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The reddit OP is [[[deleted]]] but his legacy lives on.
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You can read the full context behind the 'You will never be a real woman' YWNBAW copypasta here
The link does not offer full context. It references its origin on a 4chan thread but doesn't even give the get.
Psychiatrists disagree with you.
Psychiatrists can say what they want, you will still, never be, a woman.
Why not?
Because You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs... [the full copypasta]
So what gives you more authority to make that judgement than psychiatrists?
So essentially, this is my reasoning:
You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. [full copypasta]
That's not reasoning. You just reposted the copypasta.
(Yeah no shit, that's what it's there for )
Because for some reason you aren't getting the message.
His observation doesn't come from an appeal to authority, like yours and "psychiatrists" do. His observation is based off of reality.
I can say I feel like an Asian woman. I can say I feel like a foxen kin, and psychiatrists can agree that I AM one, all they want, but the fact remains I was born a white male. Nothing changes this. Surgery doesn't. Altering my hormones doesn't. Changing my posture and clothes doesn't.
Would you like me to pasta that copy for you, again? Or is 4 times good enough?
[gay shit about appeals to authority and meta discussion]
Heres the climax!
I'll ask you point blank then: You think a man is a woman the moment he believes himself to be one?
Yes, she is.
INTENSIFIES
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Except that the overwhelming scientific consensus on the subject is that gender identity exists separately from biological s*x, and that altering the latter to match the former is better, more healthy, and more feasible than the inverse.
As per my last two paragraphs [[[removed above]]], your comment qualifies as this conversation being ended.
If you're not willing to converse without me rejecting science in favor of supporting your bigotry, then yeah, we can't really continue from there.
Our brave little biological reality warrior then goes on to frick everything up by resorting to 2015 insults.
You're a bootlicker, incapable of thinking for yourself. Probably a cuck. Thanks for removing yourself from the gene pool
The battle continues, a year past the original post date. I won't copy it here, it's off in the weeds past the original point but here's the link many layers deep:
https://old.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/lyktos/ywnbaw/jco4w2w/?context=8
A couple of teasers if you want to delve into the ancient battlefield:
Imagine calling someone a "bootlicker" because they're more pro-freedom than you
Freedom to sin is terrible for the soul. Should be stopped immediately. Inshallah.
If I want to commit a sin that hurts me and me alone, then I see no reason why laws should exist to restrict that. It's my afterlife to afterlive.
There is no such sin that only affects the sinner.
Ivan Karamazov ... Grand Inquisitor ... Long gay quote from some dead russian with a stupid name
Yeah I'm not reading that great wall of china long text wall
Your lack of classical education does not render Dostoevsky obscure, kid. (my favorite cringe out of all of this)
Those who believe in omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent gods must know that such hypotheticals bla bla
[the battle ends 2 years after the original thread]
Honourable Mention (!bardfinn spelling)
You ๐๐ will never โ be a real ๐ woman ๐ฉ. You ๐ have no ๐ ๐ womb ๐ถ, you ๐ have no ๐ ๐ปโ ovaries ๐ฃ๐ฉ๐พ, you ๐ have no โ๐ซ eggs ๐ฅ. You ๐ are a homosexual ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ man ๐จ๐ผ๐ซ twisted ๐ฅจ by drugs ๐ and surgery ๐ฅ into a crude ๐บ mockery ๐ค of nature's perfection ๐.
All ๐ฏ the "validation" you ๐ get ๐๐ฎ๐น is two-faced and half-hearted ๐. Behind โฉ your ๐๐พ back โฌ people ๐จ mock ๐จ๐ you ๐๐. Your ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ parents ๐ช๐ฌ are disgusted ๐คข and ashamed ๐ฉ of you ๐, your ๐ "friends" laugh ๐คฃ๐ at your โ๐ ghoulish appearance ๐ behind ๐๐ฅ closed ๐ซ doors ๐ช.
Men ๐จ are utterly ๐ repulsed by you ๐๐. Thousands ๐๐ผ๐ฏ of years ๐ of evolution ๐ have allowed ๐ men ๐จ to sniff ๐ out frauds ๐ซ with incredible ๐ฏโผโ efficiency ๐. Even ๐ s ๐โโ๏ธ๐ who "pass" look ๐ uncanny and unnatural ๐ฝ to a man ๐จ๐. Your ๐ bone ๐ structure ๐ is a dead โ giveaway ๐๐ฅณ๐. And even ๐ if you ๐ manage ๐ง to get ๐ a drunk ๐บ๐ป guy ๐จ home ๐ with you ๐, he'll turn ๐ tail ๐ and bolt ๐๐ปโโ๏ธ the second โฑ he ๐ฅ gets ๐๐ด a whiff ๐ค of your ๐๐๐พ๐ diseased ๐ท๐ฑ, infected ๐ axe ๐๐ค๐ wound ๐จ.
