Most Scientifically Literate Senator explains how science can be wrong, so we should never question it when it's settled :sciencejak:

https://x.com/ianmSC/status/1885114774247399621

IDK what the context is


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If you don't know how to replicate it, then you honestly don't possess the training to question someone else's results

>its not that the study was wrong, its just that that scientist who couldnt replicate it was a big dumb. Also they shouldnt try to replicate/question other studies bc of this. :marseysmoothbrain:

Also the senator in this thread isnt even referring to what science is being questioned, so the nuance thay your takking about may not apply. Again, in a general sense questioning/being skeptical of science is a better circumstance, than just blindly agreeing with "experts" especially when it comes to public policy. Also its insane to browbeat people for "questioning the science" when it comes to matters of public health after how poorly "the experts" handled that.

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I'm talking way too general probably.

But yes, a farmer who has a personal anecdote about boofing anti-parasite medication to cure a viral infection has as much validity as a college girl who used crystals to cure cancer. They're both completely uncontrolled and don't aggregate with other uncontrolled anecdotes.

Like I said, if I can't read, I can't correct someone else's spelling. I'm not qualified to conduct a vaccine study, and though I don't feel like people should blindly follow, there's a limitations to how informed my questions would be.

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I feel like your arguing that the questioning especially when done by the lesser educated isnt perfect, butt that hardly vitiates my argument that questioning is important and in general people who tell you to simply not question something have malicious intentions for you.

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I was just saying elsewhere that once the discussion enters the political arena, scientific discussion ends and everything becomes an accusation that the opponent is a secret skill for something nefarious.

If you want to put up wind turbines, you're a communist shill who wants to destroy the American economy by burning less oil.

If you don't want to put up wind turbines, you're a Big Oil shill who sees his profit margins dwindling.

Everyone who disagrees with you secretly wants to hurt you. That's modern science discourse.

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Everyone who disagrees with you secretly wants to hurt you. That's modern science discourse.

that or anyone who disagrees with you is a dumb who isnt qualified to question what you agree with. Also i dont a ssume someone wants to hurt me simply because they disagree, its when they dont even want me ask questions about their view point that I assume that theyre not coming from a place of good-faith. "I disagree and here's why" is far more reasonable than "I disagree. No i eont ecplain myself, and your dumb/a bad person for not sharing my view". Even if the later isnt based on a nefarious agenda, its clearly not a fair one.

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All great points.

It gets very frustrating to explain to people that mRNA cannot be converted back into your DNA because you are a mammal and don't have the genes to do it.

It gets more frustrating the more you have to repeat yourself to different people.

I'm not a science communicator and that's a good thing because I would burn out the first day and find a new profession.

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its frustrating when the :sciencejak: called the mRNA vaccines safe and effective butt then had to keep moving the goal posts on what that meant while downplaying side effects. It gets frustrating when your told not to question something the :sciencejak: want to force into your body. It gets frustrating when dont question The Science turns into the vaccine manufacturers having extreme liability protections thatbkeep getting extended

https://rdrama.net/h/mmn/post/328305/bidenmarseybiden2hhs-extends-covid-vaccinemarseyrubberhoseheroinliability-shield-through

its frustrating that dont question the science means that pfizer is trying to keep their vaccine data sealed for 75 years.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/

https://media.tenor.com/F10wueQc_AcAAAAx/eye-roll-cher.webp

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They need to make a vaccine that makes women skinny with big butt titties

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big pharma keeps that technology under wraps so that it doesnt cut into their profits from selling antidepressants. :marseydepressed:

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Like I said, if I can't read, I can't correct someone else's spelling. I'm not qualified to conduct a vaccine study, and though I don't feel like people should blindly follow, there's a limitations to how informed my questions would be.

You're talking like understanding statistical significance requires a PhD. It does not.

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Anyone can stats.

Finding a systemic problem in someone correctly following the methodology, implementing positive and negative controls at different intervals, determining if someone selected the correct analytical equipment to gather and quantity samples, reviewing overall QAQC from a parent standard to a prepared concentrated solution -- these are somewhat specialized and very useful for looking at an experiment.

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Were still talking about vaccines and shit, yeah?

Clinical trials are standardized to follow inflexible analyses for a reason, and its so that all the FDAcels and the chinese foreigners - who somehow ended up working there totally not due to nepotism and do not have specialized understanding of all areas of biological science - can evaluate them.

If your clinical trial requires specialized methodologies that only some 5head locked in an academic basement can understand, well you wouldn't even get your foot in the door, you are already dead in the water.

if you think otherwise you do not know what you're talking about.

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Kinda. There's more to it with OLS and other methods. It also helps to know the competing theories for a specific field, but yeah if I wanted to pick apart a vaccine paper, I could, but I wouldn't be surprised if I made a wrong conclusion because of something particular that I didn't know with that field.

I know you like to troll around, but I wanted to give me 2 cents. :marseyexcited:

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but I wouldn't be surprised if I made a wrong conclusion because of something particular that I didn't know with that field.

