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No true progressive :chadleftoidgenocide: :normielarpgenocide: to be found :marseydrama: when article that blames :marseylongpost2: them for the death :marseytombstone: of the American dream :muttscooter: hits r/neoliberal :marseysoylentgrin:

https://old.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1imhfct/how_progressives_froze_the_american_dream/ 

								

								

									
									

									
								

							

							

								
									
								
							

							

								
	

							

						

						
						

							

								
							

						

					

					
						

							
							
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The article opens with quotes from the nineteenth century. In the nineteenth century there was a literal open frontier. The quotes all imply that Americans moved a lot because they were so smart and American, but of course people moved here from all over the world because there was an open frontier.
When we christened the statue of liberty we chose a poem that proudly proclaimed that we would take the huddled teeming masses of the world. The frontier had closed up so recently that people perhaps were not even aware. Now we scream to build a wall to keep the masses out. This is because what it meant to be American originally depended on an undeveloped frontier. The culture in this way was downstream of the material, economic circumstances. Those circumstances changed a long time ago, and so what it means to be American will also change.
!commies these kinds of brain dead conversations happen constantly among people who have never for one second considered that historical materialism is perhaps mostly true.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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The other big difference is we didn't have welfare.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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The frontier is no longer physical. Americans without the intellect to explore the metaphysical frontier have been locked out of the American dream.
Meanwhile, high IQ gigachad foreigners like @Salvadore_Ally_Chud freely partake. This kills the white

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Okay but the article in the reddit thread is droning on about physically moving.
No society has ever been as mobile as the United States once was. No society has even come close. In the 19th century, the heyday of American mobility, roughly a third of all Americans changed addresses each year. European visitors were astonished, and more than slightly appalled. The American "is devoured with a passion for locomotion," the French writer Michel Chevalier observed in 1835; "he cannot stay in one place." Americans moved far more often, over longer distances, and to greater advantage than did people in the lands from which they had come. They understood this as the key to their national character, the thing that made their country distinctive. "We are a migratory people and we flourish best when we make an occasional change of base," one 19th-century newspaper explained. "We have cut loose from the old styles of human vegetation, the former method, of sticking like an oyster to one spot through numberless succeeding generations," wrote another.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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I was building on your point, I agree that the article is entirely off base

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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So we need to colonize mars so we have a place to send the immigrants is what you're saying.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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ive tried to explain this to people a few times but i mostly get blank stares. its wild how this obvious historical fact is so immaterial to our understanding of ourselves. we have no clue why we were what we were

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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