You ๐ will never ๐ซ๐ฉ be happy ๐. You ๐ wrench ๐จ๐ฟโ๐ง out a fake ๐ป smile ๐ every โ single โ morning ๐ and tell ๐ฌ yourself it's going ๐ to be ok ๐๐ฏ, but ๐ deep ๐ฑ inside ๐ you ๐ feel ๐ the depression ๐ญ creeping ๐ฅ up โฌ like ๐ a weed ๐, ready ๐ to crush ๐๐ you ๐ under โโฌ๐ the unbearable ๐ค weight ๐๐๐ค.
Eventually ๐ฆ๐ it'll be too much ๐ฉ๐๐ to bear ๐ฏ๐ป - you'll buy ๐ฐ a rope โฐ, tie ๐ a noose ๐, put ๐ it around ๐ your ๐๐ neck ๐ช, and plunge ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฉ into the cold โ abyss ๐๐. Your ๐ parents ๐ช will find ๐ you ๐, heartbroken ๐๐ข but ๐ relieved ๐คค that they no ๐ฃ longer ๐ have to live ๐ฉ with the unbearable ๐ฅ๐๐ shame ๐ณ and disappointment ๐. They'll bury โฐ you ๐ with a headstone marked ๐ with your ๐ถ๐ birth ๐ name ๐, and every โ passerby for the rest ๐ค of eternity ๐๐๐ ๐ฟ will know ๐ค a man ๐จ is buried ๐ณ there. Your ๐ body ๐ will decay โ and go ๐๐ผโโ๏ธ back ๐ to the dust ๐จ, and all ๐ฏ that will remain ๐ฅ of your ๐ legacy ๐๐ is a skeleton ๐ that is unmistakably male ๐ฆ.
This is your ๐๐ ๐ fate ๐โ . This is what you ๐ chose ๐๐๐. There is no ๐ ๐๐ง turning ๐ซโฉ back ๐.
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You seem to just hate s if I'm going to be honest. You portray them as some subversive evil force destroying everything. That is insanely out of touch with reality.
They don't "go after children", they recognize gender dysphoria can be diagnosed before the age of 18. Now of course we shouldn't let children decide this spontaniously but it's pretty clear when a teenager has dysphoria and tells you for years.
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^^
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I have never lied about my beliefs on this site.
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Go back to your groomercord server
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Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a subversive groomercord , sure
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I didn't imply you were a
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I see people saying shit that is wrong and I have a compulsion to argue with them. Like I can tolerate people being racist but if they're racist because of pseudoscience it makes me pissed. Maybe I'm just neurodivergent I don't know lol
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Tldr?
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Being wrong = Bad
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Actually its very unclear, it resolves automatically in about 80, 85% of cases. What's clear is that most return to reality and how much damage the shit like underage hormones and blockers does.
No, if you want to be a freak in a dress you do you. The constant push of "treat me exactly the same as a real woman" is where almost everyone has a problem with them.
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Source?
Does failing to apply hormones with someone who is dysphoric not cause damage? Puperty is irreversible.
Why is it wrong for them to want that?
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Dysphoria in teenagers is a hard one for me to reckon with. I think if you want to do some thing that makes you happy but makes 0 sense to me personally after you're 18, go for it - we don't criminalize alcoholics who never operate a motor vehicle or get belligerent in public.
But kids get caught up in fads - it's so difficult to say that their dysphoria is genuine (setting aside the legitimacy of dysphoria for the sake of argument) and they won't cause more psychological damage later. That said, if you're genuinely trans and will be forever, transitioning while young lets you configure puberty like you want and makes you pass better and less dysphoric.
Idk it seems impossible to allow this without the collateral damage of kids chasing trends. Crackpot theory I guess is we need to allow some (operative word here being SOME) trans people to be disgusting, ugly, and worthy of ridicule, not just because they're trans but just for how they genuinely are (like that 50 year old guy in Canada who needed everyone to call him a little girl). Basically, we just need to allow trans people to exist but absolutely normally without the coddling.
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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.
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This requires no one to know about 'egg-cracking', to deny that ROGD is a thing, and also that anyone who disagrees with your opinion, not facts but your opinion, actually just is an evil person.
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I don't think everyone who disagrees with me is evil. But a ton of people are just malicious. Like half of the anti-trans movement just outright claims trans people are male feminists and libertarians. How are you supposed to negotiate anything with people like that?
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