Midwit confirmed

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I'm being trolled by @aydyn.

!metashit'ers, what did I do to deserve this?

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Bro by your own admission you cant even read a paper and objectively evaluate it. Are you serious?

I would kill myself if I ever felt dumb enough that I couldnt even understand some vaccine effect paper.

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Or maybe we shouldn't reverse the burden of proof which is kind of was @ACA was eluding to.

Everyone loves to try and cherrypick shit to disrupt the normal process since it's a million times easier than proving their own conspirashit.

e.g.

>I have this really cool study from China funded by the Chinese government that says Acupuncture acktually works. The fact that there's an existing preponderance of evidence from across the globe and a variety of unbiased sources coupled with a lack of biologic plausibility or mechanism effectively demonstrating Acupuncture is bullshit is irrelevant because sometimes science is wrong, therefore we cannot definitely say Acupuncture is bad or ineffective and we should continue to waste large amounts of resources re-answering questions that are already addressed by the premise which is science can be wrong therefore we should just accept Acupuncture good because you can't prove a negative

Despite conspiracy shit about covid etc. there remains a reasonable consensus and a preponderance of data for balancing safety and efficacy, so in lack of actual proof, antivaxxers give up on solving this peoblem and attack the question ad nauseum, which is kind of what it sounds this dumbass politician was trying to shit out of her mouth instead of saying:

"stfu we're tired of playing whack-a-mole with conspiracy shit lol get fukd"

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there remains a reasonable consensus and a preponderance of data for balancing safety and efficacy,

they say that about putting kids on puberty blockers/gender affirming care.

also The Science says your wrong about studying brave and valid accupuncture

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/exploring-science-acupuncture

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/acupuncture

https://www.va.gov/greater-los-angeles-health-care/stories/its-amazing-how-the-ancient-art-of-acupuncture-is-making-waves-at-west-la-va/

:marseyjewoftheorientglow: and :marseyjones: stay winning

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they say that about putting kids on puberty blockers/gender affirming care.

No there never was consensus or preponderance of evidence which is why it is self righting as a function of this very process which started to turn tide even at the peak of leftoid political dominance and is so weak it literally took one angry ugly woman to make all :marseytrain2:s online collectively piss their panties because they've gotten away with trying to abuse these same arguments without doing any of the actual work which allows it to be easily contradicted unlike hard science stuff like vaccines, nuclear power, evolution etc.

The cass report is definitely also a case of cherrypicking but the fact that was better researched than 99.999% of all garbage studies on :marseytrain:s is a testiment to the fact that this was always some post-modern Sokal affair hoax that literally got out of hand and escaped from a gender study lab in Portland, Oregon.

https://rdrama.net/post/193924/marseydoctortalking-doctors-rise-up-new-marseytrain

https://rdrama.net/post/270363/wpath-phenology-in-shambles-because-of

The Science says your wrong about studying brave and valid accupuncture

Yes, like I said, cherrypicking is a million times easier. Thats why people advocate for science based medicine over evidence based medicine because r-slurs call qualitative data about fefes valid despite having mostly shit utility.

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No there never was consensu

tell that to the American Medical Association

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-states-stop-interfering-health-care-transgender-children

i feel like your whole point anout cherry picking does more to legitimize my argument that we should be evr questioning, at least we should be asking whether the data coming from the experts at harvard, john hopkins medicine and the VA is cherry picked? I mean theyre certaunly more qualified than me and you, butt does thay mean theyre infallible? I think not. And thats why instead of doing accupuncture I stick to apple cider vinegar colonics.

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The American Medical Association is lobbying group for physicians who try to bully all of them into membership but are ultimately just one of countless political lobbying entities. Their credibility has always been shit, just like any single one source. E.g. The Lancet, highly regarded medical journal, lost all cred after people called out the fraudulent study by Andrew Wakefield shill who tried claiming the MMR vax caused colitis which caused autism and attempted to somehow prove this giving little neurodivergent boys unnecessary/pointless colonoscopies and even spinal taps to try and find prove which he didn't.

As a nice result of that though people like you are now aware that most singular sources are not reliable but what you fail to apply is the practicality of this point and are still stuck in https://media.tenor.com/LKwVVY6-5VwAAAAx/gotem.webp mode and are abusing that to reverse the burden of proof like I already said.

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>reverse the burden of proof

what do you mean by that? Like that experts dont normally carry a burden of proof or that only some parties should bear a burden of proof?

Also i didnt go to one source I went to several to show that your phobia of accupuncture is unfounded and basednin neocolonialist cisheteronormativity. I guess you know better than the large group of doctors that is the AMA(fair), butt why do you think you know more than Harvard or John Hopkins?(see thats two sources so not singular) :marseysike:

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I couldn't have said it better. And I didn't. Nice work.

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Impressive. Normally people with such severe developmental disabilities struggle to write much more than a sentence or two. You really have exceeded our expectations for the writing portion. Sadly the coherency of your writing, along with your abilities in the social skills and reading portions, are far behind your peers with similar disabilities.

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