easiest way to treat the dysphoria is to have the patient transition?

Anorexics are known to be less depressed if they continue to lose weight

:classicsnoo: Source?

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Go visit a proana community some time. Though you've never provided a single source for any of your claims, so I don't have high expectations of you.

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No, its more useful to institutionalize the crazy. Would literally end like 90% of the homeless crisis overnight.

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I don't think we should lock people in institutions for being different

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738440623s4omlqYnkA-ZnA.webp

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Clearly delusional, officer take this person to the nearest insane asylum.

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The DSM suggests having them socially transition to maximize well being. They should listen to their doctor because that is useful for them.

It doesn't change biological reality, and biologists and anthropologists should be left out to their diagnosis.

I say this because they are already under attack from Evangelicals trying to shut down the Department of Education and cut their grants, and they don't need the Gender Studies department attacking them with eliminate biological reality on top of that.

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Why are you earnestly arguing with a reddit brained cute twink?

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I quite like pointing out to crazy liars that they're crazy liars, and when I get bored I just do something else.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I also like watching their arguments mutate in real time as they try to justify their insanity in all the ways they can.

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